grazie
Thank you both... and thank you all, for the votes-of course-and for the help getting the shot processed correctly. It is a testament to the value of participating at DGrin (lurkers, ahem, I'm calling you out), because this was certainly no prize winner when I first posted the shot for critique.
It is hard to express my pride in written word without gushing, so I will just say: I am very proud and honored to be selected from amongst many excellent photographs.
And now, once again, I must ask for some assistance. (I'd post in a more appropriate place, but I'd feel a bit braggadocious in doing so.) I would like to have this printed as large as possible, for framing and display. The picture is roughly 2600x1700 pixels. According to my calculations, with some border extension this will print nicely at 14"x11" (it does not proportion exactly, it is wider than tall, but I need to get a frame, so...). These dimensions will give me a 200 pi/inch resolution. I will resample it, but this would be my starting point.
So, here are my myriad questions:
1)Are my calcs correct?
2)Should I utilize 'bicubic' or 'bicubic sharper' (or 'bicubic smoother') when I resample?
3)Is there something else I can do to improve the print quality besides resampling (I've already unsharp-masked as far as is appropriate)?
4)Would it be possible to have this look right in a 20"x16" print? Should I consider-and, if so, where would I find-a more appropriately proportioned frame size?
(I read an article relevant to this at Luminous Landscape, but something has changed with the site and I can no longer locate the article.)
Keep in mind, my budget is $40 .
Thanks again.
Best Regards,
Rich
We are the music-makers; and we are the dreamers of dreams.
... come along.
Thanks all... and Ultravox I know I had your vote-word up to my photo's biggest fan.
So here's a little story that I oughta tell....
The night I took the shot I was at JoJo's with a lady friend. Because of this, I decided to show off a bit and said, "hey, Thad, you don't mind any pictures do you?" (I had already asked this on two previous occassions, but it is my policy to ask...) Standing at the bar and about to order a drink (coffee I think), he replied with a nod, 'yes.' A second later, now distracted from his drink ordering and thoroughly helping me impress my lady friend he shouted, "but I want 50% royalties." Of course, I obliged with the remark, "no problem, 50% of zero is all yours."
So guess where I was tonight? Early to JoJo's. And, sitting at the bar, handing my man a smoke-apparently breaking a quitting streak by the reaction of the fine looking lady at the end of bar-I said, "Thad, I think I owe you twenty bucks." He looked a bit befuddled, so I recounted our two to three weeks prior exchange quickly and said, I won a little competition and was awarded a $40 prize.
His reply? "Merry Christmas." Indeed. His performance was stellar as usual.
I wish you all lived in DC. We'd have a rockin' good time, and it's always nice to know good folks like the people at DGrin. And seriously, though I thought it always a bit fake when I read other's write this after past competitions, congratulations to all the participants. As per the rules, I couldn't vote for my own shot... but even if I could, I would have had a tremendously hard time pulling the trigger.
peace...love...music,
LeDude
p.s. Daniel, this is the kind of show I'm talking about bringing you to when you visit. I think your folks (Ma and Grandpa?) would enjoy it too. And, btw, some hella mature comments in the smugmug support thread... you know what I'm talkin' 'bout.
We are the music-makers; and we are the dreamers of dreams.
... come along.
The night I took the shot I was at JoJo's with a lady friend. Because of this, I decided to show off a bit and said, "hey, Thad, you don't mind any pictures do you?" (I had already asked this on two previous occassions, but it is my policy to ask...) Standing at the bar and about to order a drink (coffee I think), he replied with a nod, 'yes.' A second later, now distracted from his drink ordering and thoroughly helping me impress my lady friend he shouted, "but I want 50% royalties." Of course, I obliged with the remark, "no problem, 50% of zero is all yours."
