blue bird

jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
edited February 21, 2007 in Wildlife
I know this has to be a western blue bird but sure looks like an eastern in the book :scratch
Jeff W

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  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    Great shot Jeff!thumb.gif I think he's a western, but still working on his color.
    Glenn

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  • ShepsMomShepsMom Registered Users Posts: 4,319 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    Pretty little bird!! Nice shot! thumb.gif
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  • bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    Sure he's a Westie, he's posing isn't he rolleyes1.gif :lol

    Really crisp/clear/sharp capture thumb.gif
  • riddim_makerriddim_maker Registered Users Posts: 1,835 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    SWEEEEET! clap.gif
    Russ
  • dbaker1221dbaker1221 Registered Users Posts: 4,482 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    wow fantastic!wings.gif
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited February 19, 2007
    jwear wrote:
    I know this has to be a western blue bird but sure looks like an eastern in the book headscratch.gif
    Great shot, Jeff! thumb.gif

    According to my Sibley book, what you have there is a female, Bright adult, Western Bluebird.

    Cheers,
    -joel
  • MaestroMaestro Registered Users Posts: 5,395 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    Great composition and pose for the bird. I love bluebirds. Here in Texas we only have the eastern variety except for far west Texas I suppose.
  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2007
    Outstanding Jeff, great details and a very nice background.
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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    Great shot Jeff!thumb.gif I think he's a western, but still working on his color.
    Joel has a good point but I am still not sur it's a female the head has a lot of blue --darn birds need a nameplate eek7.gif:D thanks very happy with this shot it was very dark in the tree
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    ShepsMom wrote:
    Pretty little bird!! Nice shot! thumb.gif
    thanks
    Jeff W

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  • dallasdallas Registered Users Posts: 1,638 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    Love,love,love it Jeff. thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    bfjr wrote:
    Sure he's a Westie, he's posing isn't he rolleyes1.gif :lol

    Really crisp/clear/sharp capture thumb.gif
    thanks only one I have and it may be a western hollywood --he / she rolleyes1.gif
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    SWEEEEET! clap.gif
    thanks that was from the day we shot --dallas and I shot the coopers and there it was
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    dbaker1221 wrote:
    wow fantastic!wings.gif
    thanks DB thumb.gif
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    Great shot, Jeff! thumb.gif

    According to my Sibley book, what you have there is a female, Bright adult, Western Bluebird.

    Cheers,
    -joel
    you may be right but after reading this I did some more looking and the female has no blue on the head [as I read it ] but again you may be right -id is a big pain in the --refer to Harrys post :D thanks see you in march
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    Maestro wrote:
    Great composition and pose for the bird. I love bluebirds. Here in Texas we only have the eastern variety except for far west Texas I suppose.
    thanks I was happy --no very happy with this one it was dark in the tree and I had time to take about 6 shots and I kept moving this was the last shot and my only blue bird -I have tried many times but failed :cry thanks again thumb.gif
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    Harryb wrote:
    Outstanding Jeff, great details and a very nice background.
    thanks Harry but I can not take credit for the background that is william telling me lets go that aint not raptor rolleyes1.gif but I am very pleased with this one :ivar
    Jeff W

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    dallas wrote:
    Love,love,love it Jeff. thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
    thanks you remember this one we shot the coppers then I got this in the next tree
    Jeff W

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  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    jwear wrote:
    Joel has a good point but I am still not sur it's a female the head has a lot of blue --darn birds need a nameplate eek7.gif:D thanks very happy with this shot it was very dark in the tree

    She's a he! (definetly a westie)rolleyes1.gif Female is more gray overall. Not that much blue, and orange.
    Glenn

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited February 20, 2007
    She's a he! (definetly a westie)rolleyes1.gif Female is more gray overall. Not that much blue, and orange.
    But males have a blue throat, which this one definitely does not. :nono
  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    But males have a blue throat, which this one definitely does not. :nono


    Female Western Bluebird
    130968101-M.jpg

    Most birds come into their breeding color through wear and tear. As the lighter feather edges wear away the color is revealed. You can start to see the blue color appearing under the throat on Jeff's photo.
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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited February 20, 2007
    Female Western Bluebird
    130968101-M.jpg
    Gorgeous shot.

