New Monitor - Lacie 22"

wxwax · February 14, 2004

I've gone and done it. After a few weeks of hanging around ebay, I decided I wasn't going to get a much better price than retail. So I've ordered a Lacie Electronblue 22" monitor. Should be here in a week or so.

During this process, I've come to a conclusion.

People who are developing web applications seem to do so with the cutting edge in mind. They assume everyone has a fast connection, Flash, a good monitor, etc.

I've noticed almost an arrogance about this. As though these were the minimum requirements. And that if you don't have these tools, then you're deficient. Whereas the reality, of course, is that more people are using dialup than broadband. And that more people have bad monitors than good ones. I've observed the latter firsthand recently, looking at photos on various monitors, at home and at work. It's amazing how poorly almost all of them display colors and light intensity.

I decry the arrogance I see.

I know that I'm getting a good monitor so that I can satisfy myself that I'm doing the right thing with my photos in Photoshop. But I'm under no illusion that the majority of the people who view them on the web will have the experience I intend. I can accept that. Without the arrogance displayed by those who work on web applications.

fish · February 14, 2004

So people should be writing stuff in COBOL for monochrome monitors running off 640x480 VGA cards and 386 CPUs?

wxwax · February 15, 2004

Sure, that's exactly what I said. Vroom, that sound was the point going over yer head. :whip

fish · February 15, 2004

would you buy radio shack speakers for your McIntosh amp?

wxwax · February 15, 2004

It's not a matter of whether or not I would. It's a matter of how many other people do. And the answer is.... lots.

fish · February 15, 2004

wxwax wrote:

It's not a matter of whether or not I would. It's a matter of how many other people do. And the answer is.... lots.

so? should technology wait for the masses to catchup? bah.

wxwax · February 15, 2004

It's not the technology that's the issue.... it's how people choose to apply it.

fish · February 15, 2004

wxwax wrote:

It's not the technology that's the issue.... it's how people choose to apply it.

okay. enough. i have completely lost any point you were trying to make, mr. luddite. :bluduh

cmr164 · February 15, 2004

How about the simple fact that greater than 50% of the net is still 28k-56k dialup and that the web designers are designing pages that only work properly with a broadband connection. I think his point was that as marketeers they are idiots, which I agree with. Even though I have a T1 all to myself, I have flash set to run only if I click it to run. All popups are blocked and 95% of advertising is blocked. I can feel only sympathy for the poor buggers running IE on a dialup Wintel box.

wxwax · February 15, 2004

fish wrote:

okay. enough. i have completely lost any point you were trying to make, mr. luddite. :bluduh

You never got it in the first place. 's OK, after all, that's the point.

patch29 · February 20, 2004

So did it arrive? Can I come borrow it for a little while?

I want to make sure it is properly calibrated.

wxwax · February 20, 2004

Not here yet. I thought it might arrive by today. Hopefully it will make it in the next couple of days.

fish · February 21, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Not here yet. I thought it might arrive by today. Hopefully it will make it in the next couple of days.

Where did you buy it? No UPS tracking number?

wxwax · February 21, 2004

Sure, I could track it, just haven't bothered to. It will get here when it gets here.

komet · February 21, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Sure, I could track it, just haven't bothered to. It will get here when it gets here.

Glad you got a new monitor, Waxie...but, fish did kinda spank you pretty good.

wxwax · February 21, 2004

Troublemaker.

wxwax · February 27, 2004

Well, the new monitor's here, installed and looking.... large. I'm getting a good sun tan sitting in front of I must say. I'll post a photo when I get my camera back upstairs. Next up... making sure it's properly calibrated.

komet · February 27, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Well, the new monitor's here, installed and looking.... large. I'm getting a good sun tan sitting in front of I must say. I'll post a photo when I get my camera back upstairs. Next up... making sure it's properly calibrated.

You're slowly getting out of the dark ages...cable modem...new monitor...what next?

wxwax · February 27, 2004

A mate?

