With and without flash

Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
edited June 8, 2006 in Accessories
Without flash
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 3, 2006
    With bounced flash.
    No treatment at all.
    From to here.
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited June 3, 2006
    I like the one without flash better. The
    shaddows look much more natural and
    you have more depth in the textures
    of the skin and the clothing. Also the
    shirt of the right one looks a bit burnt?!

    Oh, did I mention #1 is a great shot? ;)
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    ― Edward Weston
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Thank you for the comment.
    I'm sure you believe me when I tell that the girls are nicier in the 1.st but I like the 2.ed shot better because of flash ... :):
    I'm using it often and try to learn reading and pratizing...
    I have 2 different I'll send in a few moments ...
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    one
    photo
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    and the other without flash.
    We can see that a correct use of this equipment is a plus value for the pictures ... thumb.gif
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  • SeefutlungSeefutlung Registered Users Posts: 2,781 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    In both cases your fill in flash improved the photos without an obivious "flash" look. Good job. I feel that my flash techniques are horrible ... so I don't use flash much ... as I don't use flash much I never improve. It's a jungle out there Antonio.
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited June 4, 2006
    Seefutlung wrote:
    In both cases your fill in flash improved the photos without an obivious "flash" look. Good job. I feel that my flash techniques are horrible ... so I don't use flash much ... as I don't use flash much I never improve. It's a jungle out there Antonio.

    I too am crap with a flash-

    I've been trying out the lightsphere and it seems to be helping me quite a bit with outdoor fillin flash and inside pics-

    73249072-L.jpg

    maybe not the best portrait but this was indoors at night with regular room light and a lightsphere-

    72674850-L.jpg

    outdoor fillin with lightsphere-

    george
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Seefutlung wrote:
    In both cases your fill in flash improved the photos without an obivious "flash" look. Good job. I feel that my flash techniques are horrible ... so I don't use flash much ... as I don't use flash much I never improve. It's a jungle out there Antonio.
    Gary
    I must desagree with you.
    The 2.ed shot was without flash. It is obvious the 1.st is better.
    Not that better. I'll improve. You'll see. :D


    Have you seen this fantastic pic of mines ? :):
    http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/938400/1/71808225
    Look at this:
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    and now at this:
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    see a hole difference ?
    Don't look at the other aspects. Look only of what the flash did.
    It's amazing !! thumb.gifthumbthumb.gifthumbthumb.gif
    Let me send you a link to read which has been given here:
    http://www.planetneil.com/faq/flash-techniques.html
    look at this work.
    from the tread
    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=33703
    Change to flash and fight in the jungle of light rolleyes1.gif
    thumb.gif
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    george.
    I had already seen you pictures.
    I'm buying no Lightshere or whatever. As a matter of fact it is not available in Portugal ...
    I must practice. And so you let me tell you...:):
    I only use a Soften "condom" and bounce the flash not using E-TTL of course.
    thumb.gif
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  • SeefutlungSeefutlung Registered Users Posts: 2,781 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    I love window/directional lighting and this is another point where natural lighting is much much better than artificial lighting.

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    My snaps can be found here:
    Unsharp at any Speed
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Seefutlung wrote:
    I love window/directional lighting and this is another point where natural lighting is much much better than artificial lighting.

    46834667-L.jpg
    rolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gifThat's not an argument
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Seefutlung wrote:
    I love window/directional lighting and this is another point where natural lighting is much much better than artificial lighting.

    46834667-L.jpg
    I was thinking ...
    So you find the photo without flash has more potencial than the other one, with flash ?
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    How about the final result ?
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited June 4, 2006
    antonio-

    I am impressed with your work with the flash-

    george
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    gefillmore wrote:
    antonio-

    I am impressed with your work with the flash-

    george
    Come on ... Don't tease me ...
    :D:D:D:D
    Stil much much to learn ...
    Look at this lausy result ... ne_nau.gif
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited June 4, 2006
    well, antonio, no expert I-

    but definitely much much better than I could do-

    I do kid around quite a bit but I am not teasing here-

    my jokes don't translate very well, at least nationally and culturally (they don't translate here very well at times, either)-

    keep practicing and please keep posting; always enjoy looking at your photos-

    best
    george
  • SeefutlungSeefutlung Registered Users Posts: 2,781 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Antonio Correia wrote:
    How about the final result ?

    As a portrait this is very good. But I miss the shadows and the surrounding environment of the original. A skilled photographer that can control shadows impresses the heck of of me. Like an artist painting with light ... but you nearly eliminated the shadows of the original.
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    gefillmore wrote:
    well, antonio, no expert I-

    but definitely much much better than I could do-

    I do kid around quite a bit but I am not teasing here-

    my jokes don't translate very well, at least nationally and culturally (they don't translate here very well at times, either)-

    keep practicing and please keep posting; always enjoy looking at your photos-

    best
    george

    George.
    If you were kiding I do not mind AT ALL.
    It's nice to laught and profit life.
    Thank you for the compliment.
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Seefutlung wrote:
    As a portrait this is very good. But I miss the shadows and the surrounding environment of the original. A skilled photographer that can control shadows impresses the heck of of me. Like an artist painting with light ... but you nearly eliminated the shadows of the original.
    Gonna try. (is this the american way to say I am going to try ?:):)
    Thank you for the comment in the gallery you just post.
    thumb.gif
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    again. with flash
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    without flash
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Final result from the flashed one
    http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/938400/1/73355632
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  • silicasilica Registered Users Posts: 89 Big grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    Antonio Correia wrote:
    Gonna try. (is this the american way to say I am going to try ?

    "If at first you don't succeed, try, try, and try again. Then give up. There's no use being a damned fool about it." -W. C. Fields
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    silica wrote:
    "If at first you don't succeed, try, try, and try again. Then give up. There's no use being a damned fool about it." -W. C. Fields
    Is it really so ? ne_nau.gif
    Or that depends on what you are trying to pursuit ? ...
    the act of pursuing in an effort to overtake or capture; "the culprit started to run and the cop took off in pursuit"
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  • sara505sara505 Registered Users Posts: 1,684 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2006
    what's a lightsphere?
    Hi, I struggle with my flash too. 10-D/430 EX. It seems to have a mind of its own. I'm doing lots of experimenting, trying P, AV, TV, over exposed, normal, extra flash, etc. Mostly my flash shots seem a bit underexposed. Especially with ambient light. Sometimes the exposure is perfect, other times way off, and I can't figure out how to be in charge. How much does difference does a diffuser make?


    gefillmore wrote:
    I too am crap with a flash-

    I've been trying out the lightsphere and it seems to be helping me quite a bit with outdoor fillin flash and inside pics-

    73249072-L.jpg

    maybe not the best portrait but this was indoors at night with regular room light and a lightsphere-

    72674850-L.jpg

    outdoor fillin with lightsphere-

    george
    Sara

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  • PezpixPezpix Registered Users Posts: 391 Major grins
    edited June 7, 2006
    Random thought for you Antonio, but I thought I'd see what you think...

    Ever thought of bracketing two shots, one with and one without flash and then using HDR merging to see how the results end up?
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Pezpix wrote:
    Random thought for you Antonio, but I thought I'd see what you think... ...
    ne_nau.gif ??
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