Lense Help (aka) here goes the great debate

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,703 moderator
    edited June 8, 2006
    It'll do just fine.
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  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    Jeffro wrote:
    24 replies later (not counting this one)...this is still a very good choice. :D

    rolleyes1.gifI tend to agree. All the lenses have excellent reputations. I have used both the f2.8 IS and f4 70-200 and know their reputations are well-earned, so can only assume the 17-40 is as well. I personally would like to have both a WA/UWA and a telephoto for landscapes--what if you want to isolate that really cool rock formation or interensting tree? A telephoto would be great, so I don't subscribe to the earlier assertion that the 70-200 "sucks rocks" for the use, it depends on what you want to do with it.

    However, I still think the f2.8 IS is overkill if the lens will be only/mainly used for daylight shooting. That's a whole lot of extra money for low light capability if it isn't really needed. It's up to the OP to decide what type ofshooting will be done & if the extra capability is needed.

    I'll use a recent trip I just did as an example. I was up in the San Fancisco area for some dance shows. The first day I was on my own while the rest of our group was busy with workshops, so I headed out to the coast & shot landscapes. I did in fact use the 70-200/2.8 IS I had with me, mostly with IS off and at f8-f16. That day the extra cpaability was technically a waste & the f4 model would have served just as well. The rest of the trip I was in an auditiorium & was shooting shows with IS at f2.8-f5.6, so the extra capability was certainly needed. Oh ,and using the changeable lens ability of the SLR, I swapped between the 24-70 and 70-200 to give me my full 24-200mm range available.
  • AtruckerAtrucker Registered Users Posts: 30 Big grins
    edited June 8, 2006
    My favorite 1 lens solution for a Crop Canon is the 17-85IS. It's the best bang out there for the bucks.
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  • k2c1959k2c1959 Registered Users Posts: 123 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    ok guys i really appreciate all the help and suggestions given to me on this thread. after some consideration and help from here and local camera shops, this is what i have decided for my 12 day trip adventure, you are correct in the fact that there is no such thing as a one lense deal on this excursion, so i have bought the canon 17-40 f4L, 70-200 f4L, a battery grip, 2-4 gb cf extemeIII cards, a tripod,lense hoods, filters/polarizers, i know thats not it but all i can think of at the moment. and i am still contemplating the 24-70 f2.8L, after all i still have a week left before i leave on my excursion. THANKS AGAIN, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. it has been enlightening to say the least of very expensive. rolleyes1.gif , but again toys are toys.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    k2c1959 wrote:
    ok guys i really appreciate all the help and suggestions given to me on this thread. after some consideration and help from here and local camera shops, this is what i have decided for my 12 day trip adventure, you are correct in the fact that there is no such thing as a one lense deal on this excursion, so i have bought the canon 17-40 f4L, 70-200 f4L, a battery grip, 2-4 gb cf extemeIII cards, a tripod,lense hoods, filters/polarizers, i know thats not it but all i can think of at the moment. and i am still contemplating the 24-70 f2.8L, after all i still have a week left before i leave on my excursion. THANKS AGAIN, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. it has been enlightening to say the least of very expensive. rolleyes1.gif , but again toys are toys.
    Great choices!

    Make sure you have, and use, a solid tripod. And I think you'll want the 24-70, you have an important gap in your armory.
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    k2c1959 wrote:
    ok guys i really appreciate all the help and suggestions given to me on this thread. after some consideration and help from here and local camera shops, this is what i have decided for my 12 day trip adventure, you are correct in the fact that there is no such thing as a one lense deal on this excursion, so i have bought the canon 17-40 f4L, 70-200 f4L, a battery grip, 2-4 gb cf extemeIII cards, a tripod,lense hoods, filters/polarizers, i know thats not it but all i can think of at the moment. and i am still contemplating the 24-70 f2.8L, after all i still have a week left before i leave on my excursion. THANKS AGAIN, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. it has been enlightening to say the least of very expensive. rolleyes1.gif , but again toys are toys.
    Have a nice trip and shooting.
    Show us the pictures when you can.
    Post here. It will be easier to have a clue ...
    I am not the guy to envy people, but I would love to go with you... :):
    Do you have a porter for all this stuff ?:D
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited June 9, 2006
    k2c1959 wrote:
    ok guys i really appreciate all the help and suggestions given to me on this thread. after some consideration and help from here and local camera shops, this is what i have decided for my 12 day trip adventure, you are correct in the fact that there is no such thing as a one lense deal on this excursion, so i have bought the canon 17-40 f4L, 70-200 f4L, a battery grip, 2-4 gb cf extemeIII cards, a tripod,lense hoods, filters/polarizers, i know thats not it but all i can think of at the moment. and i am still contemplating the 24-70 f2.8L, after all i still have a week left before i leave on my excursion. THANKS AGAIN, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. it has been enlightening to say the least of very expensive. rolleyes1.gif , but again toys are toys.

