Hakone Gardens

SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
edited December 26, 2004 in Wildlife
Some one has got to tell me the secret of photographing fish under water!

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  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    One more Hakone shot
    One more from Hakone Gardens. Must go back in the spring. Steven Spielberg is going to shoot a movie there next month.
  • cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    Sam wrote:
    Some one has got to tell me the secret of photographing fish under water!
    Use a circular polariser! You are talking about the Hakone with hot springs in Japan now?
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  • dkappdkapp Registered Users Posts: 985 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    Nice shots Sam. I don't have a polarizer either, but I guess this is more reason to get one now.

    How far of a drive is this from SFO? I'm going to put a thread together in our photo group forums.

    Dave
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    dkapp wrote:
    Nice shots Sam. I don't have a polarizer either, but I guess this is more reason to get one now.

    How far of a drive is this from SFO? I'm going to put a thread together in our photo group forums.

    Dave
    I do have a circular polarizer, but with the overcast day and shooting at ISO 400 I didn't put it on. I took about 25 shots and the water seems to limit the sharpness one can achieve.

    Hakone Gardens is located in Saratoga. That is about an hour or so from where you are. I would wait until spring when there will be more color.


    I live in San Jose.

    Sam
  • dkappdkapp Registered Users Posts: 985 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    Sam wrote:
    I do have a circular polarizer, but with the overcast day and shooting at ISO 400 I didn't put it on. I took about 25 shots and the water seems to limit the sharpness one can achieve.

    Hakone Gardens is located in Saratoga. That is about an hour or so from where you are. I would wait until spring when there will be more color.


    I live in San Jose.

    Sam

    How much light do you lose w/ the polarizer?

    Dave
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    cmr164 wrote:
    Use a circular polariser! You are talking about the Hakone with hot springs in Japan now?
    No, this is a Japaneese Garden that was created in Saratoga California in 1915, and although it has changed hands a few times it has been maintained since that time, and now is owned by the city of Saratoga.

    Here is a link hakone gardens - japanese garden in saratoga california
  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    dkapp wrote:
    How much light do you lose w/ the polarizer?

    Dave
    I am not sure, but I think about 2 stops, and if your already at ISO 400 to get a shutter speed of 1/ 30 of a second, I didn't think I had any room to spare. :D

    Sam
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited December 26, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    As an alternative to a polarizing filter, try a marine housing perhaps and put the surface of the lens underwater? :D

    Without either of those alternatives, keeping the shooting axis of your lens as perpendicular to the surface of the water as possible will help some. Shooting into the surface of water is always challenging and sometimes impossible due to being beyond the critical angle. You did good I think

    I prefer shooting through aquarium walls ....
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    You might be able to reduce some of the haziness in the water with overlay blending and some sharpening..... I tried it with your 800 pixel image here and got this. Any improvement or is it worse, Sam?
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  • SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited December 26, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    You might be able to reduce some of the haziness in the water with overlay blending and some sharpening..... I tried it with your 800 pixel image here and got this. Any improvement or is it worse, Sam?
    It was kinda hard going back and forth between the two images, but it seems your tweek is a little better. Now if I only had a clue as to what an overlay blend is. ne_nau.gif

    As a side note, I printed it, and it printed out better than what is on the monitor.

    Thanks for the effort.

    Sam
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,948 moderator
    edited December 26, 2004
    dkapp wrote:
    Nice shots Sam. I don't have a polarizer either, but I guess this is more reason to get one now.

    How far of a drive is this from SFO? I'm going to put a thread together in our photo group forums.

    Dave
    What's most interesting about Hakone is that it was not destroyed during
    WWII (many other gardens were). Hakone Gardens is located on Highway
    9 just outside of Saratoga.

    Beside Golden Gate Park, I know of one other Japanese garden in San Mateo's
    Central Park.

    Sam, nice work. I especially like the water fall shot.

    ian
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