bad moon rising

fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
edited February 6, 2004 in Technique
Problem: very bright full moon with hazy aura. 100/2.8 macro lens. I could see the definition of the moon through the viewfinder, but I could not for the life of me capture it. I tried a range of exposures, a range of apertures, and center-weighted metering. They all turned out similar to this one. Do I need a neutral density filter? Is the moon too bright?
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    Manual
    1/400 f8
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  • DeaconDeacon Registered Users Posts: 239 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    "attached image"
    Fish,

    Maybe you can help, there is no image showing up on your posts. I have noticed this on other threads that some of the photos are present, the others just say the image is attached?!?

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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    Is that the moon?
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  • cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    fish wrote:
    Manual
    1/400 f8
    Still over exposed. Which ISO were you using?

    I applied a .3 gamma to the 2nd one and got:
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited February 5, 2004
    fish wrote:
    Manual
    1/400 f8
    Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
    Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!
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  • Shay StephensShay Stephens Registered Users Posts: 3,165 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
    Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!
    I will second that. Treat the moon like you would a daytime shot.
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    cmr164 wrote:
    Still over exposed. Which ISO were you using?

    I applied a .3 gamma to the 2nd one and got:
    ISO800. Nice gamma touch, but I wanted to capture the halo too.
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
    Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!
    Cool. Clearly, I have some work to do.

    Thanks for the responses.
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited February 5, 2004
    fish wrote:
    Cool. Clearly, I have some work to do.

    Thanks for the responses.
    Nah!!!

    Here is a previous attempt of mine at ISO 400. 1/750 CALL IT 1/800 at f9.5 - Should have been 1/400 at f16 or 1/800 at f11 - so it is slightly underexposed I think 2287088-L.jpg
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  • Shay StephensShay Stephens Registered Users Posts: 3,165 Major grins
    edited February 6, 2004
    fish wrote:
    ISO800. Nice gamma touch, but I wanted to capture the halo too.
    The dynamic range is likely too much to capture in a single exposure. Maybe with RAW, but I doubt it. Likely you will need to do a large bracket shot of at least two exposures and stack the images later in an image editor.
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 6, 2004
    Shay Stephens wrote:
    The dynamic range is likely too much to capture in a single exposure. Maybe with RAW, but I doubt it. Likely you will need to do a large bracket shot of at least two exposures and stack the images later in an image editor.
    I was just gonna say, do it in photoshop... as a matter of fact...
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited February 6, 2004
    very quick hack job... used a cooling filter too:
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