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Richard Cabesa · February 18, 2004

Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.

David

cmr164 · February 18, 2004

Richard Cabesa wrote:

Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.
David

Wow!!!

Shakey · February 18, 2004

Man that sucks! Oh ,not the picture, thats great!

That you are out riding and I am not, is what sucks.

Richard Cabesa · February 18, 2004

Shakey wrote:

Man that sucks! Oh ,not the picture, thats great!

That you are out riding and I am not, is what sucks.

Sorry man, if it helps any, it's raining today

David

HarveyMushman · February 18, 2004

Richard Cabesa wrote:

Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.

I saw that in your ride report and wondered if you'd post it here.

Beautiful!

lynnma · February 18, 2004

Richard Cabesa wrote:

Here is a shot I took this on this weekends motorcycle ride near Greenfield CA.

David

thats really beautiful, what did you take it with and what settings etc??
Lynn

wxwax · February 18, 2004

I think he has a Canon A80. Just goes to prove how good even the smallest cams can be -- in the hands of a talented shooter, of course! I too saw that pic on the advrider ride report, think it's a wonderful shot. What makes it work for me is that the foreground is clearly established... and is the base off of which the swooping background works. The shot really has depth and dimension. And with understones of chocolate and cinnamon, and a good mouthfeel, this shot floats across the palate like a finely toasted Lebanese maple tree fig root....

Richard Cabesa · February 18, 2004

lynnma wrote:

thats really beautiful, what did you take it with and what settings etc??
Lynn

Thanks Lynn. Had the camera on auto and here is what I got.

Camera Model Name
Canon PowerShot A80
Shooting Date/Time
2/15/04 11:12:47 AM
Shooting Mode
Auto
Photo Effect Mode
Off
Tv( Shutter Speed )
1/320
Av( Aperture Value )
4.9
Metering Mode
Evaluative
Exposure Compensation
0
ISO Speed
Auto
Lens
7.8 - 23.4mm
Focal Length
23.4mm

David

Richard Cabesa · February 18, 2004

wxwax wrote:

I think he has a Canon A80. Just goes to prove how good even the smallest cams can be -- in the hands of a talented shooter, of course! I too saw that pic on the advrider ride report, think it's a wonderful shot. What makes it work for me is that the foreground is clearly established... and is the base off of which the swooping background works. The shot really has depth and dimension. And with understones of chocolate and cinnamon, and a good mouthfeel, this shot floats across the palate like a finely toasted Lebanese maple tree fig root....

Damn photo snobs

ian408 · February 19, 2004

Richard Cabesa wrote:

Damn photo snobs

David,

Just remember, it's not the arrow, it's the indian.

That is a damn fine shot no matter how you got it. And please forgive
me for not congratulating you on your anniversery. Happy 24th!

Ian

wxwax · February 19, 2004

Ya know Ian, sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not. I'm getting pretty frustrated with certain aspects of my G3. I'm far from being a competent shooter, but I'm not the reason why my camera delivers fuzzy images on long shots at night, nor am I the reason it can't shoot anything that's moving. I believe a good shooter can make good photos with any camera... but it is possible that some cameras have limitations that inhibit their usefulness. JMHO

ian408 · February 19, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Ya know Ian, sometimes that's true and sometimes it's not. I'm getting pretty frustrated with certain aspects of my G3. I'm far from being a competent shooter, but I'm not the reason why my camera delivers fuzzy images on long shots at night, nor am I the reason it can't shoot anything that's moving. I believe a good shooter can make good photos with any camera... but it is possible that some cameras have limitations that inhibit their usefulness. JMHO

I had to give you some grief waxy. It was good spirited and I hope you
didn't take it any other way. My apologies if otherwise.

WRT the G3 and night shots, most auto focus cameras will have trouble in
low light. Even the 10d does. Since I am blind, I have trouble focusing using
manual

What happens with the moving shots?

Ian

wxwax · February 19, 2004

You're a mind reader.... and a very good one.

On moving shots it has a slow trigger response so the moment's gone by the time the shutter opens. Very frustrating. I spent an afternoon and evening by the fountain downtown, kids playing in the water, tons of opportunities, but very few good shots, because I couldn't capture the moment.

ian408 · February 19, 2004

wxwax wrote:

You're a mind reader.... and a very good one.

On moving shots it has a slow trigger response so the moment's gone by the time the shutter opens. Very frustrating. I spent an afternoon and evening by the fountain downtown, kids playing in the water, tons of opportunities, but very few good shots, because I couldn't capture the moment.

This is a fine shot! I especially like the kid behind the man and both
color and lighting are great. Shy kid for sure

I have had that problem with my E10. What I did to compensate was two
fold. First, find and hold focus. This limits the time required to setup the
shot. Next, When I shoot, I track the subject as best I can. This isn't a
fix for that 1/2 second the shutter takes to operate it mitigates a good
shot by (hopefully) keeping the subject in frame.

And you're right, shutter lag has nothing to do with the indian

Ian

ian408 · February 19, 2004

waxy,

might this help?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=help+with+shutter+lag+g3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Vl_ab.393075%24cF.120244%40rwcrnsc53&rnum=5

Ian

wxwax · February 19, 2004

Excellent suggestions. Here's my problem: last year Patch let me fire off shots with his 1D. Ohmygodthatthingisfast... no lag, no hesitation, it was like a machine gun, ripping off the shots. And we happened to be at the track, where my attempts to shoot moving machinery with my G3 only produced one or two good shots - and none that were tight on a bike.

Ever since then I've paid attention to the lag and the burst rate of the new cameras. I almost peed my pants when I read the specs on the 1DmkII... and then again when I saw the price.

wxwax · February 19, 2004

ian408 wrote:

waxy,

might this help?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=help+with+shutter+lag+g3&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Vl_ab.393075%24cF.120244%40rwcrnsc53&rnum=5

Ian

Cool link. I'll have to try that. I confess I've never tried to use the manual focus or the focus bracketing. Time to start. Thanks!

ian408 · February 19, 2004

wxwax wrote:

Cool link. I'll have to try that. I confess I've never tried to use the manual focus or the focus bracketing. Time to start. Thanks!

You could stick with the full-on-auto but work on the anticipation aspect. Ie;
at the mc races, anticipate when the rider will pass you and click, follow just and click about 1/2 second before the rider passes.

Good luck!

Ian

And now, almost, back to the vineyard.

Here's is an autofocus nightmare:

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