help wheelchair sport photos

magicpic

OK,,,I am really frustrated with these photos..I used a 20D and I tryed the 50mm f1.4 lens and then the 75-300 f4.5 lens, and flash...I tryed to go up to 1600 ISO f.2.5 50mm no flash and they seemed to dark...then I tryed flash and 75.....well nothing worked...the photos are not that sharp..the guy that I bought the camera from had it set on paramerter 2(which I do not know if that is right?)...I left the information open so you could help me...I was wondering would they be sharp and easier to capture if I had an IS like the 70-200 f2.8 lens( Is that my solution?).....please help...I am really trying to learn this skill:cry :cry widget



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ian408

magicpic wrote:

OK,,,I am really frustrated with these photos..I used a 20D and I tryed the 50mm f1.4 lens and then the 75-300 f4.5 lens, and flash...I tryed to go up to 1600 ISO f.2.5 50mm no flash and they seemed to dark...then I tryed flash and 75.....well nothing worked...the photos are not that sharp..the guy that I bought the camera from had it set on paramerter 2(which I do not know if that is right?)...I left the information open so you could help me...I was wondering would they be sharp and easier to capture if I had an IS like the 70-200 f2.8 lens( Is that my solution?).....please help...I am really trying to learn this skill:cry :cry widget



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I think they look OK. You are shooting in a dark gym and short of using
big strobes, you're not going to get much light. Even with an on-board
flash.

Ian

pahl

Hi,
I think they look ok too. The only one I would say is a little dark is the very last one.

magicpic

pahl wrote:

Hi,
I think they look ok too. The only one I would say is a little dark is the very last one.

the photos had alot of noise to them so is that the way it is when you shoot ISO 1600 and 800

Andy

magicpic wrote:

the photos had alot of noise to them so is that the way it is when you shoot ISO 1600 and 800

3 shots of the 16 in your gallery are at 1600, one of those is very underexposed but can be saved easily. Only one shot at iso 800 - and it's a bit overexposed.

The rest are at 400.

The iso1600 shots are not noisy. Did you not shoot film? Canon 1600 is a thing of beauty.

All of your shots can benefit from something like I2E:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=51034
http://smugmug.jot.com/WikiHome/PrintingAutoOrTrueColor

magicpic

Andy wrote:

3 shots of the 16 in your gallery are at 1600, one of those is very underexposed but can be saved easily. Only one shot at iso 800 - and it's a bit overexposed.

The rest are at 400.

The iso1600 shots are not noisy. Did you not shoot film? Canon 1600 is a thing of beauty.

All of your shots can benefit from something like I2E:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=51034
http://smugmug.jot.com/WikiHome/PrintingAutoOrTrueColor

I used a 20D
I shoot the 1600 and thought they were to dark so I changed to 400 and shot with a flash..thanks

RandySmugMug

these are good, not great but closer to great than to bad
1st of all decide if you like 'the flash' look and decide on flash or not. For me i decided on ambient light only for all sports, even in 40 yr old hs gyms.
For ambient light get there 10 mins early and test the light with the camera's light meter by putting the camera in Manual mode. Most likely you will need a lens with a large aperture, F2 or larger.
So set the apertute to wide open (Let's say f1.8). you will want to try to stop the lens down some latter at the cost of ISO if you can since most lenses have better IQ (contrast and sharpness) stopped down. Set ss=1/500, 1/640 is better and you can get by at 1/320 if necessary.
Now try ISO400 and see how you meter, then 800, etc.
The prob you face is you can only use 200,400,800, and 1600 and most likely the real ISO that would work is somewhere in between 800 & 1600.
In the worst gyms I shoot in (or on dark fb fields) I try to shoot no higher than iso1250 w/ ss=1/320, and f2
One last thing, shoot in RAW so you can underexpose by 1-2 stops and then recover the light in PP.
If you keep the ISO away from 1600 there should be little noise on the crop.
I hope this helps

magicpic

RandySmugMug wrote:

these are good, not great but closer to great than to bad
1st of all decide if you like 'the flash' look and decide on flash or not. For me i decided on ambient light only for all sports, even in 40 yr old hs gyms.
For ambient light get there 10 mins early and test the light with the camera's light meter by putting the camera in Manual mode. Most likely you will need a lens with a large aperture, F2 or larger.
So set the apertute to wide open (Let's say f1.8). you will want to try to stop the lens down some latter at the cost of ISO if you can since most lenses have better IQ (contrast and sharpness) stopped down. Set ss=1/500, 1/640 is better and you can get by at 1/320 if necessary.
Now try ISO400 and see how you meter, then 800, etc.
The prob you face is you can only use 200,400,800, and 1600 and most likely the real ISO that would work is somewhere in between 800 & 1600.
In the worst gyms I shoot in (or on dark fb fields) I try to shoot no higher than iso1250 w/ ss=1/320, and f2
One last thing, shoot in RAW so you can underexpose by 1-2 stops and then recover the light in PP.
If you keep the ISO away from 1600 there should be little noise on the crop.
I hope this helps

thanks Randy..janis