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AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
edited January 19, 2005 in The Big Picture
well, i did it. i purchased a power mac. the 2.5ghz big-boy, and the 30" cinema display :lust :lust :lust

i saved a ton of money 11389300-Ti.gif11389300-Ti.gif, if anyone's interested, just pm me. oh and i'm buying the ram from crucial not apple, that also saves about $500 or so.

dave, you owe fish $1 payable in coin of the realm :lol3

a very sincere thank-you to pathfinder, dkapp, patch, fish, davidto, tmlphoto, lynnsite, cmr, david_s85, sam, pyogenes (stay away from alienware!), dj, pdg, mhjs, rutt (that ibm display is so cool!), ian and rob...

and i cannot forget gubbs, humungus and sid for heckling me from the sidelines 11416929-Ti.gif

in this very long thread where i tried to make up my mind.

enjoy (switching brands after twenty years) photography,
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Ooh, you went for the big display! Congratulations, Andy, way to go!
    Sid.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    Ooh, you went for the big display! Congratulations, Andy, way to go!


    yeah, you really like throwing my cash into that fire, dontcha? lol3.gif
  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Well it's about time! clap.gif


    Congrats...yer gonna love it. nod.gif
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    andy wrote:
    well, i did it. i purchased a power mac. the 2.5ghz big-boy, and the 30" cinema display iloveyou.gifiloveyou.gifiloveyou.gif

    i saved a ton of money 11389300-Ti.gif11389300-Ti.gif, if anyone's interested, just pm me. oh and i'm buying the ram from crucial not apple, that also saves about $500 or so.

    dave, you owe fish $1 payable in coin of the realm lol3.gif

    a very sincere thank-you to pathfinder, dkapp, patch, fish, davidto, tmlphoto, lynnsite, cmr, david_s85, sam, pyogenes (stay away from alienware!), dj, pdg, mhjs, rutt (that ibm display is so cool!), ian and rob...

    and i cannot forget gubbs, humungus and sid for heckling me from the sidelines 11416929-Ti.gif

    in this very long thread where i tried to make up my mind.

    enjoy (switching brands after twenty years) photography,

    Very, very cool. Congratulations. That's a wonderful set-up. Just remember, you didn't switch, you upgraded to a Mac! ;)

    Here's my $.02 on the care and feeding of your Macintosh. Those steps should keep you trouble free and happily computing.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    two questions
    thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

    1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

    2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    andy wrote:
    thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

    1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

    2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?

    You'll have to wait for someone else who upgraded to Mac to help you with those, I'm afraid. I can help you with most thing Mac, but I have little knowledge about that stuff.

    Lynnesite can also answer those kinds of questions.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Have you actually taken posession of it?
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Welcome to the 5%
    I can't believe you were brave enough to get a Mac!!!!!! I'm so proud of you clap.gif

    Let's see a photo of this setup when you have it all together. My daughter got her Mac and 23 inch display through the friends and family discount plan! :-)

    See, now you have the best of both worlds! -- Oh, and why not get Virtual PC for your Mac so you can salvage some of your PC software, or keep your favorites until you discover new Mac programs. With your super power and speed the slower Virtual PC probably won't be noticed...

    Congratulations! And I hope you learn to love your Mac.

    Sorry I can't help you with any of the technical stuff since I've only ever had Macs in my family, but I'm sure others will be able to help out. Oh, and don't forget the Mac forum on PC review, they are a very helpful bunch and can answer some of your questions, I'm sure.

    Andy with a Mac?

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Dee wrote:
    I can't believe you were brave enough to get a Mac!!!!!! I'm so proud of you clap.gif

    Let's see a photo of this setup when you have it all together. My daughter got her Mac and 23 inch display through the friends and family discount plan! :-)

    See, now you have the best of both worlds! -- Oh, and why not get Virtual PC for your Mac so you can salvage some of your PC software, or keep your favorites until you discover new Mac programs. With your super power and speed the slower Virtual PC probably won't be noticed...

