I don't know what your background is, but 2 of our computer services guys both do not like ZA. Apparently, it is no more powerful than WinXP, it learns too much and is much too susceptible to people clicking "allow" for everything. WindowsFirewall doesn't give you as much "deciding power", which I think for the common user is a good thing - unless you just make a clear habit of denying all.
Just my .002, or at least a warning to educate yourself before using ZA.
I appreciate the caution/caring. Since 1978, I'm mostly software/database engineering and enough networking background to keep my head above water at work and keep my wireless home network of 5+/- computers locked down (to the extent that it's possible to lock-down a home wireless network), up and running, and free of virus/trojan horses, etc. I am by no means an expert on any of the above. There's a guy here who does system administration that I hold in awe.
You're absolutely correct about the shortcommings of ZA. If you don't know what is causing the issue or, like my better half, have no interest/ability to learn, then some other solution will be a better fit. It is, like I said above, the only firewall I know of that will alert on unrecognized out-bound traffic. I think, maybe, Black Ice Defender (if they are still around, I don't know) also alerts on unrecognized out-bound traffic.
During the normal course of the day, I use the "Deny All" stance. One exception to this would be during a software install or Windows upgrade. I know some who will disable the AV engine during these processes. I keep them running. If the install fails, then I will disable the engine and try again. Otherwise, a one-time "accept" on configuration changes and deny to outbound traffic will get the software installed without the software "phoning home." If needs be, I can do a "Accept this time only" for registration processes to get through that step.
OTOH, I understand the firewall coming out with Vista is going to be much better, but I haven't read much on that yet.
The above works (and has worked for a number of years), but YMMV.
You're absolutely correct about the shortcommings of ZA. If you don't know what is causing the issue or, like my better half, have no interest/ability to learn, then some other solution will be a better fit.
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As the saying goes..."ALL GOOD THING MUST COME TO AN END"....This showed up on my screen about 2 months ago and i dismissed it...then THIS thread got started and I could not find anything about AVG no longer being free after 15 of Jan...this just poped up about 10 minutes ago during a Yahoo IM update..so I thought I should revive this thread....
For those of you using AVG (as I was also using their free gift), head on over to AVAST,,..... I have running both for over 2 years at the same time on same pc...with my experience this is whgat I have found to be true for me:
1- Norton (symentech (sp bad iknow) made machine run real slow and the live updates were worthless...however the intelligent udates (manual) were extremely better....BUT
2- AVG was much better, didn't bog down the machines that I had it installed on at Wichita State....yes yes I know... no commerical or academia use only personal...well I thought it better if the work computer got infected than my home pc....
3- then was told about avast (from an expat in Czech Republic) so I loaded it and found it to be a tad better than AVG...it(Avast) caught a few viruses that ot by AVG and it ran together...so Norton was ditched and I had the Czech team Running the Performance Facilities Computers at Wichita State and also my home machine.....
Of course neither Avg nor Avast! give you all your controls for free so depending on your demands for safety and convience is what decides whether to pay for the security and unfortunately none of them are perfect.....
Don't panic. Unless I am missing something, all this is saying is that you need to upgrade to 7.5, which is available for free. I got that same screen about a month ago and was able to download and install 7.5. I did have a minor problem that required re-entering some config stuff for my email scanner, but have had no problem since. Now it's true that I didn't even glance at the EULA--life is too short for that nonsense. If this thing just stops working on Jan.15 I'm going to be rather pissed. However, my impression is that AVG will continue to offer its free edition while simultaneously offering enhanced products for money. If I am mistaken, then I gather that AVAST is about as good, and I would switch.
Of course neither Avg nor Avast! give you all your controls for free so depending on your demands for safety and convience is what decides whether to pay for the security and unfortunately none of them are perfect.....
I am gonna miss AVG.....cry:cry
Exactly which is why i run Prevx1 right along beside Avast.
