smugdav

DavidTO · January 28, 2005

Well, I'm just savvy enought to be able to log into the webdav version of smugmug. Not sure what to do with it, though. I opened one of my images remotely. That was cool.

Anyone have any ideas about how this could be really useful?

onethumb · January 28, 2005

DavidTO wrote:

Well, I'm just savvy enought to be able to log into the webdav version of smugmug. Not sure what to do with it, though. I opened one of my images remotely. That was cool.

Anyone have any ideas about how this could be really useful?

Glad someone found it.

In it's current form (ie, READ ONLY), it's mainly intended as an easy backup method. Select the folder(s) you want, and copy them to your local drive. Boom, instant local backup.

Especially useful if you lost your local copy of your files to a HD crash or something.

Once it's not read-only, though, it could be an easy bulk-uploading method as well as an organization and album/category/subcategory creation tool. We'll get there.

Don

DavidTO · January 28, 2005

onethumb wrote:

Glad someone found it.

Do I get a prize?

In it's current form (ie, READ ONLY), it's mainly intended as an easy backup method. Select the folder(s) you want, and copy them to your local drive. Boom, instant local backup.

Especially useful if you lost your local copy of your files to a HD crash or something.

Once it's not read-only, though, it could be an easy bulk-uploading method as well as an organization and album/category/subcategory creation tool. We'll get there.

Don

Very cool. Won't it be exceptionally easy to screw things up when bulk-uploading or messing with the organization?

rainforest1155 · January 28, 2005

my chin dropped to the table
Whhoooohoow!!

That really rocks! I always imagined some sort of ftp-tool to manage images. Nikolai's SE was the first step and this is even greater especially to download images!

Is it correct, that downloading stuff over the dav-engine does not create traffic in my statistics? Would be great if I need a big chunk of originals one day, but I don't hope this will be necessary.

Also found a bug: Categories containing galleries with special characters (+,ü,ö,ä etc.) can't be viewed...there's an unknown error.

I am really happy to have this feature! In combination with the copy feature it's like christmas again!

Thanks for your outstanding work! I like such suprises

Best whishes to the smugmug team,
Sebastian

Nikolai · January 28, 2005

Where is it? (edited)
Can't find it.. :-(

Probably a sign of a permanent brain damage..

Hints/directions, please?

--
EDIT:
nevermind, found it: http://www.smugmug.com/hack/webdav-overview

DavidTO · January 28, 2005

Nikolai wrote:

Can't find it.. :-(
Probably a sign of a permanent brain damage..
Hints/directions, please?

here

Nikolai · January 28, 2005

Thanks, man!

DavidTO wrote:

here

Wicked timing, man- split second after I found it myself:-)
Cheers!

Nikolai · January 28, 2005

What can I say - wow!
Good job, Don!

onethumb · January 28, 2005

DavidTO wrote:

Very cool. Won't it be exceptionally easy to screw things up when bulk-uploading or messing with the organization?

Not if I write it correctly. I suppose it's possible someone will end up with photos in the wrong place, but that can easily happen with the current tools.

As long as no photos get *lost*, I'll consider it to be a success.

Don

DavidTO · January 28, 2005

onethumb wrote:

Not if I write it correctly. I suppose it's possible someone will end up with photos in the wrong place, but that can easily happen with the current tools.

As long as no photos get *lost*, I'll consider it to be a success.

Don

So no prize, eh?

Darn. I thought I mighta finally won something.

Baldy · January 29, 2005

My hint about the Roach Hotel in the other thread came from a conference we attended. Developers there said they won't use photo sharing sites because they're like the Roach Hotel — Roaches check in but they don't check out.

Then someone sat down beside us and got all passionate about webdav and onethumb started thinking, "hmmmm...."

Noggin · January 31, 2005

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.

I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".

Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

Iain

Nir · January 31, 2005

Noggin wrote:

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.
I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".
Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

Iain

Couldn't have phrased the question better!

onethumb · January 31, 2005

Noggin wrote:

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.

I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".

Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

Iain

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password.

Simply enter your smugmug login info (email and password), and it should work fine.

If it doesn't, you may have found a bug. This is pretty rough software at this point, so it might be buggy. I'm not having any problems, but that doesn't mean you won't.

Don

T4Tots · January 31, 2005

Well that's convenient and works great!

rainforest1155 · January 31, 2005

onethumb wrote:

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password.

As far as I remember it didn't ask me for my account details, but I assumed it used the hashed smugmug login from my internet explorer.
Isn't it so, that the build-in DAV-Tool from Win2000/XP uses the IE to access the data?! Then this would be logical, wouldn't it?

Noggin · January 31, 2005

onethumb wrote:

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password.

That is what I would have expected, but no! :uhoh

I normally use Firefox, so just checked that IE has my Smugmug details and the problem is still there :cry

I guess I'll just have to wait, or perhaps dig a bit deeper

Thanks anyway,

Iain

onethumb · January 31, 2005

rainforest1155 wrote:

As far as I remember it didn't ask me for my account details, but I assumed it used the hashed smugmug login from my internet explorer.
Isn't it so, that the build-in DAV-Tool from Win2000/XP uses the IE to access the data?! Then this would be logical, wouldn't it?

