Favorite Dream lens...

Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
edited April 14, 2007 in Cameras
Hey guys, time for a fun question:

If you were a lens designer for any of the well known lens manufacturers, what would your next invented lens be?

My list:
Nikon 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 Vr Dx lens
or Nikon 18-70 vr Dx
and a Nikon 50mm f/1.8 vr (I wish)
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Everyones list:
Nikon 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 Vr
A Lightweight 500mm f/2.8 Vr lens

Canon 18-70 f/1.4 IS
Canon 15mm f/1.2
Canon 16mm f/1.4
Canon 17mm f/2
Canon 200-400 f/4 Vr (haha we have it -Nikon users; I think its time to switch lol, Jk :P)
"The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
- Ansel Adams.

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  • jdryan3jdryan3 Registered Users Posts: 1,353 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    Canon 18-70 f/1.4 IS. IS? headscratch.gif Yeah, cause that is wider and 2 stops faster than my 24-70 so I'm sure it would weigh a ton. I'd need IS just to hold it steady.

    Also I would like it SHARP @ 1.4, 2.0, 2.8. Wide and soft doesn't do me any good thumb.gif
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  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    jdryan3 wrote:
    Canon 18-70 f/1.4 IS. IS? headscratch.gif Yeah, cause that is wider and 2 stops faster than my 24-70 so I'm sure it would weigh a ton. I'd need IS just to hold it steady.

    Also I would like it SHARP @ 1.4, 2.0, 2.8. Wide and soft doesn't do me any good thumb.gif
    Haha, that would be awesome lol =)


    Maybe even one made by sigma with os vIII lol =) So we can all use it :P
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • TerrenceTerrence Registered Users Posts: 477 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    Canon 70-200 f/2.8
    Canon 500mm f/4
    Terrence

    My photos

    "The future is an illusion, but a damned handy one." - David Allen
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,131 moderator
    edited April 10, 2007
    As long as we're dreamin', I want this combination:

    Cambo Wide DS with Schneider Digital 35mm f/5.6 and Phase One P25 back
    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/expensive-ps.shtml

    ... or maybe:

    ZEISS Apo Sonnar T* 4/1700
    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp

    I'd "settle" for a Canon EF 200mm, f1.8L

    Of course, speaking of dreaming:

    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=17314
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • jdryan3jdryan3 Registered Users Posts: 1,353 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    ziggy53 wrote:
    I'd "settle" for a Canon EF 200mm, f1.8L

    :lol :lol :lol

    ...and the mudhaus thing is pretty funny (no, Ziggy, I don't think they are serious)
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  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    I meant what lens would you invent, that doesnt already exist, not which one would you buy lol :P.
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    I'd like a 15 or 16mm rectilinear prime, 1.2 or 1.4, sharp all the way to the corners. IS would be nice too.

    And I'd like someone to buy me a 400 2.8 IS. :D
    Sid.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    Since we are dreaming I want a 500mm 2.8 VR lens that's light enough to handhold. :lol4
    Harry
    http://behret.smugmug.com/ NANPA member
    How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
  • LiquidAirLiquidAir Registered Users Posts: 1,751 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2007
    wxwax wrote:
    I'd like a 15 or 16mm rectilinear prime, 1.2 or 1.4, sharp all the way to the corners. IS would be nice too.

    And I'd like someone to buy me a 400 2.8 IS. :D

    Heh. I was thinking along similar lines. Actually for me, a 17mm f/2L would be just fine thankyouverymuch. The other lens I'd like is a EF 200-400/4L IS.

    And, while I am wishing for horses, I wouldn't look a gift 500/4L IS in the mouth...:D
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,131 moderator
    edited April 11, 2007
    Mike02 wrote:
    I meant what lens would you invent, that doesnt already exist, not which one would you buy lol :P.

    Oh, well, that's easy!

    I want a full-frame zoom lens with constant aperture, at least f1, no vignetting or visible aberrations out to the extreme edges, from 6mm to 1200mm, with a fisheye option at the wide end (otherwise perfectly rectilinear) and image stabilization with at least 5 stops of effective stabilization, a universal camera mount with adaptive electronics (so it would couple physically and electronically to any body I desire), a built-in auto-telescoping lens hood, a 25 blade aperture capable of f128 and instant , silent auto-focus.

