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Ch 66: Patch of Depression

LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
edited June 10, 2006 in The Dgrin Challenges
Patch of Depression (or, The Day I Learned To Stop Worrying And Started To Dance)
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    SpeshulEdSpeshulEd Registered Users Posts: 341 Major grins
    edited June 4, 2006
    the grain on this picture is perfect. I love it. Excellent crop as well.
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    DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    LeDude wrote:
    Patch of Depression (or, The Day I Learned To Stop Worrying And Started To Dance)
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    is this the one you were talkin about man? if so i'm diggin' itthumb.gif
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    Thanks Ed & Dan (and yes, Dan, it is).

    I've got to clean up the upper-right hand corner. I still need to experiment with the coloring, but this is growing on me (I was very unsure to start).

    My biggest concern is thematic. I'm going music, obviously, but I'm having a tough time getting creative (other than with my title). Interpretation has been fairly liberal so far and I wonder if the judges will be so liberal.

    "a part of something marked out from the rest by a particular characteristic; a small area or amount of something"

    One depressed key among many is the idea here, but I'm so undecided as to whether I'm really getting it. The coloring question I've got running through my mind is how to empasize the depressed key. Should I go hard and use selective coloring (how, it's a white key? emboss effect helps bring it out, but is w-w-WAY too strong an effect). Maybe I just let it go on subtle. I'm rambling...

    -LeDude
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    SpeshulEd wrote:
    Excellent crop as well.
    Just wanted to say this makes me very proud, b/c I've been working on improving my camera-in-hand composition... and i didn't crop this a bit :):.

    [edit: er... I am mistaken, just a sliver off the bottom: 68 pixels worth]
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    sayntbrigidsayntbrigid Registered Users Posts: 381 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    I love the colors and the theme, but I'm not sure I understand why the grain texture? ........its prolly just a personal preferance, but I would imagine it is awesome as a nice clear crisp shot......or some blur around the edges. I'm sure I am all washed up, but I just have a feeling the grain is detracting in this case........must just be me ...... headscratch.gif

    .......and I wouldnt even say that if I didnt really love the photo :D
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    twinbnjtwinbnj Registered Users Posts: 271 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    great shot - the grain works well with the image.
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    DanielBDanielB Registered Users Posts: 2,362 Major grins
    edited June 5, 2006
    sayntbrigid wrote:
    I love the colors and the theme, but I'm not sure I understand why the grain texture? ........its prolly just a personal preferance, but I would imagine it is awesome as a nice clear crisp shot......or some blur around the edges. I'm sure I am all washed up, but I just have a feeling the grain is detracting in this case........must just be me ...... headscratch.gif

    .......and I wouldnt even say that if I didnt really love the photo :D

    i think grain was inevitable because it was a lowlight indoor shot at 1.8 with a 1/125 shutterspeed which tells me he probably had his ISO bumped up to at least 800ne_nau.gif , but like i and many others have said, i think the grain works well with the image here for the feel he wants... i agree, it would be a neat shot if it was nice and crisp with 0 grain. but i don't think it would have as much character as it does now.
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 6, 2006
    on grain
    conflicting views on grain have given me reason to consider the following:

    grain on the reflection of the white keys into the black: huge plus
    grain on the hand: minor plus
    grain on the silver panel above the keys: minus
    grain from the light in the upper-right hand corner: huge minus

    I'll make the appropriate granular adjustments. :):

    other issues?
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    MarkSBMarkSB Registered Users Posts: 96 Big grins
    edited June 6, 2006
    Le Dude, I like your work, but how does this fit the theme?

    On the overall shot, the odd angle of the hand is a minus.
    (Normally, in photography, hands are curved at the wrist.)
    Also, the angles seem to detract.
    The grain is apparently detracting.
    Is this shot done sharp and non-grainy? Maybe we should see it, if it is.

    Finally: how does it fit the theme?
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Patch of Sound in D
    I've made some adjustments... and the title change should help, though it is interpretive and while I think it matches the challenge description I could see some legitmate argument to the contrary.


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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Attempt #3
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    MarkSB wrote:
    Le Dude, I like your work, but how does this fit the theme?

    On the overall shot, the odd angle of the hand is a minus.
    (Normally, in photography, hands are curved at the wrist.)
    Also, the angles seem to detract.
    The grain is apparently detracting.
    Is this shot done sharp and non-grainy? Maybe we should see it, if it is.

    Finally: how does it fit the theme?

    Thanks Mark for the comments. I don't know about the hand angle... he was playing, and that's how he plays ne_nau.gif.
    Angles... do you mean the angles created by the tilt/keys/lines of the back of the keyboard? Would this be corrected by simply straightening the shot, or are the lines of the piano itself a problem?
    Grain: check. Attempt #3 has a far subtler grain effect imposed, better? Seems less dramatic to me, but maybe that's best.

    -LeDude
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    SpeshulEdSpeshulEd Registered Users Posts: 341 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    I still like the grain, but what do I know? I like all three.
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    Head in the CloudsHead in the Clouds Registered Users Posts: 376 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Number two does it for me. A nice balance between the three shots in terms of grain. Number three is a bit destracting in the right part of the keys - looks a bit redish? .... #2 is my pick of the bunch. I really like the 'arty-ness' of it. (and that's a technical term!) .....
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    LCDLCD Registered Users Posts: 494 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Definately B&W, but I miss some of the grain (except in the top right) of the first one. Keep in mind that I know nothing!

    I love the shot. It makes me want to reach up and play with you. - uh, that does't sound quite like the way I meant :uhoh

    I don't think there is a theme issue. You've come up with a creative angle.

    Oh, speaking of angles, although the angle of the wrist not the usual bend, I think the angle of the shot works well.

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    CharbuCharbu Registered Users Posts: 78 Big grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    #2 does it for me. Maybe a clean up on the color distortion on the keys would make it cleaner. I like the slight glow on the hand and keys. The grain around the focal point of the hand on the keys says it for me.
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    Charbu wrote:
    The grain around the focal point of the hand on the keys says it for me.
    Does this mean you think I should adjust the second attempt? headscratch.gif
    I love the shot. It makes me want to reach up and play with you. - uh, that does't sound quite like the way I meant :uhoh

    LCD, thx... and, I know what you're saying :D (btw, that's Thomas of Second Movement on the keys)

    Number three is a bit destracting in the right part of the keys - looks a bit redish? .... #2 is my pick of the bunch.

    HitC, grazie... I agree on the red deal, #3 was my bid at clarity-rather than grain-but I think the color is poor (you should see the original! colors: :uhoh)


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    Speshul, gracias... I think one of your picks will be my entry :D
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    After great consideration, I realized my original concept-one utilizing grain-was being muddled by my attempts to mitigate the grain. I still like it, but I think this effort is more polished and better suited for the challenge:


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    I hope you all enjoy the shot; and, thank you once again for all the help, critique and encouragement.

    peace... love... music...
    LeDude
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    saurorasaurora Registered Users Posts: 4,320 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    They are all great!!! Realllllly tough decision!!!! Good Luck! thumb.gif
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    sayntbrigidsayntbrigid Registered Users Posts: 381 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    Its a Wonderful Photo LaDude....Good Luck to ya clap.gifclapclap.gif
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