Grand Canyon

TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
edited March 6, 2005 in Wildlife
We were at the GC on Christmas Eve in 2003. It was nice seeing snow on the ground. I only had my DSC-P5 at the time and I took a bunch of shots, but I was not wise in the ways of photography. Do these do anything for you, either the composition or the processing?

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  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2005
    I like them, The first one is better, IMHO, the composition is good, but the colors could use just a little pop, On the other hand thae pastel look is attractive.
  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited January 27, 2005
    The first is very nice - the dh wants to go to the canyon for a vacation soon - I am starting to see why! However, I know that my itinerary would be much different from the rest of the families!1drink.gif
  • handlebarhandlebar Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    The first phot is great I really like the snow on the grand canyon it is gorgeous wish I could go there. What month were those taken in?clap.gif
  • blackwaterstudioblackwaterstudio Registered Users Posts: 779 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    handlebar wrote:
    The first phot is great I really like the snow on the grand canyon it is gorgeous wish I could go there. What month were those taken in?clap.gif
    GC on Christmas Eve in 2003
    :D
  • NoNoNoNo Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    I like them, The first one is better, IMHO, the composition is good, but the colors could use just a little pop, On the other hand thae pastel look is attractive.
    I went there last May, and my pictures came out looking the same way. There was a lot of pollution then, so the haze faded anything in the distance. I tried playing with the colors a little bit, but found that it made it look worse. As you said, though, the pastel look gives it a certain feel. It's almost like a painting instead of a photo.
  • TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    I like them, The first one is better, IMHO, the composition is good, but the colors could use just a little pop, On the other hand thae pastel look is attractive.
    You shoulda seen the originals - blech. Plus, the day started out very cloudy and foggy. I did a USM of 20/50/0 to reduce the haze before anything else. I only did a slight bump on the saturation, in addition to levelling, minor curves and a final USM. Do you think it could stand a bit more saturation?
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  • USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    TristasP
    Good shots
    I also like the first one best

    Wow a river did that?rolleyes1.gif

    Thanks
    Fred
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited January 28, 2005
    TristanP wrote:
    You shoulda seen the originals - blech. Plus, the day started out very cloudy and foggy. I did a USM of 20/50/0 to reduce the haze before anything else. I only did a slight bump on the saturation, in addition to levelling, minor curves and a final USM. Do you think it could stand a bit more saturation?


    Shooting in the SouthWest can be challenging - the haze in the air from the extreme distances involved creates a bluish haze to the image. UV haze filters and/or polarized filters can help quite a bit. If it has been raining and there is water vapor in the air that can cause haze too. Both of these can be improved with some photoshopping as you stated. Saturation, curves, and overlay blending were all used in these images taken at Dead Horse State Park and Grand Canyon
    Winter can be a great time to shoot the Grand Canyon, but the roads may be closed due to snow on the North Rim. The white snow on the red rock creates gorgeous vistas.

    Dead Horse State Park between intermittent rain
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    Grand Canyon on a relatively clear day
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  • DeeDee Registered Users Posts: 2,981 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    Here's one adjustment...
    I used the USM 20/50/0 not once, but three times, then I went to image/adjust/hue saturation. I couldn't get an overall color I liked, so I went into each individual channel and bumped up the saturation except in green where I went all the way to the left to get rid of the green.

    The clouds lost some of their softness, but I could have done the adjustment on an adjustment layer and made a mask, and brought out the original clouds.

    This was just a quick try to get some better color for you. At least you can see an available option. Hope it was all right to "borrow" your photo.
  • Tim KirkwoodTim Kirkwood Registered Users Posts: 900 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    Tristan,


    I do like these alot. I hope to get to see the GC someday. They do seem a bit soft though, maybe a little more post work could help them out a bit.
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  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    A quick edit from me, Just to throw out an idea....
  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    and a slightly darker version....
  • TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll give it another try this weekend. Ideally I'd like to balance the results between what I think I remember seeing and what looks good to the viewer. I have some footage from my video camrea - maybe I'll pull that out and refresh my memory as to the actual conditions.
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  • TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    Ok, how's this? Layer of 3x USM 20/50/0 to reduce haze with clouds masked off, layer for levels, layer for Hue/Sat with blend mode set to Multiply at 40% opacity, and finally a USM on the whole thing at 250/0.6/0. This is a Bicubic Sharper image resize for web viewing run through Neat Image.

    gc3_small.jpg
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  • GREAPERGREAPER Registered Users Posts: 3,113 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    A matter of taste, But I like it much more than the original. Nicely done.

    Actually, I just looked through this thread again and I think it speaks well of the image that you took. I like every version of this photo that has been posted. They all have something.
  • TristanPTristanP Registered Users Posts: 1,107 Major grins
    edited January 28, 2005
    GREAPER wrote:
    A matter of taste, But I like it much more than the original. Nicely done.
    Thanks, me too. Amazing what a little 3 MP P&S can capture when massaged with Photoshop. I think the kicker was the Multiply layer.
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  • hansokhansok Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited March 6, 2005
    Grand Canyon 2003
    I like both pics a lot. It's one of the most fantastic places on earth. The first picture is very impressive with the snow and the clouds but I like the second better because I can see the river that caused all the beauty.

    Hans
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