Help me replace my 28-105!

Cameron

I'm going to be purchasing a 30D and want to get a walk-around lens that is wider than my current 28-105 F/3.5-4.5 lens. The lenses on my short (but growing) list include:
Canon 17-85mm F/4-5.6 IS
Sigma 17-70mm
Sigma 18-50mm F/2.8
Canon 17-40mm F/4L
Canon 17-55mm F/2.8 IS (announced)
Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8 (announced)
Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 - no, it's no wider than my current lens, but likely sharper.
Canon 24-105 F/4L

I have used the 17-85mm on a 20D and love the range it covers. The Sigma 17-70 seems to compete more directly with the 17-85 and, from early reports, has good image quality. I've not used the next two on the list. The Canon 18-55mm looks like it will be excellent, but I'm having a hard time justifying a $1100+ lens with my current salary.. Perhaps my feelings will change if it turns out to be amazing. As for Tamron, everyone raves about the good copies of the Tamron 28-75 but it doesn't address the wide-range. Tamron has announced a 17-50 F/2.8 and if it is as good as the 28-75 that would be very appealing! Lastly, the 24-105L - no, it's not much wider either but I've used it on a 20D and man it is nice!

Thoughts? IS isn't a must-have for me in this range, so that's not a deciding factor. Has anyone here used the Sigma 17-70 yet? Any other lenses I should be looking at for a good walk-around? How would any of the above compare optically with my current 28-105?
:dunno

Cameron

DanielB

I'm going to be purchasing a 30D and want to get a walk-around lens that is wider than my current 28-105 F/3.5-4.5 lens. The lenses on my short (but growing) list include:
Canon 17-85mm F/4-5.6 IS
Sigma 17-70mm
Sigma 18-50mm F/2.8
Canon 17-40mm F/4L
Canon 18-55mm F/2.8 IS (announced)
Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8 (announced)
Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 - no, it's no wider than my current lens, but likely sharper.
Canon 24-105 F/4L

get a 10-22 then save up and replace the 28-105 like mine with a Canon 24-70 2.8

i'm pretty interested in the Sigma 17-70 too, it looks quite interesting.

The Canon 18-55mm looks like it will be excellent, but I'm having a hard time justifying a $1100+ lens with my current salary.. Perhaps my feelings will change if it turns out to be amazing.

think you meant the 17-55 IS

Red Bull

How wide do you want to go? I would suggest the 17-40 since that seems to be the length you like. I should be recieving mine tomorrow so i can let you know how it is.

Cameron

DanielB wrote:

get a 10-22 then save up and replace the 28-105 like mine with a Canon 24-70 2.8

i'm pretty interested in the Sigma 17-70 too, it looks quite interesting.

think you meant the 17-55 IS

I've thought about that.. the 10-22 is NICE! I actually played with it in a shop today. An option to consider - albeit a pricey one. :oogle
Yes, I meant the 17-55 IS - I fixed my post above, thanks.

Red Bull - Well, I would like to go 17-18 on the wide-end. I actually would prefer longer than 40 (or even 50-55). The 17-85 or 17-70 would be great ranges to go with a 70-200. However, I doubt I'd miss the 20mm between 50 and 70 THAT much..

limbik

I'm in the same boat and was thinking about that canon, but $1200 is a bit steep considering I don't really care about the IS either, it would have to be REALLY amazing... I'm looking for someting constant f2.8 in the 16 or 17mm to 35-55mm range approx. Looks like Tokina is going to throw a new one into the mix soon too (but I'm way too impatient for that):

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143808

Cameron

limbik wrote:

I'm in the same boat and was thinking about that canon, but $1200 is a bit steep considering I don't really care about the IS either, it would have to be REALLY amazing... I'm looking for someting constant f2.8 in the 16 or 17mm to 35-55mm range approx. Looks like Tokina is going to throw a new one into the mix soon too (but I'm way too impatient for that):

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143808

Yes, I saw that Tokina lens - it will likely come out long after the newly announced Tamron and Canon lenses. It'll be interesting to see how they all compare.

Red Bull

So I got the 17-40 tonight but I haven't had much time to play around with it. First impressions are WOW! Fantastic lens. Very well built and everything is nice and smooth. I will be able to take some photos tomorrow when it's daylight.

pchr

I'm also deciding on a walk-around lens at the moment, I have to admit I'm thinking of going for the Sigma 17-70, it seems like the closest digital equivalent to my canon 28-105 which I also am currently using and is not wide enough. Same boat exactly.

This review is pretty good:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/sigma_1770_2845/index.htm

The price is pretty good also and the quality is supposed to be good, I think then once I've got a walk-about I'm happy with I can then concentrate my mind and wallet on getting Canon L and possibly Sigma EX glass for when I'm able to carry more weight around.

To CSwinton - Any decisions made yet?

Mike Lane

IMHO, you're not going to find a better deal than the 17-40L. B&H has it for $629 if you do the psmar search. It's L glass, outstanding quality images and sharpness. Consider it your wide lens and maybe keep your 28-105 until you save the money to replace it with the 28-70L or 24-105L.

I give advice that I myself am going to be taking. I just now purchased the 17-40. I will then start saving for a 24-105L IS, 70-200 f/4 L, and 10-22. If things go well with the soon-to-be business, I'll end up replacing those with the 16-35L, the 28-70L and the 70-200 2.8 L IS (remembering that L glass holds its value very well - thanks Andy for the tip!). If not, I'll have 4 superb quality lenses (I already have a Bigma) that I can use for my hobby.

JCDoss

limbik wrote:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143808

OH MY GOD, A 50-135 F/2.8!!!

Cameron

pchr wrote:

To CSwinton - Any decisions made yet?

Nope, not yet. I just got my 30D yesterday and am having fun learning the camera at the moment.
I'm dragging my feet a bit on the decision so I can see the new Tamron 17-50 and Canon 17-55. I also read that review of the Sigma 17-70 and it looks very nice - I've tried to find one locally to play with but haven't found them in stock yet.
I'm also tempted by the 17-40L every time I see it... I just wonder if I'd miss the extra 10-15mm compared to the above lenses and those are already shorter than what I'm used to with the 28-105 on a FF camera.

alixmiles

if money were no object
Would you buy the 28-70L? I have a 70-200L 2.8 and a 35-350L now. I am ready to buy the 30d and another lense. I like the bokeh I get with the 70-200 and would like to see that duplicated in a shorter lense. I looked at the new 17-55L with IS and not sure which way to go now. I do know that someday I will upgrade to one of the 1d series cameras..and do not want to be stuck with the ef-s if it will not work on it.

Thanks
Barry