i will have to clean the thing inside...start using raw & look through the viewfinder instead of the LCD screen to shoot with
This is getting deeper & deeper.
You may also have to use Photoshop or Elements or paintShopPro to get the best out of your shot.
Dunno what the 20D or D70 are like, but the 1D and mkII provide a rich basic material that still needs to be shaped into an excellent photo. Things like saturation, contrast, sharpening need to be done to make the shots sing.
You may also have to use Photoshop or Elements or paintShopPro to get the best out of your shot.
Dunno what the 20D or D70 are like, but the 1D and mkII provide a rich basic material that still needs to be shaped into an excellent photo. Things like saturation, contrast, sharpening need to be done to make the shots sing.
OI....sid
over here mate....dont take anything i say too seriously
From what I have read, the CCD still has an electrostatic charge even with the camera off. Brushes and blowers alone will generally just push the dust around and not really remove them. The eclipse solution and the pads can decrease the charge by wetting action and help to dislodge/remove the dust.
Same here, so far. Do me a favor, please? Go shoot the sky at your smallest aperture, process with autolevels and lets see the result. Don't blow off your sensor first. Just curious...
They are there. No bout-a-doubt it.
Ian
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From what I have read, the CCD still has an electrostatic charge even with the camera off. Brushes and blowers alone will generally just push the dust around and not really remove them. The eclipse solution and the pads can decrease the charge by wetting action and help to dislodge/remove the dust.
mitch
Michael Reichman has reviewed using Eclipse Methyl Alcohol solution and Sensor Swabs and has a good description of the technique on the Luminous Lancscape. He lso recently reviewed the Visible Dust removal Brushes from Canada. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/visible-dust.shtml
I have cleaned my sensors with Eclispe and Sensor Swabs several times without incident, but from what I am reading on the web the brushes from visibledust.com are more effective and certainly seem safer than scrubbing your antialiasing filter with a firm pressure on a Sensor Swab.
Reichman is very emphatic that the VisibleDust brush is his preferred method at this time. There have been extensive discussions of sensor cleaning in the forums on his website, much of it led by Didger who put a big scratch on the sensor in his 1D with a sensor swab and Eclipse. He was not a happy camper. Go to visibledust.com I own three of their brushes.
One yuo use the Visibledust brush it will be very rare that you will need to use Eclipse and Sensor Swabs unless you sneeze into you DSLR while cleaning the sensor
BTW, I mentioned I bent down the sidewall around my sensor with a swab. Looks like when I had the AF calibrated canon fixed that (though I know that didnt cause the miscalibration since the af was off before that). Now the mirror mechanism is broke of course, but that's another matter alltogether.
Richard
From what I have read, the CCD still has an electrostatic charge even with the camera off. Brushes and blowers alone will generally just push the dust around and not really remove them. The eclipse solution and the pads can decrease the charge by wetting action and help to dislodge/remove the dust.
mitch
Theoretically, the Sensor Brush also neutralizes the charge to remove the dust.
And FWIW, CCD = A charge-coupled device (CCD), is an integrated circuit containing an array of linked, or coupled, capacitors. Under the control of an external circuit, each capacitor can transfer its electric charge to one or other of its neighbours. CCDs are used in digital photography and astronomy (particularly in photometry, optical and UV spectroscopy and high speed techniques such as Lucky imaging).
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
BTW, I mentioned I bent down the sidewall around my sensor with a swab. Looks like when I had the AF calibrated canon fixed that (though I know that didnt cause the miscalibration since the af was off before that). Now the mirror mechanism is broke of course, but that's another matter alltogether.
Richard
What a drag, Richard. Now's a good time to upgrade to a 20D.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
From what I have read, the CCD still has an electrostatic charge even with the camera off. Brushes and blowers alone will generally just push the dust around and not really remove them. The eclipse solution and the pads can decrease the charge by wetting action and help to dislodge/remove the dust.
mitch
According to the dry brush kids, the canned air you blow on the brush deals with that. Lots and lots of canned air. Seemed to work for me.
I'd hesitate to recommend against a method without having tried it myself.
What a drag, Richard. Now's a good time to upgrade to a 20D.
If I do upgrade (I should say when, since it's just a matter of my gathering together the money), it will be to a 1D. In the mean time, some super nice FM'er has offered to lend me his spare 10D while my rebel's being fixed so I don't miss the games I was going to shoot thumbsuperclap
Richard
And FWIW, CCD = A charge-coupled device (CCD), is an integrated circuit containing an array of linked, or coupled, capacitors.
FWIW, the Canon DSLR's mostly use CMOS rather than CCD sensors. Now, CMOS sensors got a bad reputation because the worst of the cheapest tv cameras and webcams use CMOS sensors that aren't as good as CCD, however the high end sensors in the Canon 10D, 300D, and 20D are, as everyone should know by now, awesome.
