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serious issue with getting paid from photo profits from Smugmug?

rosselliotrosselliot Registered Users Posts: 702 Major grins
edited December 21, 2006 in SmugMug Pro Sales Support
okay, so here is my problem, I'm 17, and I'm a dependant and listed under my mom and dad's household, and don't make enough with my photo business to actually file income tax...so how am I supposed to fill out the form that they want us to send in before they write us a check for the profits we've made by selling my photos?!

PLEASE help me with this, I'd REALLY REALLY appreciate some knowledgeable advice!

Thanks!!!!

- RE
www.rossfrazier.com
www.rossfrazier.com/blog

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Canon EOS 5D w/ battery grip
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2006
    rosselliot wrote:
    okay, so here is my problem, I'm 17, and I'm a dependant and listed under my mom and dad's household, and don't make enough with my photo business to actually file income tax...so how am I supposed to fill out the form that they want us to send in before they write us a check for the profits we've made by selling my photos?!

    PLEASE help me with this, I'd REALLY REALLY appreciate some knowledgeable advice!

    Thanks!!!!

    - RE
    Ross, it's pretty simple: you MUST fill out a W-9 form before we can send you any profits. It's an IRS regulation. We just report the income to the IRS, and follow the rules.

    Link: http://www.smugmug.com/help/reporting

    If you have any other questions, just holler, we'll be here!
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    rosselliotrosselliot Registered Users Posts: 702 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2006
    and then the IRS will recognize my social security number as that of a dependant and realize that I haven't filed for income tax before and realize I don't make enough...or do I have to fill out some other form before W-9 is sent....I think the problem may be that I'm not even going to be in their system, right?
    www.rossfrazier.com
    www.rossfrazier.com/blog

    My Equipment:
    Canon EOS 5D w/ battery grip
    Backup Canon EOS 30D | Canon 28 f/1.8 | Canon 24 f/1.4L Canon 50mm f/1.4 | Sigma 50mm f/2.8 EX DI Macro | Canon 70-200 F/2.8 L | Canon 580 EX II Flash and Canon 550 EX Flash
    Apple MacBook Pro with dual 24" monitors
    Domke F-802 bag and a Shootsac by Jessica Claire
    Infiniti QX4
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited December 20, 2006
    rosselliot wrote:
    and then the IRS will recognize my social security number as that of a dependant and realize that I haven't filed for income tax before and realize I don't make enough...or do I have to fill out some other form before W-9 is sent....I think the problem may be that I'm not even going to be in their system, right?
    You will have to discuss that with an accountant, your parents, or www.irs.gov. I wish I had a better answer for you, but we can't and don't give tax advice, sorry - we just follow the rules of the IRS.
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    SteveMSteveM Registered Users Posts: 482 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2006
    Following Andy's lead, this is NOT tax advice :D but you're not required to file a tax return if you make under x dollars per year.

    My suggestion to you is, being that you are a dependant, have one of your parents fill out the W9 and submit it, problem solved. Unless you're making 5 grand a year off of Smugmug, they'll pay a pittance in taxes on it and everyone should be happy. I assume the subscription to Smugmug is being paid through one of their credit cards, anyhow.

    Good luck! I hope you don't go to Federal prison! KIDDING!
    Steve Mills
    BizDev Account Manager
    Image Specialist & Pro Concierge

    http://www.downriverphotography.com
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    Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2006
    I really don't want to sound harsh, but...

    The only advice worth anything is that which you receive from a working and paid professional.

    If you're running a business (yes, I know you're still in High School, but younger folk have made millions before they graduate from HS), then run it like a business. Find a good accountant, pay the $100 for a short interview and go in with a prioritized list of questions. Get the authoritative answers and keep on keepin' on (oh, and continue shooting!!).
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    rosselliotrosselliot Registered Users Posts: 702 Major grins
    edited December 21, 2006
    thanks, guys! I'll get dad to call our accountant and see what we should do. I didn't know it would be complicated...but of course, we ARE talking about the US government, don't know where I figured it'd be easy. :)

    - RE
    www.rossfrazier.com
    www.rossfrazier.com/blog

    My Equipment:
    Canon EOS 5D w/ battery grip
    Backup Canon EOS 30D | Canon 28 f/1.8 | Canon 24 f/1.4L Canon 50mm f/1.4 | Sigma 50mm f/2.8 EX DI Macro | Canon 70-200 F/2.8 L | Canon 580 EX II Flash and Canon 550 EX Flash
    Apple MacBook Pro with dual 24" monitors
    Domke F-802 bag and a Shootsac by Jessica Claire
    Infiniti QX4
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