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Richard CabesaRichard Cabesa Registered Users Posts: 155 Major grins
edited February 19, 2004 in The Dgrin Challenges
Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.

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David

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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    Richard Cabesa wrote:
    Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.
    David
    Wow!!!
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    ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    Man that sucks! Oh ,not the picture, thats great!


    That you are out riding and I am not, is what sucks.
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    Richard CabesaRichard Cabesa Registered Users Posts: 155 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    Shakey wrote:
    Man that sucks! Oh ,not the picture, thats great!


    That you are out riding and I am not, is what sucks.

    Sorry man, if it helps any, it's raining today

    David
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    HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Registered Users Posts: 550 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    Richard Cabesa wrote:
    Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.
    I saw that in your ride report and wondered if you'd post it here.

    Beautiful! thumb.gif
    Tim
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    lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,207 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    Richard Cabesa wrote:
    Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.

    2449469-L.jpg

    David
    thats really beautiful, what did you take it with and what settings etc??
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    I think he has a Canon A80. Just goes to prove how good even the smallest cams can be -- in the hands of a talented shooter, of course! I too saw that pic on the advrider ride report, think it's a wonderful shot. What makes it work for me is that the foreground is clearly established... and is the base off of which the swooping background works. The shot really has depth and dimension. And with understones of chocolate and cinnamon, and a good mouthfeel, this shot floats across the palate like a finely toasted Lebanese maple tree fig root.... :D
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    Richard CabesaRichard Cabesa Registered Users Posts: 155 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    lynnma wrote:
    thats really beautiful, what did you take it with and what settings etc??
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    Thanks Lynn. Had the camera on auto and here is what I got.

    Camera Model Name
    Canon PowerShot A80
    Shooting Date/Time
    2/15/04 11:12:47 AM
    Shooting Mode
    Auto
    Photo Effect Mode
    Off
    Tv( Shutter Speed )
    1/320
    Av( Aperture Value )
    4.9
    Metering Mode
    Evaluative
    Exposure Compensation
    0
    ISO Speed
    Auto
    Lens
    7.8 - 23.4mm
    Focal Length
    23.4mm

    David
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    Richard CabesaRichard Cabesa Registered Users Posts: 155 Major grins
    edited February 18, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    I think he has a Canon A80. Just goes to prove how good even the smallest cams can be -- in the hands of a talented shooter, of course! I too saw that pic on the advrider ride report, think it's a wonderful shot. What makes it work for me is that the foreground is clearly established... and is the base off of which the swooping background works. The shot really has depth and dimension. And with understones of chocolate and cinnamon, and a good mouthfeel, this shot floats across the palate like a finely toasted Lebanese maple tree fig root.... :D
    rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif Damn photo snobs
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 19, 2004
    Richard Cabesa wrote:
    rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif Damn photo snobs
    David,

    Just remember, it's not the arrow, it's the indian.

    That is a damn fine shot no matter how you got it. And please forgive
    me for not congratulating you on your anniversery. Happy 24th!

    Ian
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2004
    Ya know Ian, sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not. I'm getting pretty frustrated with certain aspects of my G3. I'm far from being a competent shooter, but I'm not the reason why my camera delivers fuzzy images on long shots at night, nor am I the reason it can't shoot anything that's moving. I believe a good shooter can make good photos with any camera... but it is possible that some cameras have limitations that inhibit their usefulness. JMHO
    Sid.
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 19, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    Ya know Ian, sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not. I'm getting pretty frustrated with certain aspects of my G3. I'm far from being a competent shooter, but I'm not the reason why my camera delivers fuzzy images on long shots at night, nor am I the reason it can't shoot anything that's moving. I believe a good shooter can make good photos with any camera... but it is possible that some cameras have limitations that inhibit their usefulness. JMHO
    I had to give you some grief waxy. It was good spirited and I hope you
    didn't take it any other way. My apologies if otherwise.

    WRT the G3 and night shots, most auto focus cameras will have trouble in
    low light. Even the 10d does. Since I am blind, I have trouble focusing using
    manual :)

    What happens with the moving shots?

    Ian
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2004
    thumb.gif You're a mind reader.... and a very good one.mwink.gif

    On moving shots it has a slow trigger response so the moment's gone by the time the shutter opens. Very frustrating. I spent an afternoon and evening by the fountain downtown, kids playing in the water, tons of opportunities, but very few good shots, because I couldn't capture the moment.

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    Sid.
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 19, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    thumb.gif You're a mind reader.... and a very good one.mwink.gif

    On moving shots it has a slow trigger response so the moment's gone by the time the shutter opens. Very frustrating. I spent an afternoon and evening by the fountain downtown, kids playing in the water, tons of opportunities, but very few good shots, because I couldn't capture the moment.
    This is a fine shot! I especially like the kid behind the man and both
    color and lighting are great. Shy kid for sure :)

    I have had that problem with my E10. What I did to compensate was two
    fold. First, find and hold focus. This limits the time required to setup the
    shot. Next, When I shoot, I track the subject as best I can. This isn't a
    fix for that 1/2 second the shutter takes to operate it mitigates a good
    shot by (hopefully) keeping the subject in frame.

    And you're right, shutter lag has nothing to do with the indian :)

    Ian
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 19, 2004
    waxy,

    might this help?

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=help+with+shutter+lag+g3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Vl_ab.393075%24cF.120244%40rwcrnsc53&rnum=5

    Ian
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2004
    Excellent suggestions. Here's my problem: last year Patch let me fire off shots with his 1D. Ohmygodthatthingisfast... no lag, no hesitation, it was like a machine gun, ripping off the shots. And we happened to be at the track, where my attempts to shoot moving machinery with my G3 only produced one or two good shots - and none that were tight on a bike.

    Ever since then I've paid attention to the lag and the burst rate of the new cameras. I almost peed my pants when I read the specs on the 1DmkII... and then again when I saw the price.


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    Sid.
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 19, 2004
    ian408 wrote:
    waxy,

    might this help?

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=help+with+shutter+lag+g3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Vl_ab.393075%24cF.120244%40rwcrnsc53&rnum=5

    Ian


    thumb.gif Cool link. I'll have to try that. I confess I've never tried to use the manual focus or the focus bracketing. Time to start. Thanks!
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 19, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    thumb.gif Cool link. I'll have to try that. I confess I've never tried to use the manual focus or the focus bracketing. Time to start. Thanks!
    You could stick with the full-on-auto but work on the anticipation aspect. Ie;
    at the mc races, anticipate when the rider will pass you and click, follow just and click about 1/2 second before the rider passes.

    Good luck!

    Ian

    And now, almost, back to the vineyard.

    Here's is an autofocus nightmare:

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