The Backprinting Thread (Tips, and Questions)

Cindy · August 22, 2006

SamirD wrote:

He's probably sleeping right now. It's pretty late for the eastern half of the US to be up. :uhoh

:confused Sleeping... what's that?

Of course I'm kidding. I wasn't expecting an answer right now (even days would be okay here)... but knowing Andy & the team they'll have an answer or update of some sorts asap. That's one of the many greatest blessings I love about smugmug is their awesome support.

Speaking of sleeping..... guess I'm up later/earlier than the rest of the mid US... Night all. :snore

Andy · August 22, 2006

Cindy wrote:

:confused Sleeping... what's that?
Of course I'm kidding. I wasn't expecting an answer right now (even days would be okay here)... but knowing Andy & the team they'll have an answer or update of some sorts asap. That's one of the many greatest blessings I love about smugmug is their awesome support.
Speaking of sleeping..... guess I'm up later/earlier than the rest of the mid US... Night all. :snore

Stay tuned, I'll nail this down as fast as I can.

Andy · August 22, 2006

Andy wrote:

Stay tuned, I'll nail this down as fast as I can.

Right now, there's a technical limitation on the transmitting and printing of the ©, and so that's why (c) is used. I'm still investigating options and possibilities.

photogmomma · October 3, 2006

If I am logged in, have something specific set for backprinting (in this case, the comment), when I order, will it be used? Or do I have to be logged out and ordering as a customer?

Thanks!

ivar · October 3, 2006

photogmomma wrote:

If I am logged in, have something specific set for backprinting (in this case, the comment), when I order, will it be used? Or do I have to be logged out and ordering as a customer?

Thanks!

Hi Andi, you will get the backprinting, also when you are logged in

photogmomma · October 3, 2006

ivar wrote:

Hi Andi, you will get the backprinting, also when you are logged in

Coolio! That's the answer I wanted!!!

SteveLajoie · October 29, 2006

Another request for "Year" please

claudermilk wrote:

Another request for that.

Another request for "Year" please

dogwood · November 7, 2006

Andy wrote:

Right now, there's a technical limitation on the transmitting and printing of the ©, and so that's why (c) is used. I'm still investigating options and possibilities.

Andy,

Is your investigation complete? Any updates?

Andy · November 7, 2006

dogwood wrote:

Andy,

Is your investigation complete? Any updates?

(c) only, sorry.

dogwood · November 7, 2006

Andy wrote:

(c) only, sorry.

Thanks. I still think this is a cool feature. And hey-- using opt-g or alt-0169 saves a couple of characters over typing (c), right? Or does it? I wasn't clear on that.

pat.kane · November 7, 2006

Andy wrote:

(c) only, sorry.

Given that, I recommend that people use Copr. instead of (c). It's only two characters longer and it actually means something, as explained here:

http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=368659&postcount=28

System · January 17, 2007

Is this still true? I entered an 0169 into my backprint string, and it was accepted, and displays on the control panel...

Andy · January 17, 2007

imageinc wrote:

Is this still true? I entered an 0169 into my backprint string, and it was accepted, and displays on the control panel...

System · January 22, 2007

Andy wrote:

© won't work, I'm sorry. (c) will work.

Alas, (C) is of no legal impact.

If we can't convince the backprinters to print the copyright symbol, then let's a) get a lab with a clue (with all due respect to EZ, that's moronic), or b) forbid it's entry in the UI, please?

Andy · January 22, 2007

imageinc wrote:

Alas, (C) is of no legal impact.

If we can't convince the backprinters to print the copyright symbol, then let's a) get a lab with a clue (with all due respect to EZ, that's moronic), or b) forbid it's entry in the UI, please?

Hi Imaginc-
Our lustre finish also has a copyright notice on it.

I'm afraid that it's not EZP's issue - and they are not moronic.

We'll keep after another solution though!

davidweaver · May 9, 2007

Andy wrote:

Hi Imaginc-
Our lustre finish also has a copyright notice on it.

I'm afraid that it's not EZP's issue - and they are not moronic.

We'll keep after another solution though!

Errr... a few things. The Fuji Frontiers and many other lab printers don't support the circle-c copyright character '©'. It's a code hack at the lab to turn that character into the (c) that gets fed to the printers otherwise if just sent to a Frontier you get a bunch of garbage characters in the backprinting. I've run tests on this. It is not a lab issue. It's a printer issue.

I won't go into if you need to state the copyright or not. It matters if you feel YOU need to have it. '©' and (c) and Cpyrght and (C) and COPR all mean the same on a backprint.

I'll bet Andy gets lots and lots of requests for this. I used to get these requests all the time from my business customers at ClubPhoto (a now bankrupt contract printing company) because their customers wanted them. That's why I know about the Frontier backprinting. Cyras and old agfas have the ability to backprint. Backprinting was originally done as a way to identify prints with an order at a lab level. It's nice that SM offers this customization. Useful for lots of things other than ©.

BTW: most of the time, making a print or even a photobook is not equal to publishing, so the year + copyright isn't needed either.

The Backprinting Thread (Tips, and Questions)

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