    Is that too much to ask for?

    Oh, and I need it for under $100USD (of course and goes without saying).

    Getting back to reality, what I think is really needed are more lenses of all focal lengths with large apertures and inexpensive IS/VR/SR. Some more primes with stabilization would be nice.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
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    Don't forget, it must be hand-holdable and discrete for those street-shooting sessions. :Dmwink.gif

    In the real world, lower prices on what's there is all it will take to make me happy--that way I could afford the objects of my lust sooner: 70-200/2.8IS, 300/2.8IS, and Sigma's 120-300/2.8.
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
    ziggy53 wrote:
    Oh, well, that's easy!

    I want a full-frame zoom lens with constant aperture, at least f1, no vignetting or visible aberrations out to the extreme edges, from 6mm to 1200mm, with a fisheye option at the wide end (otherwise perfectly rectilinear) and image stabilization with at least 5 stops of effective stabilization, a universal camera mount with adaptive electronics (so it would couple physically and electronically to any body I desire), a built-in auto-telescoping lens hood, a 25 blade aperture capable of f128 and instant , silent auto-focus.

    Is that too much to ask for?

    Oh, and I need it for under $100USD (of course and goes without saying).

    Getting back to reality, what I think is really needed are more lenses of all focal lengths with large apertures and inexpensive IS/VR/SR. Some more primes with stabilization would be nice.
    Haha, of course, that would be a great lens... If it were possible :P
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • mmrodenmmroden Registered Users Posts: 472 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
    Alls I want is a 50mm equivalent for my d70 (not the 50 mm itself, but something around 35mm) that goes to 1.4, doesn't have barrel distortion, and is discrete enough to use in street shooting. In other words, I want the current 50mm 1.4, but adjusted to be maybe 34mm 1.4, or whatever the digital equivalent is.

    The sigma's got some barrel distortion that makes me scratch my head, and it's also not a small beastie.
  • urbanariesurbanaries Registered Users Posts: 2,690 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
    mmroden wrote:
    Alls I want is a 50mm equivalent for my d70 (not the 50 mm itself, but something around 35mm) that goes to 1.4, doesn't have barrel distortion, and is discrete enough to use in street shooting. In other words, I want the current 50mm 1.4, but adjusted to be maybe 34mm 1.4, or whatever the digital equivalent is.

    The sigma's got some barrel distortion that makes me scratch my head, and it's also not a small beastie.

    isn't your dream lens a reality....in the canon line?
    Canon 5D MkI
    50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 24-70 2.8L, 35mm 1.4L, 135mm f2L
    ST-E2 Transmitter + (3) 580 EXII + radio poppers
  • Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
    Mike02 wrote:
    Hey guys, time for a fun question:

    If you were a lens designer for any of the well known lens manufacturers, what would your next invented lens be?

    My list:
    Nikon 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 Vr Dx lens

    Just curious, why would you want a lens without a constant aperture?
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,131 moderator
    edited April 11, 2007
    Red Bull wrote:
    Just curious, why would you want a lens without a constant aperture?

    Constant aperture is but one desirable attribute. I just purchased an older Canon 28-80mm, f2.8-f4L because it has very good qualities overall and had a very decent price.

    As long as I stay in Aperture Priority mode or use an E-TTL II flash that compensates for the variable aperture, it works nicely. Even full manual is OK when I have time to think about it and watch the exposure info in the viewfinder.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2007
    OK, let's think outside the box.

    Me: that's a nice picture -- take it.

    Lens: No, you dope, aim a little lower and wait a second.

    That was my dream.
    If not now, when?
  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    urbanaries wrote:
    isn't your dream lens a reality....in the canon line?
    Dang, beat me to it! Too many smart-alecks on this board. :D

    rutt wrote:
    OK, let's think outside the box.

    Me: that's a nice picture -- take it.

    Lens: No, you dope, aim a little lower and wait a second.

