Xylotrupes gideon

gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
edited January 13, 2005 in Wildlife
I found this fellow next to my driveway this arvo.


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To give you an idea of scale...he is 2 inches long & can grow to 3. They make a loud squeal if they get annoyed.

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    good one again or two sorry
    OK WHAT the H is a arvo? can you stop talking funny rolleyes1.gif we can see they no bite .on the real side i did not know they are in aussie land . you learned me a lot with the pics and animals .the guy next door is an aussie can't understand him either thanks for all the fun photos and the info my son and i get a heck of a kick out of them clap.gif Jeff
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    jwear wrote:
    OK WHAT the H is a arvo? can you stop talking funny rolleyes1.gif we can see they no bite .on the real side i did not know they are in aussie land . you learned me a lot with the pics and animals .the guy next door is an aussie can't understand him either thanks for all the fun photos and the info my son and i get a heck of a kick out of them clap.gif Jeff
    Sorry mate...arvo means this afternoon. I think rhino beetles are worldwide.
  • MongrelMongrel Registered Users Posts: 622 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Killer shot man,
    killer. thumb.gif

    Very nice macro. Looks like a creature out of Half Life 2.
    If every keystroke was a shutter press I'd be a pro by now...
  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    info
    Whoa! You're thinking...the strongest creature on earth is only a bug that fits in the palm of your hand? What about the largest living land mammal? You'd think something as massive as an elephant would be able to carry way more weight than a little insect. Yes, it's true. An elephant can carry a lot more weight than a rhinoceros beetle, but the definition of strength we're using here is one of proportional strength. A huge African elephant can only carry up to 25% of its own weight on its back. The rhinoceros beetle can carry 850 times its own . found in rain forests all over more info for your great shot mate
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Yep so pound for pound by comparison...a man should be able to lift about a large car & walk with it on his head for a mile.

    Imagine being an ant & looking up at it eek7.gif
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Another excellent macro, man. bowdown.gif Nice stuff. If you get a dSLR, make sure you get a macro lens, you'll feel lost without one.
    Sid.
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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    Another excellent macro, man. bowdown.gif Nice stuff. If you get a dSLR, make sure you get a macro lens, you'll feel lost without one.
    I know that mate...thats 3 lenses i need now. Just been cruising through ebay & i am sooo lost in there. 2 lenses look the same,from the same company but are $1K different eek7.gif

    Where are all your lens sites waxedfruit...come on i know you would have half a dozen bookmarked.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 12, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    I found this fellow next to my driveway this arvo.


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    To give you an idea of scale...he is 2 inches long & can grow to 3. They make a loud squeal if they get annoyed.

    14092207-S.jpg


    I really like the lighting in your first image 'gus. It looks like it was shot with natural light which is difficult when shooting macro sometimes. Did you use any flash for this at all?
    Remember with that macro lens you will also need a flash of some kind, and sometimes you'll want a ring flash too :D And DON"T get the 50mm macro, you won't like it and you'll be back for the 100mm or 180mm versions.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    I know that mate...thats 3 lenses i need now. Just been cruising through ebay & i am sooo lost in there. 2 lenses look the same,from the same company but are $1K different eek7.gif

    Where are all your lens sites waxedfruit...come on i know you would have half a dozen bookmarked.
    i just enter the formal lens name into Google. I always gets links to reviews when i do that.

    For Canon, some lenses get a lot of play, makes it easier. Like, the ones with "L" in their name. naughty.gif
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Rememeber with that macro lens you will also need a flash of some kind, and sometimes you'll want a ring flash too :D And DON"T get the 50mm macro, you won't like it and you'll be back for the 100mm or 180mm versions.
    I haven't shot a lot of macro, but what I have shot has been more than fine without any additional light. ne_nau.gifI I have the 100mm Macro lens.
    Sid.
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    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    I really like the lighting in your first image 'gus. It looks like it was shot with natural light which is difficult when shooting macro sometimes. Did you use any flash for this at all?
    Rememeber with that macro lens you will also need a flash of some kind, and sometimes you'll want a ring flash too :D And DON"T get the 50mm macro, you won't like it and you'll be back for the 100mm or 180mm versions.
    Just natural PF...most of my macro is at 3/4" so as you can imagine the flash is just going to go over the target by 3" if i did use it. It was (why does the font change like that) about 5pm & the light was down low.

    What you can tell me mate is why do they sell a lens as 'Macro' but it is a 105mm ? Wouldn't a Macro be short ? (oh god...now they know just how little i know)

    here is one i found
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30070&item=3865747275&rd=1

    I really need to find a sight that starts at the basics to wxplain the numbers on the lenses.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 12, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    Just natural PF...most of my macro is at 3/4" so as you can imagine the flash is just going to go over the target by 3" if i did use it. It was (why does the font change like that) about 5pm & the light was down low.

