Focusing problems, too soft.

DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
edited June 18, 2006 in Cameras
My camera seems to have a bad focus, it doesn't focus sharply, so the images are always over soft and slightly blurred. What should I do?
Pentax K20D 14.6mp Body : Pentax *ist D 6.1mp Body : Pentax ZX10 Body : 180mm Sigma Macro EX lens : 18-55mm Pentax SMC DA Lens : 28-200mm Sigma Lens : 50-500mm Sigma APO DG EX lens : Pentax AF-500FTZ flash : Sigma EX 2x Teleconverter.

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  • DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2006
    My camera seems to have a bad focus, it doesn't focus sharply, so the images are always over soft and slightly blurred. What should I do?

    take 2 sample images...take one with autofocus, then switch it to manual and take one. use a tripod and a cable release. then come back here with the images and we'll go from therethumb.gif
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2006
    Post one of your problem images and the EXIF, that'll be a good start.
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  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2006
    DanielB wrote:
    take 2 sample images...take one with autofocus, then switch it to manual and take one. use a tripod and a cable release. then come back here with the images and we'll go from therethumb.gif

    I know how to set my eyepiece...


    I can't post much of an example, it's generally seen in comparison of images at 8x12 and higher.
    Pentax K20D 14.6mp Body : Pentax *ist D 6.1mp Body : Pentax ZX10 Body : 180mm Sigma Macro EX lens : 18-55mm Pentax SMC DA Lens : 28-200mm Sigma Lens : 50-500mm Sigma APO DG EX lens : Pentax AF-500FTZ flash : Sigma EX 2x Teleconverter.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2006
    I know how to set my eyepiece...


    I can't post much of an example, it's generally seen in comparison of images at 8x12 and higher.
    No problem. If you have a smugmug account, or similar, save the biggest size file they'll permit. Then post a link.
    Sid.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    No problem. If you have a smugmug account, or similar, save the biggest size file they'll permit. Then post a link.


    or post a 100% crop at 400x600 or some such thing...we don't need to see the whole image, just enough to see the problem.
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  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2006
    Here's a photo.

    imgp58670to.jpg

    See how blurry that is?
    Pentax K20D 14.6mp Body : Pentax *ist D 6.1mp Body : Pentax ZX10 Body : 180mm Sigma Macro EX lens : 18-55mm Pentax SMC DA Lens : 28-200mm Sigma Lens : 50-500mm Sigma APO DG EX lens : Pentax AF-500FTZ flash : Sigma EX 2x Teleconverter.
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,077 moderator
    edited May 25, 2006
    Here's a photo.

    imgp58670to.jpg

    See how blurry that is?

    Yep, that's pretty bad. For being shot at 1/320 sec and
    f 7.10, it should be better.

    I notice that the focal length is 31mm, so was this the Pentax 18-55 zoom or the Sigma 28-200 zoom?

    Does the problem occur with any lens? I would be especially concerned if it happens with the Sigma 180mm macro.

    ziggy53
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  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2006
    ziggy53 wrote:
    Yep, that's pretty bad. For being shot at 1/320 sec and
    f 7.10, it should be better.

    I notice that the focal length is 31mm, so was this the Pentax 18-55 zoom or the Sigma 28-200 zoom?

    Does the problem occur with any lens? I would be especially concerned if it happens with the Sigma 180mm macro.

    ziggy53
    The Sigma. I haven't really used the Sigma 28-200 on this camera much, I don't really like the lens. The Macro comes up with slightly blurred edges lately, nothing as bad as the wide angle, but it's still there.
    Pentax K20D 14.6mp Body : Pentax *ist D 6.1mp Body : Pentax ZX10 Body : 180mm Sigma Macro EX lens : 18-55mm Pentax SMC DA Lens : 28-200mm Sigma Lens : 50-500mm Sigma APO DG EX lens : Pentax AF-500FTZ flash : Sigma EX 2x Teleconverter.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2006
    Here's a photo.

    See how blurry that is?
    That's truly awful. I don't see a single thing that's in focus.

    Is Ziggy correct about the EXIF info?

    31mm, 1/320, f7.10?