No, it doesn't use IE's data.

Might want to delete the Network Connection you built from smugmug and start over.

I've done this on a bunch of machines now, and they all pop up a dialog box asking for the username/password. If yours doesn't, it might be some obscure setting somewhere that I don't know of, but I haven't seen it on Windows or the Mac.

Note that no-one has tried it on Win2K, that I know of, just WinXP.

Don

Noggin · January 31, 2005

I've deleted and recreated several times - all with the same result, no password dialog.

I'm running XP Home with Norton Internet Security firewall enabled and Windows firewall disabled.

Iain

Noggin · January 31, 2005

Problem solved!!

I download this MS update and it works a treat - without ever prompting for a password

Iain

rainforest1155 · January 31, 2005

onethumb wrote:

I've done this on a bunch of machines now, and they all pop up a dialog box asking for the username/password. If yours doesn't, it might be some obscure setting somewhere that I don't know of, but I haven't seen it on Windows or the Mac.

Note that no-one has tried it on Win2K, that I know of, just WinXP.

Can't remember if it asked me or not, but I tried it again (deleting+creating) and there was no login window.
What so ever...I'm just happy that it works and even though I'm using Win2000.

Sebastian

Nir · February 1, 2005

Noggin wrote:

Problem solved!!

I download this MS update and it works a treat - without ever prompting for a password

Iain

Deleted the network connection.
Installed the MS Update.
Rebooted PC.
Installed new network connection.
Did NOT get a popup screen for username & password.
When I connect I get a folder with a list of categories. If I double click a category under which I do NOT have any photos, an empty folder opens.

If I double click a category under which I DO have photos I get - Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been moved or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server.

Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2

Suggestions?

Noggin · February 1, 2005

Nir,

Try a few other categories, some of mine return an error as yours do, others come up empty (when they are not) and I have a gallery appearing where it shouldn't (although it also appears correctly where it really is!).

I have recently been re-organising some categories, sub-categories and galleries, is there perhaps a caching problem?

Looks like there may be a bit more to be done to the underlying code

Looks good though, good work all concerned,

Iain

renstar · February 1, 2005

No Login prompt issue
I've done some testing on the login prompt issue. I found that when I am logged in to smugmug on IE, when I create the webdav connection (windows xp) it does not prompt for a password.

I log out of smugmug in IE and I get prompted. I havn't tried to see what happens to an existing connection when logged out.

I have access to two accounts, mine and my mothers, and I tried this with both. When logged in as her, i get her account through webdav, when logged in as me, i get my account.

Onethumb, in my experiences with webdav, there should be a way to have the address you log in to include the username so that it is something like:
https://upload.smugmug.com/renstar
instead of:
https://upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg
I would much prefer something like that before write access is allowed.

Also, for windows xp users, if you want to use multiple accounts and arn't getting prompted for a password, there is a program called WebDrive that manages webdav connections.

For OSX, a program called Goliath does the same thing, and i think it uses SSL, unlike the OSX method mentioned on smugmug.

FWIW, firefox has no effect on this.

renstar
renstar.smugmug.com

Nikolai · February 1, 2005

good one, man!
thanks

Cheers!

Nir · February 2, 2005

renstar wrote:

I've done some testing on the login prompt issue. I found that when I am logged in to smugmug on IE, when I create the webdav connection (windows xp) it does not prompt for a password...

Thanks for the tip! I think I am almost always logged in even though IE was closed. I will only be able to try it Sunday - I'll let you know.

devbobo · February 2, 2005

webdav url with no login prompt
Hi All,

Here's how you do the login without having to worry about the login prompt...

[url="https://"]https://[/url][username]|[password]@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg

Now, with the , you need to replace the [email="'@';"]'@'[/email] with '@' (the HTML ascii equivalent)

so, here's an example...

https://fred.bloggs@hotmail.com|smugmug@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg

Note: you will have to hover over the links to see the full url

Hope this helps,

David

marlinspike · February 2, 2005

Well, I'm logged out of my account on smugmug and logged in on IE, and I got no password prompt.
Richard

Michael Allen · February 2, 2005

I'm on xp pro and using firefox and it took me right to my account, haven't tried to upload yet but it looks good, think I'll like this.

onethumb · February 2, 2005

devbobo wrote:

Hi All,

Here's how you do the login without having to worry about the login prompt...

[url="https://"]https://[/url][username]|[password]@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg

Now, with the , you need to replace the [email="'@';"]'@'[/email] with '@' (the HTML ascii equivalent)

so, here's an example...

https://fred.bloggs@hotmail.com|smugmug@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg

Note: you will have to hover over the links to see the full url

Hope this helps,

David

Also note that an undocumented 'trick' is that smugmug allows you to use your NickName as your username, not just your Email. So you don't need the @ at all, if you're clever.

This works for smugDAV too.

Don

Noggin · February 2, 2005

I am experiencing the strange effect of Galleries (and photos therein) in a Subcategory appearing at both the Category and Subcategory levels - anyone else seeing this?

Also, some Categories repeatedly give the error message:

"Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been removed or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server"

Any clues as to what is going on? I can access the Category and photos in the conventional manner so know they are still there!

Iain

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