Anyway i can get a prime wide for the 20/30D

gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
edited November 29, 2006 in Cameras
No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

Anyone know how i go about this ?

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    gus wrote:
    No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

    I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

    I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

    Anyone know how i go about this ?

    Look around for:

    Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
    Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

    Both are outstanding. Here's more:
    http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

    Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com

    And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    Look around for:

    Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
    Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

    Both are outstanding. Here's more:
    http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

    Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com

    And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.
    Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

    Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes ne_nau.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    gus wrote:
    Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

    Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes ne_nau.gif
    AFAIK, there are no other choices, the Canon, the Sigma 12-24 popeye. Well, there is a Zeiss 15 but you'd need to sell a kidney.
  • ChrisJChrisJ Registered Users Posts: 2,164 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.
    Chris
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    ChrisJ wrote:
    Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.
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  • JeffroJeffro Registered Users Posts: 1,941 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    Andy wrote:
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    I agree too, sell that 30D and get a 5D! Heck I'll pay you 2 times what you paid for the 30D. You can double your money! rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif
    Always lurking, sometimes participating. :D
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2006
    All off topic thanks.

    If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

    Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    All off topic thanks.

    If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

    Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?
    not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava lol3.gif
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava lol3.gif
    Just heading down to the shop for a cherry ripe ice-cream actually.
  • MongrelMongrel Registered Users Posts: 622 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

    No
    If every keystroke was a shutter press I'd be a pro by now...
  • Michiel de BriederMichiel de Brieder Registered Users Posts: 864 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    All off topic thanks.

    If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

    Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?
    Gus,

    you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

    Cheers and good luck!
    *In my mind it IS real*
    Michiel de Brieder
    http://www.digital-eye.nl
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Mongrel wrote:
    No
    Thanks mate
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Gus,

    you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

    Cheers and good luck!
    Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested.
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Mongrel wrote:
    No

    8mm/4.0 circular or 15mm/2.8 rectangular fisheye?!

    But then when you correct these fisheyes you'll
    loose quite abit of contrast and sharpness. So its
    not worth it. Go 5D or buy a 200$ wide angle adapter
    for better quality as a corrected fisheye.
    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • Michiel de BriederMichiel de Brieder Registered Users Posts: 864 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested.
    Sure,

    not the best shots I have, but these are the ones I have online:
    San Francisco
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    San Francisco again
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    Scotland - Edinburgh
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    Hooverdam
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    Sequoia Tree, yours truly lying in the dirt :)

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    Hope this helps :D
    *In my mind it IS real*
    Michiel de Brieder
    http://www.digital-eye.nl
  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited November 24, 2006
    the Nikkor 10.5mm DX is an awesome lens.

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    why do you hate Sigma's so much, btw? I've taken a ton of fantastic photos with my Sigma zooms. Aside from my 70-200VR, the Sigma 18-50/2.8 and 100-300/4 (both top shelf EX models, but far le$$ than L or Nikkor AF-S glass) were the best lenses I've ever owned. ne_nau.gif

    they have two offerings,
    diagonal fish:
    http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3279&navigator=4

    circular fish:
    http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3319&navigator=4
    Erik
    moderator of: The Flea Market [ guidelines ]


  • MongrelMongrel Registered Users Posts: 622 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    No Problem...
    gus wrote:
    Thanks mate

    Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

    After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

    I searched for one myself before, and couldn't find *anybody* who made a 'normal' 10mm-12mm prime in a Canon mount.

    It is my understanding that you are not looking for a fisheye, so I didn't bother mentioning them.

    The Canon 14mm f/2.8L is the widest prime I know of in a Canon mount at the moment.

    You asked for 10mm-12mm, I've never seen one.
    If every keystroke was a shutter press I'd be a pro by now...
  • MongrelMongrel Registered Users Posts: 622 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Here's a related discussion...
    over at FM:

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

    Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

    Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
    1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

    Just a thought...
    If every keystroke was a shutter press I'd be a pro by now...
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Mongrel wrote:
    Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

    After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

    .
    Not at all mate...i like direct answers, thats what i wanted. The other info is great also but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.
    but you said you liked that lol3.gif
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    but you said you liked that lol3.gif
    big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_nwm.gif

    Youve been keeping that gif for a long time wanting to use it havnt you ?
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Mongrel wrote:
    over at FM:

    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

    Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

    Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
    1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

    Just a thought...

    Tks ...they had a very interesting link
    http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html
  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited November 24, 2006
    A linkie for Gus

    EDIT: another on the peleng 8mm for mounting to Canon. Make sure you read all three pages of the review, including the de-fishing parts. Note: The newest version of the PTLens plug-in easily supports this lens, correcting for all sorts of fishy problems.
    My Smugmug
    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    gus wrote:
    Tks ...they had a very interesting link
    http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html
    d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail lol3.gif
  • Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Andy wrote:
    d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail lol3.gif

    Reading the linked review, I love this site already. Honest but slightly witty, just how I like it!

    -Matt-
    My first thought is always of light.” – Galen Rowell
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  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2006
    Gus,

    you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

    Cheers and good luck!

    If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
  • Michiel de BriederMichiel de Brieder Registered Users Posts: 864 Major grins
    edited November 29, 2006
    Red Bull wrote:
    If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)
    Hiya 'Bull

    not any time soon mwink.gif

    cheers mate
    *In my mind it IS real*
    Michiel de Brieder
    http://www.digital-eye.nl
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