    That was my dream.
    Hehe... WTD
  • jwwjww Registered Users Posts: 449 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    Harryb wrote:
    Since we are dreaming I want a 500mm 2.8 VR lens that's light enough to handhold. :lol4

    Now that is one I would like as well !! ...and while we are dreaming, make it razor sharp and less than $2000 !! :)
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    jww wrote:
    Now, that is one I would like as well !! ...and while we are dreaming, make it razor sharp and less than $2000 !! :)
    a very light 16-500/1.8 L IS sounds pretty nice :D
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    ivar wrote:
    a very light 16-500/1.8 L IS sounds pretty nice :D
    Oh and it has to be small...
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    Red Bull wrote:
    Just curious, why would you want a lens without a constant aperture?
    Likewise, why would you want it to be constant aperture?

    1. The lens is smaller and or lighter.

    2. Variable aperture isnt the worst thing in the world.

    2.5. Constant aperture isnt the best thing in the world.

    3. As a replacement for my 18-70 kit lens. You have no idea how useful this lens would be with Vr. :P
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 12, 2007
    ivar wrote:
    a very light 16-500/1.8 L IS sounds pretty nice :D
    I'm sure it will be about $100,000; but as long as it's smaller than the 'sigzilla' I'll be happy. :P
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • BlurmoreBlurmore Registered Users Posts: 992 Major grins
    edited April 13, 2007
    These threads come up a lot. And most of the time I stay out of them, because most of the suggested "dreams" are actually near optical impossibilities. For instance the aformentioned 24-80 f1.4 would have +150mm objective, and enough elements to make the Hubble blush. As would the 16-500 f2.8 would need a jeep mount, and have so much barrel distortion at the wide end it would effectively be a fisheye. Keeping my dreams withing optical probability, the lens I would shell out 2k+ for would be a 55-300 EF-S f2.8-3.5 DO IS. Perfect combo for my 17-55 EF-S f2.8.
  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited April 13, 2007
    Take a good look at a lot of the "dream lenses" and you will see the poster is being a smart a$$--he knows the lens is silly & is deliberately dreaming up obviously impossible specs.

    Honestly, once I am able to afford the 70-200/2.8, that plus my current lineup of 12-24/4 and 24-70/2.8 is more than good enough to make me happy. Then I'll only lust for really long lenses I cannot afford (300/2.8IS, 120-300/2.8), and a few nice primes I can (35/1.4, 85/1.8).

    Mike02 wrote:
    Likewise, why would you want it to be constant aperture?

    1. The lens is smaller and or lighter.

    2. Variable aperture isnt the worst thing in the world.

    2.5. Constant aperture isnt the best thing in the world.

    The hell you say! :smack:crazy Constant-aperture lenses are God's gift to low-light photographers. :D I'd go nuts trying to juggle aperture & shutter speed on a variable-aperture lens when shooting theater; I'm on aperture-priority 99% of the time and I want it to stay where I put it. The mass is a good thing, too--damps camera shake at the marginal shutter speeds you get stuck with in low-light. So repeat after me: constant aperture lenses are a *good* thing.
  • HarveyMushmanHarveyMushman Registered Users Posts: 550 Major grins
    edited April 13, 2007
    My dreams are simple . . .
    Nikon's 200-400/f4 VR for the price of a 50/1.8.
    Tim
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 13, 2007
    The mass is a good thing, too--damps camera shake at the marginal shutter speeds you get stuck with in low-light. So repeat after me: constant aperture lenses are a *good* thing.
    I understand, but Im assuming making it a constant aperture lens would make it both heavier and more expensive, so I'm willing to trade that for a variable aperture :P. Besides, if I'm stuck shooting in low light, I'll just pull out my 50mm prime :P.
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited April 13, 2007
    Nikon's 200-400/f4 VR for the price of a 50/1.8.
    Haha... that would be nice =)

    But do you really want underpaid children assembling your exotic telephoto lenses in sweatshops? :P
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited April 14, 2007
    Well, it would need to be a dream I can afford, so a Canon 5.6 L IS, would be nice. It must have the same unbelievable sharpness of the original though.

    A second choice would be a quality, corner to corner wide prime. Anything in the 10 to 15 range. Which would be a dream I couldn't afford.:cry
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