    Was this on autofocus?
    Sid.
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  • JimMJimM Registered Users Posts: 1,389 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2006
    Have you gotten any sharp shots from it?
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  • DRT-MaverickDRT-Maverick Registered Users Posts: 476 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2006
    JimM wrote:
    Have you gotten any sharp shots from it?

    Yes, it just started happening after my last trip. I didn't drop the camera or anything.
    Pentax K20D 14.6mp Body : Pentax *ist D 6.1mp Body : Pentax ZX10 Body : 180mm Sigma Macro EX lens : 18-55mm Pentax SMC DA Lens : 28-200mm Sigma Lens : 50-500mm Sigma APO DG EX lens : Pentax AF-500FTZ flash : Sigma EX 2x Teleconverter.
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,077 moderator
    edited May 26, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    ...

    Is Ziggy correct about the EXIF info?

    31mm, 1/320, f7.10?

    ...

    You dare to doubt the amazing ziggy? Why, I can't remember the last time I was wrong. 'Course, I can't remember if I put on clean underware. (Checking) Whew! rolleyes1.gif

    If you want to check for yourself (no, not your underware), just right-mouse-click on the image, save it onto your HD and check it with your favorite method. (Unless you got one o' them Mac thingys, then you're on your own.) Mav left the EXIF in the file.

    Thanks,

    ziggy53
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2006
    ziggy53 wrote:
    You dare to doubt the amazing ziggy? Why, I can't remember the last time I was wrong. 'Course, I can't remember if I put on clean underware. (Checking) Whew! rolleyes1.gif

    If you want to check for yourself (no, not your underware), just right-mouse-click on the image, save it onto your HD and check it with your favorite method. (Unless you got one o' them Mac thingys, then you're on your own.) Mav left the EXIF in the file.

    Thanks,

    ziggy53
    Didn't mean to insult you, old boy! Thanks, I didn't know how to do that. thumb.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,077 moderator
    edited May 26, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    Didn't mean to insult you, old boy! Thanks, I didn't know how to do that. thumb.gif

    What insult?rolleyes1.gif I told you I forget things easily. If I could only remember where I stashed my millions?
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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,077 moderator
    edited May 26, 2006
    Yes, it just started happening after my last trip. I didn't drop the camera or anything.

    Maverick,

    Sorry, I didn't mean to leave you. Let's start with the basics.

    First, clean the contacts that electrically connect the lens to the camera, Since other lenses seem to work OK, concentrate mostly on the lens. Use a plain old pink pencil eraser and gently work against the contacts until they are shiny.

    With the lens back on the camera in auto focus, choose something near and something far and see if you can get the lens to try to focus, both in the viewfinder and listen with your ears. See anything wierd or hear anything wierd?

    If yes, you have a bad lens that needs to be returned. Case closed.
    If not, then it's trying to work, it just can't for some reason.

    Check the switch from auto to manual. Purposely move the switch to manual and de-focus. Move the switch back to auto and see how quickly it seeks. Fast or slow?

    If slow, you have a bad lens that needs to be returned. Case closed.
    If fast, it's trying to work, so continue.

    Choose something very distant, at least a half-mile away. A radio or TV broadcasting tower works pretty well. Auto focus and take a shot. Switch to manual focus and try to better the shot. Be patient and do it properly. Take several series at both extremes of the zoom and both wide open and stopped down to at least f8.

    Check the results on a computer monitor at 100%. Can you see a difference between manual and auto?

    If yes, then the lens is not focussing properly and needs to be returned/repaired/replaced. Case closed.
    If no, then the lens will never be acceptable.

    One last thing to check.

    Shine a small LED flashlight into both ends and look through the lens. Work the zoom and you may see something at one extreme or another.

    If the lens looks cloudy at all, it has internal contamination. You will not find the lens to be acceptable until it is returned/repaired/replaced.

    Take the above with a little tongue-in-cheek, but that is pretty much the process I would go through to diagnose a soft focus problem.

    Good luck,

    ziggy53
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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,077 moderator
    edited June 18, 2006
    So ... what happened? ne_nau.gif

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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 18, 2006
    Good bump, I'm curious too.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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