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Dual core better for my needs?

TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
edited April 27, 2006 in Digital Darkroom
Main needs are:

Photoshop CS and RAW file conversion for digital photos
DVD and CD ripping and burning
Web browsing

Would a dual core (say 2.8 GHz) do a better job than a slightly faster (say 3.2 GHz) single core with everything else being equal (1+ GB RAM, SATA HDs)?

Don't laugh, but the PC now is a P3 700 - and it's killing me. Time to upgrade after 5 years.
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,913 moderator
    edited April 27, 2006
    Possibly. But why not get a dual processor?
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    TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    Simple - $ is always a consideration. :D
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    USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    I just went from a 2.8 1Gig Dell with all the crap on it to a 2.8 dual core 2Gig.
    I love it for photoshop runs lots faster.
    But I also went with a system that has ONLY what I put on it (software wise).
    I would stay with the 2.8 it's cheaper 2 Gig is good for me not sure if 3 or 4Gig would help much.
    I have 2 monitors also ...now this is just great for ps.
    Look here.

    Fred
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    KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    1. AMD has shown core clock speed doesn't mean squat when it comes to actual performance. Intel tried to shove that down our throats and lost.

    2. Dual core will work best with some programs, PS being one of them.

    3. The other big thing is that when doing something CPU intensive like ripping DVDs, you can do something else using the second core and not have to worry about corruption issues or slow down. Anybody remember the days when you burned a CD and that was all you did unless you wanted to create a coaster?

    4. Multiple core CPUs are the future. It's the only way they know of now to boost performance without boosting clock cycles that in turn are generating too much heat. That being said, software will begin to be programmed to take adavantage of multiple core CPUs.
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    cmasoncmason Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    Well, I built an AMD Athalon 3000+, with 1GB memory, 2HDs. It runs like a charm, handles CS2 and conversions easily, no performance issues that I can see. Granted, I am not converting 300 pics at a time, but then I don't know how it would perform in that case. I do process 50 or so at a time, and it goes just fine, no issues that I can see.

    I worry about the advanced core and dual processors at this stage, as there are few applications that are designed to take advantage of it, and most of those are 64bit. This means you need the 64bit version of XP or the new Vista in order to take any advantage of it, meaning difficult to do.
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    TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    I'm looking at Dells but will immediately wipe it and load my own stuff if I get one. So really, it's a comparison of getting the complete box from them or going with individual components (motherboard bundle from mwave.com, others from newegg). Dell probably comes out on top for price, but the other way I can pick my components, just like my current PC. Dual core looks like it's definately the way to go, so thanks for the input guys. thumb.gif
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    bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited April 27, 2006
    TristanP wrote:
    I'm looking at Dells but will immediately wipe it and load my own stuff if I get one. So really, it's a comparison of getting the complete box from them or going with individual components (motherboard bundle from mwave.com, others from newegg). Dell probably comes out on top for price, but the other way I can pick my components, just like my current PC. Dual core looks like it's definately the way to go, so thanks for the input guys. thumb.gif

    good benchmark article on the core-duo vs other desktop processors.

    http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/core-duo/index.x?pg=1
    Pedal faster
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    cmasoncmason Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    bigwebguy wrote:
    good benchmark article on the core-duo vs other desktop processors.

    http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/core-duo/index.x?pg=1

    Core Duo T2600 is the new Intel machine, btw:

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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
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    Bob BellBob Bell Registered Users Posts: 598 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    I bleed intel blue. I have a dual core 3.0 gig with 2 gigs of ram and an x800 video card and it smokes my p4 2.6 gig with 2 gigs of ram and a 9600 card. Both machines have at least 250 gig of storage. The newer one has SATA.

    I use photo mechanic instead of bridge to review images and edit in PS through a link in PM. Its very quick and no real issues editing 16 bit tiffs in CMYK. My other machine would bog down and take a minute to open the images which are in the 200meg range.
    Bob
    Phoenix, AZ
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    Canon and Zeiss Lenses
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    bwgbwg Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,119 SmugMug Employee
    edited April 27, 2006
    just throwing this out here, not in response to anyone in particular but the intel core-duo is not the same as a dual core pentium. the core-duo is a completely new architecture that has not made it's way into mainstream desktops yet. It is MUCH better than the original intel dual core chips.

    if you look at the link i posted earlier you'll see that the core duo, which is a moblie chip for all intents and purposes, held it's own against all but the most powerful (and expensive) AMD desktop chips which are the current perfomance kings.

    so in short, dont confuse core-duo with dual core.

    carry on.
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    KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited April 27, 2006
    cmason wrote:
    Well, I built an AMD Athalon 3000+, with 1GB memory, 2HDs. It runs like a charm, handles CS2 and conversions easily, no performance issues that I can see. Granted, I am not converting 300 pics at a time, but then I don't know how it would perform in that case. I do process 50 or so at a time, and it goes just fine, no issues that I can see.

    I worry about the advanced core and dual processors at this stage, as there are few applications that are designed to take advantage of it, and most of those are 64bit. This means you need the 64bit version of XP or the new Vista in order to take any advantage of it, meaning difficult to do.

    Mostly 64 bit? Where did you get this info? I'm interested. Most hardware doesn't have drivers to run 64 bit.

    At this stage? It isn't a stage. The technology is here and humming along nicely.

    Yes, single core will perform very well and will continue to do so. However, multi-core processors are here now and will dominate in the future and software will accomodate to them. I'm running a single core also, but when I decide to rebuild, it will be a dual core.
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