So guess where I was tonight? Early to JoJo's. And, sitting at the bar, handing my man a smoke-apparently breaking a quitting streak by the reaction of the fine looking lady at the end of bar-I said, "Thad, I think I owe you twenty bucks." He looked a bit befuddled, so I recounted our two to three weeks prior exchange quickly and said, I won a little competition and was awarded a $40 prize.
His reply? "Merry Christmas." Indeed. His performance was stellar as usual.
And now, your great story puts the shot into context and makes me even more glad I voted for your shot!
I knew, of course, that trees and plants had roots, stems, bark, branches and foliage that reached up toward the light. But I was coming to realize that the real magician was light itself.
Edward Steichen
Congratulations!! I'm so glad you toned the blue border down! :-)
Nicola
Nicola
Iconic Creative http://iconiccreative.smugmug.com "To be creative means the ability to remain thirsty and to want more, never be content...you keep on seeing, discovering and understanding the joy of creativity"
Raghu Rai
So, here are my myriad questions:
1)Are my calcs correct?
2)Should I utilize 'bicubic' or 'bicubic sharper' (or 'bicubic smoother') when I resample?
3)Is there something else I can do to improve the print quality besides resampling (I've already unsharp-masked as far as is appropriate)?
4)Would it be possible to have this look right in a 20"x16" print? Should I consider-and, if so, where would I find-a more appropriately proportioned frame size?
1. Your DPI calculation should be okay.
2. If you're printing through smugmug don't resample! The lab will do a much nicer job at doing that. Keep in mind that PS's bicubic is way outdated - there's a whole lot of algorithms - check out Qimage if you really want to upsample images on your PC.
3. Be careful with sharpening! All the sharpened edges are going to be upsampled and could become more visible than they're on the monitor (perhaps you don't see anything wrong with it on the screen, but afterwards on the print). Don't know for sure, because I haven't done any big prints yet and most of the time I don't sharpen at all.
4. Read smugmug's help page on print quality (examples of what's possible with DPI below 200)
Thanks all... and what the heck, I'm gonna bask in this a bit cause its all rollin together mighty quick right now... since winning this, my first, photo challenge I've gotten my first paying gig, my first sale on smugmug...tonight my dj friend is playing a gig (for those in DC it's at Baci Vini in Adams Morgan), the first LeDude Projects booked show... sheesh, two weeks! I only hope I can keep it rolling, keep building.
yours truly,
Rich
We are the music-makers; and we are the dreamers of dreams.
... come along.
Thanks all... and what the heck, I'm gonna bask in this a bit cause its all rollin together mighty quick right now... since winning this, my first, photo challenge I've gotten my first paying gig, my first sale on smugmug...tonight my dj friend is playing a gig (for those in DC it's at Baci Vini in Adams Morgan), the first LeDude Projects booked show... sheesh, two weeks! I only hope I can keep it rolling, keep building.
yours truly,
Rich
Way to go Rich! You've got so much talent... nice to see it's paying off!
Denise
Denise _________________________________ Come talk with me of days gone by, let's linger there awhile. Some memories will make us cry, but more will bring a smile.
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Cheers,
Your picture was one of my favorites!
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
Thank you both... and thank you all, for the votes-of course-and for the help getting the shot processed correctly. It is a testament to the value of participating at DGrin (lurkers, ahem, I'm calling you out), because this was certainly no prize winner when I first posted the shot for critique.
It is hard to express my pride in written word without gushing, so I will just say: I am very proud and honored to be selected from amongst many excellent photographs.
And now, once again, I must ask for some assistance. (I'd post in a more appropriate place, but I'd feel a bit braggadocious in doing so.) I would like to have this printed as large as possible, for framing and display. The picture is roughly 2600x1700 pixels. According to my calculations, with some border extension this will print nicely at 14"x11" (it does not proportion exactly, it is wider than tall, but I need to get a frame, so...). These dimensions will give me a 200 pi/inch resolution. I will resample it, but this would be my starting point.
So, here are my myriad questions:
1)Are my calcs correct?
