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Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
edited July 12, 2006 in Wildlife
A fence sitting Robin. :rolleyes

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  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
  • dallasdallas Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
    I've been trying to get a Robin shot for a month now, and he just won't stay long enough. You did very well. thumb.gifthumb.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
    Bet you could be more decided if you'd give this birdie a little pop :)
    http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1075277

    wave.gif Hi Ric :D
    Ric Grupe wrote:
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Bet you could be more decided if you'd give this birdie a little pop :)
    http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1075277

    wave.gif Hi Ric :D

    Truthfully, your edit looks much like my original shot.

    I thought it would be more pleasing showing some of the shadow detail.

    Thanks for commenting.:D

    Robins with their drabness are hard to capture properly without the right light.
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
    GREAPER wrote:
    Nice Ric.

    Thanks! :D
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 8, 2006
    dallas wrote:
    I've been trying to get a Robin shot for a month now, and he just won't stay long enough. You did very well. thumb.gifthumb.gif

    Thanks, Willliam. :D

    They seem content to give you this angle, but shy away from frontal exposure. (that sounded a little kinky...didn't it?rolleyes1.gif )
  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2006
    Good capture Ric considering the lighting you had on that shot. Have you tried falsh on your wildlife shots. Some flash might had brought out the robin's red breast.
    Harry
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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    Good capture Ric considering the lighting you had on that shot. Have you tried falsh on your wildlife shots. Some flash might had brought out the robin's red breast.

    Hi Harry,

    I have no doubt that flash would be desirable over post work. The thing is...until I have a higher percentage of decent shots...dealing with a flash would only further confuse an already taxed brain. rolleyes1.gif

    I am considering buying the 400L IS f/4 DO because of it's ability to be handheld. With the 1.4 TC that would be 560mm and should help a lot. I realize that the 500 is a better lens but most of my shooting is in tight highly vegetated areas...so a tripod would mean even fewer captures. I'd rather have 10 very good shots than 1 or 2 excellent or no shot!

    I wanted to add this note so you can better understand where I'm coming from. Without patting myself on the back too hard, in order to properly explain....I am an intelligent sort of guy that things for the most part come easy for me. Photography is not one of those things. This is what draws me to it. I don't want to learn everything fast, become accomplished, and drop it over the boredom that would ensue. I want to stay just enough in the dark so things are more new and exciting. Hopefully this is something I can do and be happy with for the rest of my days. Make sense?
  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    Hi Harry,

    I have no doubt that flash would be desirable over post work. The thing is...until I have a higher percentage of decent shots...dealing with a flash would only further confuse an already taxed brain. rolleyes1.gif

    No problem, take your time. When you're comfortable with it you will make your move. I waited a long time before using flash on my wildlife shots. Of course I woll bug you about whenever I see a shot where some flash would have helped. :D

    I am considering buying the 400L IS f/4 DO because of it's ability to be handheld. With the 1.4 TC that would be 560mm and should help a lot. I realize that the 500 is a better lens but most of my shooting is in tight highly vegetated areas...so a tripod would mean even fewer captures. I'd rather have 10 very good shots than 1 or 2 excellent or no shot!

    I agree with you 100%. Almost any photographer would get more use from a 400m prime or zoom than a 500mm. The weight factor and the cost makes the 500mm a specialty lens.

    I
    wanted to add this note so you can better understand where I'm coming from. Without patting myself on the back too hard, in order to properly explain....I am an intelligent sort of guy that things for the most part come easy for me. Photography is not one of those things. This is what draws me to it. I don't want to learn everything fast, become accomplished, and drop it over the boredom that would ensue. I want to stay just enough in the dark so things are more new and exciting. Hopefully this is something I can do and be happy with for the rest of my days. Make sense?

    Makes a lot of sense. Photography is easy for me to do but damn hard to do well. If I liked golf I probably would play golf to satisfy my need for frustration but since I hate golf, photography provides me with plenty of frustration.

    We all make our own stumbling progress at own individual pace.
    Harry
    http://behret.smugmug.com/ NANPA member
    How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    If I liked golf I probably would play golf to satisfy my need for frustration but since I hate golf, photography provides me with plenty of frustration.

    Heh...heh! I broke par for the first time late last year.....I've hardly played at all this year. Kinda makes my last point.
  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:

    I am considering buying the 400L IS f/4 DO because of it's ability to be handheld. With the 1.4 TC that would be 560mm and should help a lot. I realize that the 500 is a better lens but most of my shooting is in tight highly vegetated areas...so a tripod would mean even fewer captures. I'd rather have 10 very good shots than 1 or 2 excellent or no shot!

    I usually shoot with the 400L IS f/4 DO with the 1.4 TC. I bought it because I do a lot of walking/hiking when I take pictures. I think that if I had the oportunity to do it over I would get the 500L F/4 instead and deal with the extra weight.

    Personally I like your version vs the added contrast!
    Glenn

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  • evil eggplantevil eggplant Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    Nice job, Ric. Really sharp. I like it. Cheers
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    A fence sitting Robin. rolleyes1.gif

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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    I usually shoot with the 400L IS f/4 DO with the 1.4 TC. I bought it because I do a lot of walking/hiking when I take pictures. I think that if I had the oportunity to do it over I would get the 500L F/4 instead and deal with the extra weight.

    Personally I like your version vs the added contrast!

    Thanks, Glenn. :D

    Why? ne_nau.gifNot enough length or the craving for even better shots?mwink.gif
    Maybe if you had the 500 first you might be wanting the lighter 400 DO! That's the nature of this game.....I think. rolleyes1.gif

  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    Nice job, Ric. Really sharp. I like it. Cheers

    Thanks very much, Rich. :D
  • Awais YaqubAwais Yaqub Registered Users Posts: 10,572 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    loved it very cool
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  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited July 11, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    Thanks, Glenn. :D

    Why? ne_nau.gifNot enough length or the craving for even better shots?mwink.gif
    Maybe if you had the 500 first you might be wanting the lighter 400 DO! That's the nature of this game.....I think. rolleyes1.gif

    You are probably right! But with the 400 DO I've noticed that it functions best above F8, and has trouble with autofocus with lower F stops. This could just be user error, but I have had sharper photos with my 300L IS in similiar conditions. ne_nau.gif It is still a great lens and most of the time I'm quite happy with it!
    Glenn

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  • Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited July 12, 2006
    loved it very cool

    Thank you, Awais! :D
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