    The Sibley Guide to Birds, page 400 shows that there are two variants of the western blue, a drab and a bright.

    Yours looks exactly like the female drab western blue. Jeff's looks exactly like a female bright western blue. Juvie's are spotted and look totally different.

    I'm sure you know a lot more about these birds than I do. However, I think you may be used to the drab bluebird, while Jeff's is a bright. Hence the confusion.

    Edit: BTW, Sibley also notes that the male has a blue belly, which Jeff's definitely does not. Here's a shot of a male from the Cornell ornithology website.

    REB_040902_00461C_L.jpg
    Cheers,
    -joel
  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    Gorgeous shot.

    The Sibley Guide to Birds, page 400 shows that there are two variants of the western blue, a drab and a bright.

    Yours looks exactly like the female drab western blue. Jeff's looks exactly like a female bright western blue. Juvie's are spotted and look totally different.

    I'm sure you know a lot more about these birds than I do. However, I think you may be used to the drab bluebird, while Jeff's is a bright. Hence the confusion.

    Edit: BTW, Sibley also notes that the male has a blue belly, which Jeff's definitely does not. Here's a shot of a male from the Cornell ornithology website.

    REB_040902_00461C_L.jpg
    Cheers,
    -joel

    I don't have Sibley Guide with me, but check and see if the bright female has gray on the back below the head, or orange then blue. That would be the key.
    Glenn

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited February 20, 2007
    I don't have Sibley Guide with me, but check and see if the bright female has gray on the back below the head, or orange then blue. That would be the key.
    They don't really call out that distinction. However, the pictures show that the female's back is somewhat gray, turning to darker blue as it progress down on the wings by her sides. The picture of the male shows dark blue and orange, with no gray. There is text that explains "some have entirely chestnut backs, others nearly all-blue." Jeff's bird's back is in the shadow, which doesn't help. But it looks like it has some gray to me. ne_nau.gif

    At any rate, if you do get a copy of the book and compare the picture of the female to Jeff's bird, you'll see what I mean.

    -joel
  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 20, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    They don't really call out that distinction. However, the pictures show that the female's back is somewhat gray, turning to darker blue as it progress down on the wings by her sides. The picture of the male shows dark blue and orange, with no gray. There is text that explains "some have entirely chestnut backs, others nearly all-blue." Jeff's bird's back is in the shadow, which doesn't help. But it looks like it has some gray to me. ne_nau.gif

    At any rate, if you do get a copy of the book and compare the picture of the female to Jeff's bird, you'll see what I mean.

    -joel

    I'll take a look tonight when I get home! Another distinction would be the wings gray for the female, and blue for the male. I think we can both agree that it is a bluebird.rolleyes1.gif

    BTW this bird was hanging out with the female I posted earlier!
    126777129-M-1.jpg

    After looking at the bird books last night I realised the obvious difference between the males, and females is the white eye-ring!
    Glenn

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  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 21, 2007
    Dallas got a hold of me and has the shot from the other side --I think this will help after he posts it --I am going with a male the head is more blue and I think you will see it in his shot or Joel will have to get more proof deal.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif I told you if they are not stars then they need to have name tags rolleyes1.gif
    Jeff W

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  • BigAlBigAl Registered Users Posts: 2,294 Major grins
    edited February 21, 2007
    Really nice detail and exposure Jeff thumb.gif (can't comment on the ID as it's a bit out of my range :D)
  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited February 21, 2007
    BigAl wrote:
    Really nice detail and exposure Jeff thumb.gif (can't comment on the ID as it's a bit out of my range :D)
    thanks alot Al --the picture taking is easy it's that dam Iding that is hard some birds with the age and season ect hard to have an id we know its a western blue bird rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif thanks again
    Jeff W

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  • kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,681 moderator
    edited February 21, 2007
    After looking at the bird books last night I realised the obvious difference between the males, and females is the white eye-ring!
    Ok, I give. At least I'm pretty sure my wife is a female. headscratch.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Regards,
    -joel
  • raptorcaptorraptorcaptor Registered Users Posts: 3,968 Major grins
    edited February 21, 2007
    kdog wrote:
    Ok, I give. At least I'm pretty sure my wife is a female. headscratch.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Regards,
    -joel

    I'll have to take your word on that! rolleyes1.gif
    Glenn

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