Twilight portraits

chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
edited November 20, 2006 in People
I'm looking to use my auxilary off camera flash to do a portrait for class at 7 o'clock at night; so almost pitch black with winter lurking around the corner here in michigan.

I want to capture a slight hint of the background; but this will be out on a farm with probably zero ambient light. I know i'll have to drag the shutter. I guess I could light things with my car headlights.

Anyone want to offer creative suggestions that I might not be able to think of?
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Chris
Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
Canon 10D | 20D | 5D

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  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    As you may read in many other threads about using flash in those conditions, I'd say it's all about your style.

    Anyway, reading what you wrote, I'd start with my D200 @ 200 iso, SB800 at 1/4 + diffuser, and speed like 1/30, aperture around 5.6, maybe, so I can keep some background.

    It would be a starting point to me…
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited November 18, 2006
    like the idea of the headights-

    what about from the side or back-

    anyway, please post when you get it done-
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Oh, and I'm thinking: have a few tests before the night you'll shoot for real, so we can comment about it thumb.gif
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Thanks for the comments.

    I'll post them on smugmug when I can.
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
  • OwenOwen Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Headlights throw a lot less light than you think.. I've tried it a few times.
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Owen wrote:
    Headlights throw a lot less light than you think.. I've tried it a few times.

    Even on the brightest setting?
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    chrisjlee wrote:
    Even on the brightest setting?

    try it :)
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    AntoineD wrote:
    try it :)

    Of course. I'll try to bring more cars then.
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    chrisjlee wrote:
    Of course. I'll try to bring more cars then.

    Maybe a truck, too :D
    They got big headlights.
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • OwenOwen Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Yeah, and it's hardly flattering light. Good as a "model light" to help focus, but not as a primary.
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Well, Terry Richardson's using a point & shoot yashica… so why not some car's beam as primary lights ? :D
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • OwenOwen Registered Users Posts: 948 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Terry Richardson uses a camera-mounted speedlight, afaik.

    And he only gets away with it because he had a famous (and respectable) fashion photographer father. :P

    Owen
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    that helps.

    :D

    Sure, put his photos on flickr randomly… guess he won't win for each.

    'guess I should have a famous father, too :D
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    I put some photos up already. Check them out:




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    full size photos are up here as well as more photos:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjlee/301336001/

    Focusing in the dark was difficult. I ended up not being able to move my car by the bar. I feared getting stuck in the mud. It was raining a bit last night.

    Thanks for all your suggestions and comments.
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited November 19, 2006
    that first one looks great!-

    I'm not clear on what you used for lighting-
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    gefillmore wrote:
    that first one looks great!-
    I'm not clear on what you used for lighting-

    I'm not a master of lighting. I'm far from a canon explorer of light. Just slowly progressively getting there step by step. :o)


    Setup:

    Sigma super dg 500 to camera left. (9 or 10 o clock to subject) set to 1/8 power
    set on optical slave

    Sigma super dg 500 to camera right (3-4 o clock of subject) set to 1/4 power set on optical slave. zoomed in 105mm to give that spot light effect.

    I used my canon 580ex to trigger the flash optically. I don't have the resouces to drop money on pocket wizards yet. I had to borrow that sigma flash actually. Its a friend of mine.

    shot at F5.6 to F8. ISO 400 can't remember which for which image.
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
  • AntoineDAntoineD Registered Users Posts: 393 Major grins
    edited November 20, 2006
    1 & 2 are very nice thumb.gif , though it's too bad the feet's cut on the second one.
    have a quick look at my portfolio (there's a photolog, too) :: (11-07-2006) experiencing a new flash portfolio. What do you think?
  • chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited November 20, 2006
    AntoineD wrote:
    1 & 2 are very nice thumb.gif , though it's too bad the feet's cut on the second one.

    thanks. so true. How unfortunate.
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    Chris
    Detroit Wedding Photography Blog
    Canon 10D | 20D | 5D
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