    Did you buy the lens hoods seperate? Becuase L glass comes with a lens hood.
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  • JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    k2c1959 wrote:
    ok guys i really appreciate all the help and suggestions given to me on this thread. after some consideration and help from here and local camera shops, this is what i have decided for my 12 day trip adventure, you are correct in the fact that there is no such thing as a one lense deal on this excursion, so i have bought the canon 17-40 f4L, 70-200 f4L, a battery grip, 2-4 gb cf extemeIII cards, a tripod,lense hoods, filters/polarizers, i know thats not it but all i can think of at the moment. and i am still contemplating the 24-70 f2.8L, after all i still have a week left before i leave on my excursion. THANKS AGAIN, I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT. it has been enlightening to say the least of very expensive. rolleyes1.gif , but again toys are toys.

    Extra Batteries? ne_nau.gif Charger adapter for car? ne_nau.gif As for your gap, get the 24-70L if money isn't an option, or by a 50 f1.8 to get you buy:D .

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  • k2c1959k2c1959 Registered Users Posts: 123 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    Red Bull wrote:
    Did you buy the lens hoods seperate? Becuase L glass comes with a lens hood.
    no actualy the hoods were for 2 other lenses im taking also, the original lense that came with the xt and a 28-105 f3.5-4.5 usm. figured im packing heavy i might as well take them all. 12 days is a long time and never know what you are going to get in to.
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited June 10, 2006
    Ah, ok. Looks like you will be well prepared for your trip. You will love your new gear.
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  • k2c1959k2c1959 Registered Users Posts: 123 Major grins
    edited June 14, 2006
    tried out my new CANON 70-200 F/4L YESTERDAY AND ALL I CAN SAY IS "HOLY CRAP" where has this lense been all my life..lol outstanding.... still waiting on my 17-40L to come in tomorrow. my trip ought to be awesome. thanks again all.
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  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited June 14, 2006
    rolleyes1.gifYep, those 70-200 lenses have that effect. Welcome to the great brotherhood of the Lcoholics! Now nothing less than an L lens will be good enough. :D
  • jimfjimf Registered Users Posts: 338 Major grins
    edited June 14, 2006
    rolleyes1.gifYep, those 70-200 lenses have that effect. Welcome to the great brotherhood of the Lcoholics! Now nothing less than an L lens will be good enough. :D

    Ain't that a fact. I got my first L used from a friend of mine and have been filling in the gaps ever since. It was hard as heck to put the money up for the 70-200 2.8 IS but it sees plenty of use.
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited June 14, 2006
    After hesitating for a week :D I asked in the shop for the 70~200 f/2.8 USM L IS today.
    I own the 16~35 f/2.8 USM L and the 24~70 f/2.8 USM L to mount on the 20D.
    You found the 70~200 is to be good. OK. That's fine.
    Because tomorow is a public holliday, I guess I'll have it by friday...
    Then... :)::)::): shooooot !!! ...
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  • k2c1959k2c1959 Registered Users Posts: 123 Major grins
    edited June 15, 2006
    got my 17-40L today, tried it out and all i can say is im hooked for life now on "THE BIG L" awesome does no justice to describe.wow wow...
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  • USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2006
    k2c1959 wrote:
    got my 17-40L today, tried it out and all i can say is im hooked for life now on "THE BIG L" awesome does no justice to describe.wow wow...
    Thats good to hear I probably will go that route
    Have fun with the new lens

    Fred
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