Whipping great photographers

marlofmarlof Registered Users Posts: 1,833 Major grins
edited June 27, 2006 in The Big Picture
Mike Johnston has written an amazingly funny entry on how great photographers might have been met when they would have shared their images in areas like the whipping post. A must read. :D
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  • USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2006
  • RichardRichard Administrators, Vanilla Admin Posts: 19,962 moderator
    edited June 24, 2006
    rolleyes1.gifroflrolleyes1.gif

    Thanks for the link.

    Cheers,
  • saurorasaurora Registered Users Posts: 4,320 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2006
    Pretty clever! rolleyes1.gif Makes me stop and think about the critiques I've left on the whipping post!!! :uhoh
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 24, 2006
    Hilarious!
    ...and soo true..rolleyes1.gif
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  • ehughesehughes Registered Users Posts: 1,675 Major grins
    edited June 25, 2006
    perfect !! :D
  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited June 26, 2006
    rolleyes1.gif
    Best laugh all week!
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited June 26, 2006
    crack my ass!-

    God forgive me!-

    thanks marlof!-
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 26, 2006
    Very funny!nd something i think about everytime I post in Whipping Post, or elsewhere for that matter.

    I think the obvious difference is that the masters show they've mastered their technique, can reproduce their "look" at will, and have arrived at their "look" by developing their aesthetic.

    Whereas most of us are happy to get the exposure right. lol3.gif
    Sid.
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  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited June 27, 2006
    wxwax wrote:
    Very funny!nd something i think about everytime I post in Whipping Post, or elsewhere for that matter.

    I think the obvious difference is that the masters show they've mastered their technique, can reproduce their "look" at will, and have arrived at their "look" by developing their aesthetic.

    Whereas most of us are happy to get the exposure right. lol3.gif


    hah!-

    very funny, sid-

    (but more right than funny)-
  • marlofmarlof Registered Users Posts: 1,833 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2006
    Funny you say that, Sid. It's part of what Mike describes in his follow up. If you *knew* you looked at the work of an accomplished photographer, would you assume that whatever you find wrong in a picture was wrong deliberately? From another post on the Online Photographer: a nice example is by this photo on Flickr, which was voted to be deleted by a Flickr group. It's a Cartier-Bresson image. Would people have voted different if they knew that? That he could change things if he wanted to, so that his choices were made to create the exact image you're seeing? Mike concludes that we shouldn't discuss "the image that could have been" (if only you stepped a few inches to the side; if only you did this or that), but "the image as is", which should either be a yes or no. I've fallen into the photographers club trap before, but this is something I'll try to keep in mind, since in essence I wholeheartedly agree.
    enjoy being here while getting there
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2006
    I'll be the first to admit that a good many "classic" photos leave me cold. I put that down to my immature aesthetic sense.

    As for feedback on my own shots, I feel I'm experienced enough to know what to dismiss and what to consider. As one of the posters says, some of the feedback has already been considered and dismissed by the shooter.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2006
    All in all
    wxwax wrote:
    I'll be the first to admit that a good many "classic" photos leave me cold. I put that down to my immature aesthetic sense.

    As for feedback on my own shots, I feel I'm experienced enough to know what to dismiss and what to consider. As one of the posters says, some of the feedback has already been considered and dismissed by the shooter.

    "How many photographers does it take to screw in a light bulb"?
    "Fifty. One to screw it in and forty nine to say that they would've done a much better job only if given an opportunity"

    Cheers! 1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2006
    cool read

    makes me want to go back and make sure I've put "I think" before all my critique comments :D
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited June 27, 2006
    I suspect that every photographer (indeed every artist of every discipline) who pushed against the boundaries of the accepted norm met with criticism from the "experts."

    It takes time (and talent) to win people over to vision. Art is the combination of vision, creativity, technique, faith, discipline, perserverance, originality... all sorts of qualities are need to make an artist and a piece of art.

    I'm pretty sure it's not a single snap with some heavy-handed Photoshopping and a "How's this look?"

    lol3.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
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