2)Should I utilize 'bicubic' or 'bicubic sharper' (or 'bicubic smoother') when I resample?
3)Is there something else I can do to improve the print quality besides resampling (I've already unsharp-masked as far as is appropriate)?
4)Would it be possible to have this look right in a 20"x16" print? Should I consider-and, if so, where would I find-a more appropriately proportioned frame size?
(I read an article relevant to this at Luminous Landscape, but something has changed with the site and I can no longer locate the article.)
Keep in mind, my budget is $40
Thanks again.
Best Regards,
Rich
... come along.
LeDude my friend !!!
I saw when I voted that you were ahead.
(I depart tomorrow morning to Ireland... Oh. I hope to shoot many and nice pictures from this beautiful country)
congrats dude.
Kevin
www.rightangleimages.com
ginger
smugmug: www.StandOutphoto.smugmug.com
[SIZE=-1]It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. - John Lennon.[/SIZE]
So here's a little story that I oughta tell....
The night I took the shot I was at JoJo's with a lady friend. Because of this, I decided to show off a bit and said, "hey, Thad, you don't mind any pictures do you?" (I had already asked this on two previous occassions, but it is my policy to ask...
So guess where I was tonight? Early to JoJo's. And, sitting at the bar, handing my man a smoke-apparently breaking a quitting streak by the reaction of the fine looking lady at the end of bar-I said, "Thad, I think I owe you twenty bucks." He looked a bit befuddled, so I recounted our two to three weeks prior exchange quickly and said, I won a little competition and was awarded a $40 prize.
His reply? "Merry Christmas." Indeed. His performance was stellar as usual.
I wish you all lived in DC. We'd have a rockin' good time, and it's always nice to know good folks like the people at DGrin. And seriously, though I thought it always a bit fake when I read other's write this after past competitions, congratulations to all the participants. As per the rules, I couldn't vote for my own shot... but even if I could, I would have had a tremendously hard time pulling the trigger.
peace...love...music,
LeDude
p.s. Daniel, this is the kind of show I'm talking about bringing you to when you visit. I think your folks (Ma and Grandpa?) would enjoy it too. And, btw, some hella mature comments in the smugmug support thread... you know what I'm talkin' 'bout.
... come along.
I love good music and good photos
Looking forward for more .
[SIZE=-1]It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. - John Lennon.[/SIZE]
And now, your great story puts the shot into context and makes me even more glad I voted for your shot!
Great work!
I knew, of course, that trees and plants had roots, stems, bark, branches and foliage that reached up toward the light. But I was coming to realize that the real magician was light itself.
Edward Steichen
Nicola
Iconic Creative
http://iconiccreative.smugmug.com
"To be creative means the ability to remain thirsty and to want more, never be content...you keep on seeing, discovering and understanding the joy of creativity"
Raghu Rai
another job well done at DGrin
http://avatars.imvu.com/sayntbrigidii
Tessa HD Campbell
www.tessa-hd.smugmug.com
www.printandportfolio.com
This summer's wilderness photography project: www.tessa-hd.smugmug.com/gallery/3172341
Mate!! Great work and congratulations.
David Clifford
2. If you're printing through smugmug don't resample! The lab will do a much nicer job at doing that. Keep in mind that PS's bicubic is way outdated - there's a whole lot of algorithms - check out Qimage if you really want to upsample images on your PC.
3. Be careful with sharpening! All the sharpened edges are going to be upsampled and could become more visible than they're on the monitor (perhaps you don't see anything wrong with it on the screen, but afterwards on the print). Don't know for sure, because I haven't done any big prints yet and most of the time I don't sharpen at all.
4. Read smugmug's help page on print quality (examples of what's possible with DPI below 200)
Hope this helps,
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
Cheers,
Erich
My respects.
www.ivarborst.nl & smugmug
yours truly,
Rich
... come along.
Way to go Rich! You've got so much talent... nice to see it's paying off!
Denise
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