DoctorIt · February 27, 2004

cmr164 wrote:

How about the simple fact that greater than 50% of the net is still 28k-56k dialup and that the web designers are designing pages that only work properly with a broadband connection. I think his point was that as marketeers they are idiots, which I agree with. Even though I have a T1 all to myself, I have flash set to run only if I click it to run. All popups are blocked and 95% of advertising is blocked. I can feel only sympathy for the poor buggers running IE on a dialup Wintel box.

I was thinking the same thing - I've always designed my websites on the simple side realizing that half the people (usually in the clubs I've made the sites for) won't have badass connections. But fish also has a good point, should we wait for everyone to catch up?

Nevermind though, this was really a thread about Waxy's cool new monitor. Congrats man!

wxwax · February 27, 2004

It is cool, thanks. WRT web development... no-one builds the car they think is best, and then waits for the market to catch-up to them. They build the car they think will sell. Oddly, that's not how many, perhaps most, websites operate.

cletus · March 5, 2004

wxwax wrote:

I'll post a photo when I get my camera back upstairs.

Where are our pictures waxy???

By the way... I've got a LaCie 22" on order now. They're backorderd so I probably wont see it for another couple weeks :cry

wxwax · March 5, 2004

cletus wrote:

Where are our pictures waxy???

By the way... I've got a LaCie 22" on order now. They're backorderd so I probably wont see it for another couple weeks :cry

Ooh, thanks for ther reminder. I'll take some late tonight and post them after everyone's gone to bed.

wxwax · March 6, 2004

Everyone asleep? Good. Here's the monitor. I'm undecided about putting on the hood. And I'm still looking around for a calibration tool. I'm thinking about the GretaMacbeth Eye One, which is "only" $240 for the monitor calibrator.

fish · March 6, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Everyone asleep? Good. Here's the monitor. I'm undecided about putting on the hood. And I'm still looking around for a calibration tool. I'm thinking about the GretaMacbeth Eye One, which is "only" $240 for the monitor calibrator.

you got rooked. there's less than half a screen showing up there.

Seriously...nice monitor, but holy cow...that's a small workstation. How close is your face to the monitor?

komet · March 6, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Everyone asleep? Good. Here's the monitor. I'm undecided about putting on the hood. And I'm still looking around for a calibration tool. I'm thinking about the GretaMacbeth Eye One, which is "only" $240 for the monitor calibrator.

That seems ridiculous to spend that kind of money to calibrate your monitor. Is it broke already? Take the money and get you a nice printer or something...or better yet...send it to the komet foundation.

wxwax · March 6, 2004

fish wrote:

you got rooked. there's less than half a screen showing up there.

Seriously...nice monitor, but holy cow...that's a small workstation. How close is your face to the monitor?

I'm not saying my face is close to the monitor... but my neck gets sore as I have to constantly turn my head as I read across lines of copy. Actually, there's a desk to the right of the shot... and an unholy mess just outside the frame.

wxwax · March 6, 2004

komet wrote:

That seems ridiculous to spend that kind of money to calibrate your monitor. Is it broke already? Take the money and get you a nice printer or something...or better yet...send it to the komet foundation.

At first, I agreed with you. But now $240 looks cheap. And since I care very much that I get it right when I adjust my photos,,,and $240 isn't that much compared to the cost of like everything else

in this game, suddenly it doesn't seem so outrageous.

Sam · March 6, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Everyone asleep? Good. Here's the monitor. I'm undecided about putting on the hood. And I'm still looking around for a calibration tool. I'm thinking about the GretaMacbeth Eye One, which is "only" $240 for the monitor calibrator.

Congratulations on your new monitor. I have never heard of LaCie. Can you tell me the difference between your LaCie and my ViewSonic. Is this a specialty monitor designed for graphics? Also what screen resolution do you use in PS? If I go to a higher resolution all the menue bars and icons are the size of a dwarf nat. Thanks

wxwax · March 6, 2004

Sam, I have it at 1152x864, 84 megahertz refresh rate. I could make things smaller, but then I'd need glasses. The monitor is designed for color accuracy. How they achieve that, and why it's supposed to be better that your Viewsonic, I can't say. I opted for this on the strength of advice from Patch29, Zero-Zero and a number of favorable reviews.

komet · March 7, 2004

Waxie, it is a nice monitor and I hope you enjoy it.

New Monitor - Lacie 22"

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