Don't panic. Unless I am missing something, all this is saying is that you need to upgrade to 7.5, which is available for free. I got that same screen about a month ago and was able to download and install 7.5. I did have a minor problem that required re-entering some config stuff for my email scanner, but have had no problem since. Now it's true that I didn't even glance at the EULA--life is too short for that nonsense. If this thing just stops working on Jan.15 I'm going to be rather pissed. However, my impression is that AVG will continue to offer its free edition while simultaneously offering enhanced products for money. If I am mistaken, then I gather that AVAST is about as good, and I would switch.
Cheers,
You are correct!
Just updating their search engine to 7.5....there will still be a FREE version of 7.5.
Only thing dying is the 7.1 search engine versions.
You are correct!
Just updating their search engine to 7.5....there will still be a FREE version of 7.5.
Only thing dying is the 7.1 search engine versions.
Yup, I downloaded 7.5 for both of my computers. Still free!
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You're absolutely correct about the shortcommings of ZA. If you don't know what is causing the issue or, like my better half, have no interest/ability to learn, then some other solution will be a better fit. It is, like I said above, the only firewall I know of that will alert on unrecognized out-bound traffic. I think, maybe, Black Ice Defender (if they are still around, I don't know) also alerts on unrecognized out-bound traffic.
During the normal course of the day, I use the "Deny All" stance. One exception to this would be during a software install or Windows upgrade. I know some who will disable the AV engine during these processes. I keep them running. If the install fails, then I will disable the engine and try again. Otherwise, a one-time "accept" on configuration changes and deny to outbound traffic will get the software installed without the software "phoning home." If needs be, I can do a "Accept this time only" for registration processes to get through that step.
OTOH, I understand the firewall coming out with Vista is going to be much better, but I haven't read much on that yet.
The above works (and has worked for a number of years), but YMMV.
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As the saying goes..."ALL GOOD THING MUST COME TO AN END"....This showed up on my screen about 2 months ago and i dismissed it...then THIS thread got started and I could not find anything about AVG no longer being free after 15 of Jan...this just poped up about 10 minutes ago during a Yahoo IM update..so I thought I should revive this thread....
For those of you using AVG (as I was also using their free gift), head on over to AVAST,,..... I have running both for over 2 years at the same time on same pc...with my experience this is whgat I have found to be true for me:
1- Norton (symentech (sp bad iknow) made machine run real slow and the live updates were worthless...however the intelligent udates (manual) were extremely better....BUT
2- AVG was much better, didn't bog down the machines that I had it installed on at Wichita State....yes yes I know... no commerical or academia use only personal...well I thought it better if the work computer got infected than my home pc....
3- then was told about avast (from an expat in Czech Republic) so I loaded it and found it to be a tad better than AVG...it(Avast) caught a few viruses that ot by AVG and it ran together...so Norton was ditched and I had the Czech team Running the Performance Facilities Computers at Wichita State and also my home machine.....
Of course neither Avg nor Avast! give you all your controls for free so depending on your demands for safety and convience is what decides whether to pay for the security and unfortunately none of them are perfect.....
I am gonna miss AVG.....
Don't panic. Unless I am missing something, all this is saying is that you need to upgrade to 7.5, which is available for free. I got that same screen about a month ago and was able to download and install 7.5. I did have a minor problem that required re-entering some config stuff for my email scanner, but have had no problem since. Now it's true that I didn't even glance at the EULA--life is too short for that nonsense. If this thing just stops working on Jan.15 I'm going to be rather pissed. However, my impression is that AVG will continue to offer its free edition while simultaneously offering enhanced products for money. If I am mistaken, then I gather that AVAST is about as good, and I would switch.
Cheers,
Exactly which is why i run Prevx1 right along beside Avast.
You are correct!
Just updating their search engine to 7.5....there will still be a FREE version of 7.5.
Only thing dying is the 7.1 search engine versions.
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Yup, I downloaded 7.5 for both of my computers. Still free!
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