Watermark = No EXIF?

wslamwslam Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
edited November 9, 2006 in SmugMug Support
I noticed that all the photos that have been watermarked no longer have EXIF embedded in tehe JPG. Is this a bug? Or is this meant to be? Why?

Thanks. ws
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  • SledhedSledhed Registered Users Posts: 79 Big grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    Exif
    Only the original size has the EXIF, when the images are resized the EXIF is stripped.
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  • wslamwslam Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    Thanks. Somehow I didn't realize that before. Thanks for pointing it out. Any reason why this is done?
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    wslam wrote:
    T Any reason why this is done?

    Yes. To improve the viewing experience, and make the file sizes smaller.

    You can always copy the exif link, and share it. If you want to view exif on the page, on your site, try critique style :)
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  • DJKennedyDJKennedy Registered Users Posts: 555 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Yes. To improve the viewing experience, and make the file sizes smaller.

    Not that I'm trying to start an arguement or anything, but how does stripping the EXIF improve the viewing experience - other than making the file size smaller which would help in faster loading: or is that what you where referring to? <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    For me personally, my viewing experience would be improved having the info there as I always want to know that information when I see a really nice photo to the extent I have extensions (FF) to allow me to view EXIF information (if available of course).

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/deal.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > <--- me reading EXIF info! :)
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  • onethumbonethumb Administrators Posts: 1,269 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    DJKennedy wrote:
    Not that I'm trying to start an arguement or anything, but how does stripping the EXIF improve the viewing experience - other than making the file size smaller which would help in faster loading: or is that what you where referring to? <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    For me personally, my viewing experience would be improved having the info there as I always want to know that information when I see a really nice photo to the extent I have extensions (FF) to allow me to view EXIF information (if available of course).

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/deal.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > <--- me reading EXIF info! :)

    You hit the nail on the head - it makes loading the photo much faster. 10-200% faster, to be exact, depending on the size.

    Don
  • DJKennedyDJKennedy Registered Users Posts: 555 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    onethumb wrote:
    You hit the nail on the head - it makes loading the photo much faster. 10-200% faster, to be exact, depending on the size.

    Don

    OK - thats a 100% valid arguement...dang...now you're making me wonder if I should change my site.

    Ok - if I set my galleries to NOT show the exif (I use the smugmug gallery setup, and I currently allow the viewer the option to see the exif),will this help? Or is the EXIF pre stripped unless you hit the EXIF link to view it? (does that make sense??)
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 7, 2006
    DJKennedy wrote:
    OK - thats a 100% valid arguement...dang...now you're making me wonder if I should change my site.

    Ok - if I set my galleries to NOT show the exif (I use the smugmug gallery setup, and I currently allow the viewer the option to see the exif),will this help? Or is the EXIF pre stripped unless you hit the EXIF link to view it? (does that make sense??)
    There's no overhead on exif being allowed as a clickable link on your site. Leave it as is :D
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  • wslamwslam Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2006
    how much space does EXIF usually take up? a few kB at most?

    anyway to improve the quality of the watermarked photos? the jpg compression artifact is pretty bad.
    ws, photos.lam.ws
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 8, 2006
    wslam wrote:
    how much space does EXIF usually take up? a few kB at most?

    anyway to improve the quality of the watermarked photos? the jpg compression artifact is pretty bad.
    The jpg compression on watermarked images is the same as on non-watermarked images. Can you give us an example to look at? Thanks!
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  • wslamwslam Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited November 9, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    The jpg compression on watermarked images is the same as on non-watermarked images. Can you give us an example to look at? Thanks!

    You are right! I double checked. It's all in my head! =)

    ws
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