    Congratulations! And I hope you learn to love your Mac.

    Sorry I can't help you with any of the technical stuff since I've only ever had Macs in my family, but I'm sure others will be able to help out. Oh, and don't forget the Mac forum on PC review, they are a very helpful bunch and can answer some of your questions, I'm sure.

    Andy with a Mac?

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    Stay away from VPC. From what I hear it's nothing but headaches, and opens your Mac (at least the VPC part) to the same attacks that plague peecees.
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Even behind the firewall?
    DavidTO wrote:
    Stay away from VPC. From what I hear it's nothing but headaches, and opens your Mac (at least the VPC part) to the same attacks that plague peecees.

    I haven't used Virtual PC in years and am not sure how the Mac firewall would work with it -- protects it or not?

    If Andy were just using software on it, and not getting e-mail, would he still be vulnerable?

    Personally, I think going cold turkey is best -- just use the Mac -- but it's a huge transition so I thought VPC would help in the transition. Didn't intend to give bad advice.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    Have you actually taken posession of it?

    nah, apple's gotta build it i guess, takes 1-2 wks, that's okay. i'm in london this coming week and then california the week after, so i won't have time to mess with it until janaury 16th anyhow :D
  • luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Where in CA will you be? I want to push you in the water. I mean I want to shwo you where I work near the water. :D
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    luckyrwe wrote:
    Where in CA will you be? I want to push you in the water. I mean I want to shwo you where I work near the water. :D

    silicon valley, mostly. los gatos area.

    and, lol3.gif
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 2, 2005
    andy wrote:
    thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

    1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

    2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?


    I always kept an external CD with a copy of my favorites and cookies from Windows Internet Explorer in the XP world..

    You can export them from IE in XP by clicking File>Import and Export> which gets you to the Wizard and then it is just a matter of exporting your favorites and your cookies to a CDR.

    When you get your Mac you can then import the favorites into Safari or Firefox. I downloaded Firefox from Mozilla.org for the Mac and imported my favorites and cookies into it. I left Safari bare with only the new favorites I am adding in the MAC world. That's just the way I do it, but there are lots of others I am sure.

    Congratulations and welcome aboard Matey thumb.gif

    Apple hard drives are formatted with HFS+. If your external drive is Fat32 OS X 10.3 should be able to read it. It wil not read NTFS I think. I just use a seperate backup drive for the Win XP machine and keep the LaCie for the mac.
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  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    andy wrote:
    silicon valley, mostly. los gatos area.

    and, lol3.gif

    details...we need details. i would love an opportunity to get some candids of you embarrassing yourself. Oops...I meant I would love an opportunity to capture your inner beauty in a set of flattering portraits. :D
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    fish wrote:
    details...we need details. i would love an opportunity to get some candids of you embarrassing yourself. Oops...I meant I would love an opportunity to capture your inner beauty in a set of flattering portraits. :D

    i'm really slammed for the week but i expect to get out on monday night 1/10 and shoot with steve, and eat dinner. hell, we usually just eat, b/c it's so damn dark :D

    one plan, if i'm lucky, i'm free at 3pm and we haul butt up to the city. innerested????
  • lynnesitelynnesite Registered Users Posts: 747 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    I always kept an external CD with a copy of my favorites and cookies from Windows Internet Explorer in the XP world..

    You can export them from IE in XP by clicking File>Import and Export> which gets you to the Wizard and then it is just a matter of exporting your favorites and your cookies to a CDR.

    When you get your Mac you can then import the favorites into Safari or Firefox. I downloaded Firefox from Mozilla.org for the Mac and imported my favorites and cookies into it. I left Safari bare with only the new favorites I am adding in the MAC world. That's just the way I do it, but there are lots of others I am sure.

    Congratulations and welcome aboard Matey thumb.gif .

    Yep, let me add my voice to the chorus--I helped my client order just that setup today, with 4 gb of RAM.

