D80 - anyone get it yet?

MyView

Just curious as to see if anyone has bought themselves the new D80 yet. If so, what's your thoughts on it.

I've got a D70, considering getting the D80 over the D200, any thoughts on that?

Just wondering what people think of the D80. Worth the buy?

illuminati919

I dont own it but I've played with it at work and its a great camera I can tell you that much. Its a big step up from a D70 and you're hearing this from a Canon shooter. It also comes with an awesome lens i think its like 17- 105, which is an awesome lens if you buy the kit, especially for beginners, but thats all I really know about it.

DoctorIt

I'm not in a hurry to replace all my CF cards with SD.

Should be plenty of D80's out, there's already been a few for sale on the FredMiranda buy/sell. May want to check over there or Nikonians for some more discussion.

MyView

Thanks for the heads up on Nikonians, I'll check it out. I didn't think about the sd/cf issue. Luckily i don't have a ton of cards to make this be much of an issue. lol

I also appreciate knowing your thoughts that it's a step up from the D70... Good to know!!!

Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.

botanist

Nope, the next upgrade will be D200 or greater (most likely D200 though). I outgrew the D70's body style way faster than the actual sensor. The D200's offer of 3 Kings within finger reach (1 button instead of 1 button plus scroll wheel) is a big kicker for me. However the file sizes...yeah not looking forward to that

I'm not getting one for awhile though, still have plent of D70 to use up! The only real advantages I see to the 80/200 over the 70/70s are true histogram (rgb/L instead of L) and ISO 100 (d200). That's of course, for what I shoot and how I shoot. Someone else will find far more use in some of the new features. I love them all, but don't "need" them so to speak.

DoctorIt

botanist wrote:

Nope, the next upgrade will be D200 or greater (most likely D200 though). I outgrew the D70's body style way faster than the actual sensor. The D200's offer of 3 Kings within finger reach (1 button instead of 1 button plus scroll wheel) is a big kicker for me. However the file sizes...yeah not looking forward to that

I'm not getting one for awhile though, still have plent of D70 to use up! The only real advantages I see to the 80/200 over the 70/70s are true histogram (rgb/L instead of L) and ISO 100 (d200). That's of course, for what I shoot and how I shoot. Someone else will find far more use in some of the new features. I love them all, but don't "need" them so to speak.

Some good points there as well. Sure I'd love an 80, but my 70 is still a great camera.

Beyond the jump to SD, I'm also cautious about upgrading to a 10mp sensor. Those are some really BIG files! A friend upgraded to a D200 a while back and was really surprised at the huge files. If you don't have the latest fanciest computer, keep that in mind. Files that big will not only require more storage space, but they are at least twice as big to work with in photoshop = slower.

botanist

DoctorIt wrote:

Some good points there as well. Sure I'd love an 80, but my 70 is still a great camera.

Beyond the jump to SD, I'm also cautious about upgrading to a 10mp sensor. Those are some really BIG files! A friend upgraded to a D200 a while back and was really surprised at the huge files. If you don't have the latest fanciest computer, keep that in mind. Files that big will not only require more storage space, but they are at least twice as big to work with in photoshop = slower.

you're absolutely right.

My friend just got a D200 two weeks ago and is battling the file sizes as we speak! He made a stitch this morning of a few rainbow shots and got to a 230MB pshop file in a heartbeat. :uhoh My powerbook is pushing a gig and a half of ram and the idea of trying to edit a quarter gig psd worries even me!

Like you said, if you're on an older pc/mac with <512mb of ram you're going to be hurting...even more so than you probably are now <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

Art Scott

If (when may be more appropiate, as I am not impressed with new Sony, but I must wear out the 2 - 7D's) I leave the KM-Sony Arena...the D200 would be my choice...yes the files are 75% larger than my 6mp 7D...but what I need is the built in recording of GPS locations.....but with the much bigger files I guess my 20gb scratch disk may get plenty of use........

ballentphoto

Art Scott wrote:

If (when may be more appropiate, as I am not impressed with new Sony, but I must wear out the 2 - 7D's) I leave the KM-Sony Arena...the D200 would be my choice...yes the files are 75% larger than my 6mp 7D...but what I need is the built in recording of GPS locations.....but with the much bigger files I guess my 20gb scratch disk may get plenty of use........

I have the D200 and really love it, but is has caused me to upgrade computers, now running a Core 2 Duo with 4 gig of RAM and now Nikon Capture runs along quite nicely. Exporting the file into PSE now is quite fast . The NEF (raw) files are about 8 meg each (compressed) 16 Bit TIFF files are about 57 Meg and those Photoshop files grow very fast (100+ MB in a heartbeat) But just love the camera, provided you have good holding technique (true of any large MP camera) They are very suceptable to camera shake. If any one has any particular questions I would be happy to answer them All the images on my site are with D200 and most of them are with the 17-55 f/2.8 In a few days I will be putting 70-200VR f/2.8 images up there.

chuckice

Nikon Capture and NX working on 15mb raw files can be painful. Just plan on needing a nice pc and serious backup disc space. I don't find the D200 any more/less susceptible to camera shake than the D70 or D2X.

mwgrice

DoctorIt wrote:

I'm not in a hurry to replace all my CF cards with SD.

Should be plenty of D80's out, there's already been a few for sale on the FredMiranda buy/sell. May want to check over there or Nikonians for some more discussion.

The thought of replacing all my CF cards doesn't make me happy, either. B&H has 2 GB cards in the $80 range, which would be on the order of $400 to replace my current stock. I'm sure many of you have more.

Naturally, I'm also interested in the Pentax K10D (just announced), which also uses SD. The only compelling reason I can think of to switch is for a new camera.

ballentphoto

chuckice wrote:

Nikon Capture and NX working on 15mb raw files can be painful. Just plan on needing a nice pc and serious backup disc space. I don't find the D200 any more/less susceptible to camera shake than the D70 or D2X.

You must have good handholding technique When I first got mine I realized that it was much less forgiving than the film SLR I was using. Since the photosites/inch is greater it will detect much finer movement vs a D70. But hold it well and you are well on your way to some excellent photographs

chuckice

ballentphoto wrote:

You must have good handholding technique When I first got mine I realized that it was much less forgiving than the film SLR I was using. Since the photosites/inch is greater it will detect much finer movement vs a D70. But hold it well and you are well on your way to some excellent photographs

It makes sense but I've just never seen it in practice... I do know that the D200 is the most conservative of the 3 for sharpening out of body. Curious as to how the D80 will handle this...I'm impressed with what I see so far for noise at iso800/1600 on the D80!

MyView

I really like my D70 and I don't think that I have technically outgrown it by any means, but I will be sending it in to Nikon for the 4th time to get fixed and I'm thinking I have a bad seed and since they just keep fixing the problem (or so they say) and sending it back (which i don't have it for weeks) I am thinking I should consider replacing it. I am really torn though, it's not like I didn't pay good money for this one and it's still under warranty, but they haven't replaced it yet, they just keep so called fixing it, but i can't go that long without it. Does this make me want to jump out and buy another Nikon. lol Well, I've got all the gear to go with Nikon and though I may not like their repair shop, I am comfortable with my camera.

So here I sit trying to decide what my next move should be. Other than chewing out the next person I get to deal with at Nikon.

I really appreciate all your replies, it really does open my mind up to the drawbacks to upgrading to either the d80 or d200 and also some of the pro's.