Mrs Cardinal

lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
edited January 12, 2005 in Wildlife
Mrs cardinal came to my garden this morning.. when I get my NEW LENS I'll be able to take lovely crisp in focus shots I hope, to do them justice.. she's still beautiful even if she is soft...

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  • gubbsgubbs Registered Users Posts: 3,166 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    lynnma wrote:
    Mrs cardinal came to my garden this morning.. when I get my NEW LENS I'll be able to take lovely crisp in focus shots I hope, to do them justice.. she's still beautiful even if she is soft...

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    Stil beautiful, what lens did you get in the end Lynn??
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    gubbs wrote:
    Stil beautiful, what lens did you get in the end Lynn??
    Hi Gubbsy.. none yet.. I'm going to order the Canon 70-200 f/4 but I have to sell this one 75-300 first (trying to be sensible.. it's not working) I've got it on ebay and if it does'nt sell in a few I'll order the other one..

    here's another shot of Mrs. C with a lower ISO.. doh.. shudda checked that..

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  • gubbsgubbs Registered Users Posts: 3,166 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    lynnma wrote:
    Hi Gubbsy.. none yet.. I'm going to order the Canon 70-200 f/4 but I have to sell this one 75-300 first (trying to be sensible.. it's not working) I've got it on ebay and if it does'nt sell in a few I'll order the other one..

    here's another shot of Mrs. C with a lower ISO.. doh.. shudda checked that..

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    I forgot the iso when I was at your castle the other morning, it's very annoying!

    I'm getting urges for a 70-200 too....
  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    Lynn,

    Do you have the EXIF on these. I was wondering why they are soft.

    Shutter speed to slow? Too close to focus?

    I get a lot of soft shots with my lens, but I ussually know why, the shutter speed is too low to avoid camera shake and motion blur from a moving bird. If this is not why yours are soft I was hoping I could help.
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    Lynn,

    Do you have the EXIF on these. I was wondering why they are soft.

    Shutter speed to slow? Too close to focus?

    I get a lot of soft shots with my lens, but I ussually know why, the shutter speed is too low to avoid camera shake and motion blur from a moving bird. If this is not why yours are soft I was hoping I could help.
    Number one very soft.. couldn't find glasses excuses excuses you know them all...
    exif 1/4 sec f14 ISO400 300mm (all these are poor settings in my op)

    Number 2 (slightly better)1/160 f5.6 ISO 200 300mm

    both taken in very dim gray light through glass.. Used the remote and tripod..
  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    lynnma wrote:
    Number one very soft.. couldn't find glasses excuses excuses you know them all...
    exif 1/4 sec f14 ISO400 300mm (all these are poor settings in my op)

    Number 2 (slightly better)1/160 f5.6 ISO 200 300mm

    both taken in very dim gray light through glass.. Used the remote and tripod..

    Well the first one is really not bad for 1/4 second. Small birds move way to often and way to fast for a shutter speed this slow to have any kind of success rate. You could have increased the shutter speed to at least 1/60 just by going to a larger aperature (f/4 probably). 1/60 is still a bit slow for small birds but is going to have a much better percentage than 1/4 sec.

    The second one, the shutter speed looks fast enough. I think the problem here is focus point. I think the sharpest area of the image is all the way in the back of the wingtip. For bird photos to be successful, in general it is important to have the eye in focus. Generally if the eye is sharp and DOF is a little soft in other areas, it is acceptable.

    Thats just my thoughts, I hope they are helpful.
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited January 12, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    Well the first one is really not bad for 1/4 second. Small birds move way to often and way to fast for a shutter speed this slow to have any kind of success rate. You could have increased the shutter speed to at least 1/60 just by going to a larger aperature (f/4 probably). 1/60 is still a bit slow for small birds but is going to have a much better percentage than 1/4 sec.

    The second one, the shutter speed looks fast enough. I think the problem here is focus point. I think the sharpest area of the image is all the way in the back of the wingtip. For bird photos to be successful, in general it is important to have the eye in focus. Generally if the eye is sharp and DOF is a little soft in other areas, it is acceptable.

    Thats just my thoughts, I hope they are helpful.
    Greap you are always helpful.. if you'd have seen the scene this morning?? I'm out in the snow at dawn in jammies and boots throwing out food for the crows and husband of lynnma is frantically waving at the window like a madman.. I'm thinking.. avalanche? mudslide? nuclear holacaust? (can't spell) and it was the cardinal... at the feeder..no wonder the shots are soft.. between that and the fact that I could'nt see.. lost the glasses again it was all lost....better luck next time..

    by the way. I think your evaluation is right on thumb.gif
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