    Safari import--yeah, export your favorites to favorites.html. On the Mac, open Internet Explorer, show favorites, file/import and add them.

    The first time you open Safari, it looks for and imports IE favorites. They're stored in a bookmarks folder called "Imported IE Favorites". If you want to do this later and have opened Safari already, go to Users/you/Library/Preferences and kill the Safari.plist file.

    Path's idea sounds pretty good though.

    Lynne

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  • dkappdkapp Registered Users Posts: 985 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    Very very cool andy clap.gif

    Fish:
    Lets go to Starbucks, my treat. Looks like I owe you a dollar :D

    Dave
  • luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2005
    I work that weekend. :cry
  • PerezDesignGroupPerezDesignGroup Registered Users Posts: 395 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2005
    Great news, Andy. I know you won't regret it thumb.gif
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited January 3, 2005
    I went to the Apple store today to look at a few machines. I was kinda shocked at the premium you pay for upgrades from the basic models on display.

    I looked at the G5's and the powerbooks. Out of curiosity, I opened an image
    of a polar bear, re-sized to 2000 px then applied a 100% spin radial blur using
    the "best" setting. All I can say is that the lowest end box I looked at makes
    my PC look dog slow (it is).

    Not sure when I'll pull the trigger but it's probably going to be soon. I want to
    confirm that the PS license transfers. Some time back, I'd heard that once you
    activate the PC version, you could not exchange it for a mac verison.

    One other thing I noticed is that certain image manipulation programs offer
    better color control on the mac platform (C1).


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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2005
    fish wrote:
    Well it's about time! clap.gif

    Congrats...yer gonna love it. nod.gif

    i sure hope so :D

    thanks for your help
  • lynnesitelynnesite Registered Users Posts: 747 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2005
    ian408 wrote:
    I went to the Apple store today to look at a few machines. I was kinda shocked at the premium you pay for upgrades from the basic models on display.

    I looked at the G5's and the powerbooks. Out of curiosity, I opened an image
    of a polar bear, re-sized to 2000 px then applied a 100% spin radial blur using
    the "best" setting. All I can say is that the lowest end box I looked at makes
    my PC look dog slow (it is).

    Not sure when I'll pull the trigger but it's probably going to be soon. I want to
    confirm that the PS license transfers. Some time back, I'd heard that once you
    activate the PC version, you could not exchange it for a mac verison.

    One other thing I noticed is that certain image manipulation programs offer
    better color control on the mac platform (C1).


    Ian

    I always tell my clients to get the "middle" of the three towers usually offered. The machines on display may not have additional RAM, and some of those powerbooks come with only 256! You know how that wouldn't work so well with PS.

    According to Adobe's site they are cross-platform exchangeable.

    Lynne
    and the entry level aluminum G4 PB w/ 1 GHz & CS
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited January 3, 2005
    lynnesite wrote:
    I always tell my clients to get the "middle" of the three towers usually offered. The machines on display may not have additional RAM, and some of those powerbooks come with only 256! You know how that wouldn't work so well with PS.

    According to Adobe's site they are cross-platform exchangeable.

    Lynne
    and the entry level aluminum G4 PB w/ 1 GHz & CS
    I made another pilgrimage to the holy shrine today and I guess I wasn't
    wearing the requisite black clothing or maybe it was the baseball cap?
    Couldn't get anyone to help me if I beat them with my wallet. Seriously.
    Even after I asked. I must have waited about 15-20 minutes before leaving.
    Needless to say, I won't be buying a mac from the mac store as that was
    one of the worst shopping experiences I've had recently.

    Anyway, there are cards next to each machine with three or four options.
    Instead of choosing from the list, I think they encourage you use the configuration tool on the website (how to up-sell 101). There are more
    options available to you than the card. Plus you get the latest list of
    available stuff--so this would seem to be an advantage.