    What you can tell me mate is why do they sell a lens as 'Macro' but it is a 105mm ? Wouldn't a Macro be short ? (oh god...now they know just how little i know)

    here is one i found
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30070&item=3865747275&rd=1

    I really need to find a sight that starts at the basics to wxplain the numbers on the lenses.

    'gus - Manufacturers put Macro on any lens that will let you shoot close to the subject and capture an image on film/sensor that is at least 1/2 size of the subject itself. A 2 cm long bug shot with a typical macro would be at least 1 cm long for a 2-1 ratio. Most better macro lenses create images that are 1-1. That 2 cm long roach now is captured on the sensor plane as a 2 cm long image.
    A 50mm lens was the standard focal length for a 35 mm camera, and the early macro lenses were 50 mm lenses that had lens barrels that would extend further and allow closer focusing. Then the manufacturers brought out real 50mm macros - lenses specially designed optically to produce very crisp image at near focal distances eg:less than 10cm in front of the lens frontal element.

    One of the disadvantages of 50 mm macros is that you are very close to your subject. Your Rhino beetle may try to run away when you get close with your camera, but how fast can a beetle run. My butterfies just take off and fly away if I get too close and annoy them. SO a longer telephoto macro lens allows me to shoot from further away and also gives me shallower depth of field to further isolate my subject with a nice blurred background. That is why the 100mm and 180mm macros are more popular. The reason 50mm macros are still used is they are a lot cheaper to make and on a copy stand for copying flat printed material they are easier to use than a longer focal length.

    Most macro shooters in the natural world tend to prefer the longer macro lenses.

    Here is a thread where Andy and I discussed macro equipment
    http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=3131&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Macro+Andy

    And here is another thread where I suggested several ways to enter the world of macro photography inexpensively.
    http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=4745&highlight=Macro+Andy


    Take a look at the macro forum at fredmiranda.com also. An excellent book I have rec'd here in the past is "Macrophotography - Learning from a Master" by Gilles Martin.
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  • TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Awesome - love those shots.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Pathfinder - wow, this is an excellent discussion. Thanks so much!


    'Gus - love the beetle.
    Are you an animated movie fan? I really loved 'Bugs Life' and 'Ants" for completely different reasons!

    ann
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 13, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    'gus - Manufacturers put Macro on any lens that will let you shoot close to the subject and capture an image on film/sensor that is at least 1/2 size of the subject itself. A 2 cm long bug shot with a typical macro would be at least 1 cm long for a 2-1 ratio. Most better macro lenses create images that are 1-1. That 2 cm long roach now is captured on the sensor plane as a 2 cm long image.
    A 50mm lens was the standard focal length for a 35 mm camera, and the early macro lenses were 50 mm lenses that had lens barrels that would extend further and allow closer focusing. Then the manufacturers brought out real 50mm macros - lenses specially designed optically to produce very crisp image at near focal distances eg:less than 10cm in front of the lens frontal element.

    One of the disadvantages of 50 mm macros is that you are very close to your subject. Your Rhino beetle may try to run away when you get close with your camera, but how fast can a beetle run. My butterfies just take off and fly away if I get too close and annoy them. SO a longer telephoto macro lens allows me to shoot from further away and also gives me shallower depth of field to further isolate my subject with a nice blurred background. That is why the 100mm and 180mm macros are more popular. The reason 50mm macros are still used is they are a lot cheaper to make and on a copy stand for copying flat printed material they are easier to use than a longer focal length.

    Most macro shooters in the natural world tend to prefer the longer macro lenses.

    Here is a thread where Andy and I discussed macro equipment
    http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=3131&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Macro+Andy

    And here is another thread where I suggested several ways to enter the world of macro photography inexpensively.
    http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=4745&highlight=Macro+Andy


    Take a look at the macro forum at fredmiranda.com also. An excellent book I have rec'd here in the past is "Macrophotography - Learning from a Master" by Gilles Martin.
    Thanks heaps mate... read 4 times & then once again ! You did help me out here. Ive a lot to learn thats for sure.
  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited January 13, 2005
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Pathfinder - wow, this is an excellent discussion. Thanks so much!


    'Gus - love the beetle.
    Are you an animated movie fan? I really loved 'Bugs Life' and 'Ants" for completely different reasons!

    ann
    I do remember those movies...i am looking really hard at the moment for a giant stick insect. They grow up to a foot long & recon that would be a good macro...can you do a panorama macro ?rolleyes1.gif
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