Young Model

Dramatapix®Dramatapix® Registered Users Posts: 430 Major grins
edited September 18, 2006 in People
Hello...

I'm using Photoshop Elements for my Post Editing. I took this picture of a young model in a teen cabaret yesterday. Can anyone give me feedback on the transposition to black and white, and offer tips on how to do this better in Elements. Thanks in advance.

mackenzieresize.jpg
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  • John DesjarlaisJohn Desjarlais Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited September 17, 2006
    Nice shot, DP. Something funny about her eyes - almost like they were selectively oversharpened.

    As for B&W conversions in PSE, most will agree that using a channel mixer gives the most flexibility. You basically play with the R, G, and B channel sliders until you get the tonal balance you're looking for. For people, I usually end up with about a 40:60:0 R:G:B balance, but this can depend on the subject (and their eye color, for instance). Unfortunately, the basic PSE app. doesn't have a channel mixer. However, plugins exist that do this. For the one I use, go to: http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html

    hope this helps
    John Desjarlais
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  • Dramatapix®Dramatapix® Registered Users Posts: 430 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2006
    Nice shot, DP. Something funny about her eyes - almost like they were selectively oversharpened.

    As for B&W conversions in PSE, most will agree that using a channel mixer gives the most flexibility. You basically play with the R, G, and B channel sliders until you get the tonal balance you're looking for. For people, I usually end up with about a 40:60:0 R:G:B balance, but this can depend on the subject (and their eye color, for instance). Unfortunately, the basic PSE app. doesn't have a channel mixer. However, plugins exist that do this. For the one I use, go to: http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html

    hope this helps

    Wow... what a great plug in, and what a difference. Thank you so much!

    teencaba0071b&w2resize.jpg

    Brett
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  • OwenOwen Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2006
    I would have done two things differently.

    1) Had her looking in the direction her head is pointed.
    2) Taken that annoying choker/band off of her neck!

    Owen
  • John DesjarlaisJohn Desjarlais Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited September 17, 2006
    Wow - glad to see the plug-in worked for you. And yes, the new BW conversion is very dramatic!
    John Desjarlais
    macrophile.smugmug.com
  • Dramatapix®Dramatapix® Registered Users Posts: 430 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2006
    Owen wrote:
    I would have done two things differently.

    1) Had her looking in the direction her head is pointed.
    2) Taken that annoying choker/band off of her neck!

    Owen

    I totally agree about the choker. I didn't really notice it til after the shoot.

    As far as where her focus it, I appreciate the feedback, but I think her looking into the camera adds to the dramatic nature of the shot.

    B~
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  • LittleLewLittleLew Registered Users Posts: 368 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2006
    This is not so much a critique of the shot as a comment on the model.

    Her face is without much angularity or shape and it looks much less dramatic than her hair. With the lighting being as flat as it is, her face sort of gets lost.
    New pictures at LewLortonphoto.com
  • stephiewilliamsstephiewilliams Registered Users Posts: 168 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2006
    I like the shot posed as it is...I think the hair going out of the frame is a little distracting...would have preferred the ends to stay in. One thing that I am drawn to is the crinkly texture of her lips...any way to fix this in ps?
    Stephie
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  • Dramatapix®Dramatapix® Registered Users Posts: 430 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2006
    I like the shot posed as it is...I think the hair going out of the frame is a little distracting...would have preferred the ends to stay in. One thing that I am drawn to is the crinkly texture of her lips...any way to fix this in ps?

    I wouldn't mind hearing this as well.
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  • SpeshulEdSpeshulEd Registered Users Posts: 341 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2006
    this might help a little on b&w conversions
    http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/digital-black-and-white/
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