    I'll shop around a bit for a better price (we have a employee purchase
    agreement with a couple of vendors that are good for 10% or so).

    Thanks for the PS update! That's the one thing I can cross off the list.

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 3, 2005
    ian408 wrote:
    I made another pilgrimage to the holy shrine today and I guess I wasn't
    wearing the requisite black clothing or maybe it was the baseball cap?
    Couldn't get anyone to help me if I beat them with my wallet. Seriously.
    Even after I asked. I must have waited about 15-20 minutes before leaving.
    Needless to say, I won't be buying a mac from the mac store as that was
    one of the worst shopping experiences I've had recently.

    Hang in there Ian. I did the radial blur filter that you describe on the FMiranda website. My time was 20 seconds. Dual processors rock!

    I am sorry that you had that experience. I had just the opposite in Indianapolis. A young man spent almost an hour and a half answering my questions and finally told me that the configuration of a G5 that I wanted was not available in the store and suggested that I order it online which is what I did. I suggest reviewing the options online at apple.com rather than taking something off the shelf unless you get a lot better price or something. Apple does give discounts to students and to teachers.
    Anyway, there are cards next to each machine with three or four options. Instead of choosing from the list, I think they encourage you use the configuration tool on the website (how to up-sell 101). There are more
    options available to you than the card. Plus you get the latest list of
    available stuff--so this would seem to be an advantage.

    Like I said above. The stores tend to have the basic configurations in stock and if you want the RAM maxxed or the Hard drives raided I think you are better off online. The stores are a good resource for information. Usually. The Indy store has presentations almost every day - I wish I was closer to Indy to take advantage of their presentations, they seem quite helpful to newbies and to old pros.
    I'll shop around a bit for a better price (we have a employee purchase
    agreement with a couple of vendors that are good for 10% or so).

    Thanks for the PS update! That's the one thing I can cross off the list.

    Ian

    When I spoke to Adobe support for my MAC version, they asked me if I wanted to transfer my XP license to MAC and I told them that I still wanted to use it on my laptop. If/When I buy a G5 Powerbook I plan on swapping my license to the MAC then.
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited January 3, 2005
    Thanks PF!

    I sure hope my experince is unusual. But as I said, there are several
    options. Including, gulp, Fry's :D

    Ian
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  • lynnesitelynnesite Registered Users Posts: 747 Major grins
    edited January 3, 2005
    ian408 wrote:
    Thanks PF!

    I sure hope my experince is unusual. But as I said, there are several
    options. Including, gulp, Fry's :D

    Ian

    Don't go to Frys. The guy that sells you the mac may have sold shoes yesterday. And they don't stock many configs.

    That's an atypical Apple store experience; their satisfaction rate is quite good from buyer reports. I met a customer there before Christmas to buy an iMac G5 and iPod, and had a good experience as usual.

    Have bought 90+ percent of the Macs from Mac Zone, dealing with a corporate rep the whole time, as a way to not pay retail on anything except the Apple-branded stuff, and to get better customer support. It was really great in the years that they didn't charge sales tax! :-)

    Lynne
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,938 moderator
    edited January 4, 2005
    lynnesite wrote:
    Don't go to Frys. The guy that sells you the mac may have sold shoes yesterday. And they don't stock many configs.
    Once you know what you want, where it comes from is irrelevant :D But then
    again, I hate Fry's and really only go when I have to.
    lynnesite wrote:
    That's an atypical Apple store experience; their satisfaction rate is quite good from buyer reports. I met a customer there before Christmas to buy an iMac G5 and iPod, and had a good experience as usual.
    That's good to hear. Maybe I should look for another one?

    Thanks again for the help!

    Ian
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 16, 2005
    apple emailed me, it's on it's way. i should be happily appling by the end of the week clap.gif
  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2005
    andy wrote:
    apple emailed me, it's on it's way. i should be happily appling by the end of the week clap.gif

    Woo-Hoo, party at Casa de Andy this weekend. clap.gif
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