FWIW, the Canon DSLR's mostly use CMOS rather than CCD sensors.
I never said they did.
Nonetheless, they both gather and accumulate charges, therefore they are both susceptible to ESD and have similar dust attracting properties.
In a CCD device, the charge is actually transported across the chip and read at one corner of the array. An analog-to-digital converter turns each pixel's value into a digital value. In most CMOS devices, there are several transistors at each pixel that amplify and move the charge using more traditional wires. The CMOS approach is more flexible because each pixel can be read individually. (from how stuff works)
Hey pierce
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
How offten should the lense be cleaned? How does dust get inside? Does dust get in during lense changes or will dust get in even if you dont change a lense?
How offten should the lense be cleaned? How does dust get inside? Does dust get in during lense changes or will dust get in even if you dont change a lense?
after a day outside, changing lenses, i shoot the sky at f/22 before the light's gone. then i check in photoshop, do autolevels on that shot, you'll see if you need to do a cleaning keep in mind, that *alot* of stuff you'll see in that f/22 sky pic with autolevels will not show up in most pics.
the other indicator is if you see lots of spots in the skies of your landscape pics.
How offten should the lense be cleaned? How does dust get inside? Does dust get in during lense changes or will dust get in even if you dont change a lense?
As Andy said, changing lenses. The site owner, Baldy, once wrote that when he got his D60 and 70-200 f2.8 IS, he was never going to take the lens of the camera, so as to keep the dust motes away.
Often, dust is on the sensor when you buy the camera too. I have dust on my sensor right now, but I don't care since I don't shoot f/22...heck, I don't shoot f/16. I'll clean it when it gets covered in dust (yes, this happens for me, I change lenses a lot).
Richard
Remember to clean the inside of the rear lens cap, dusts gets there too, then goes from there to the lens and from the lens to the sensor. Sheesh, sounds like sensorily transmitted disease! :uhoh
FWIW, my experience is that using a blower just rearranges the dust. I've tried many times, including with the addition of a hand-held vacuum cleaner. I've since concluded that the sensor itself has to be wiped down. I've used the dry brush method once, and it seemed to work.
Not if you go to the gas station
Only kidding. But based on fishy's feed bag, I went ahead and ordered
one of the visible dust thingies. More when it arrives.
Ian
Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
I just turned the body upside down, gave it a big honkin' blowjob with the Giotto rocket, snapped a sky shot, and boom! All the spots are still there.
Another suggestion that I have used successfully is a foot pump like you use to inflate a raft or air mattress.
Have you done a test shot afterwards? If you think about it, you're pumping in air that also has dust motes, and moving things around in there. But you're not actually removing anything. At least, that was my frustrating experience. That's why I bought the Sensor Brush stuff, which worked well.
Have you done a test shot afterwards? If you think about it, you're pumping in air that also has dust motes, and moving things around in there. But you're not actually removing anything. At least, that was my frustrating experience. That's why I bought the Sensor Brush stuff, which worked well.
There's a definte art to blowing dust off the sensor. Doesn't always work but I think done properly, it definetly gets rid of most of the visible mots.
Ian
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There's a definte art to blowing dust off the sensor. Doesn't always work but I think done properly, it definetly gets rid of most of the visible mots.
Yup, that's the 'wet' method. I'm happy with the dry, so far anyway.
Glad to hear that, since I've got a $90 brush on its way to me
Waxy, can you show us yer dust? Obviously it's dark outside, but you should be able to get the same effect by shooting something of consistent light color, like a wall at f22, then autolevels, and let's see it (just out of curiosity, of course...and no cheating with the clone brush :lynn)
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Glad to hear that, since I've got a $90 brush on its way to me
Waxy, can you show us yer dust? Obviously it's dark outside, but you should be able to get the same effect by shooting something of consistent light color, like a wall at f22, then autolevels, and let's see it (just out of curiosity, of course...and no cheating with the clone brush :lynn)
2 things. One, I'm at work and will be for another two hours. Long day. 2/ It's been over a month since I cleaned the sensor, so whatever shot I made wouldn't be a fair representation of the cleaning. I'd have to clean it first, then show you.
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i will have to clean the thing inside...start using raw & look through the viewfinder instead of the LCD screen to shoot with
This is getting deeper & deeper.
Dunno what the 20D or D70 are like, but the 1D and mkII provide a rich basic material that still needs to be shaped into an excellent photo. Things like saturation, contrast, sharpening need to be done to make the shots sing.
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over here mate....dont take anything i say too seriously
Like that?
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They are there. No bout-a-doubt it.
Ian
Michael Reichman has reviewed using Eclipse Methyl Alcohol solution and Sensor Swabs and has a good description of the technique on the Luminous Lancscape. He lso recently reviewed the Visible Dust removal Brushes from Canada. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/visible-dust.shtml
I have cleaned my sensors with Eclispe and Sensor Swabs several times without incident, but from what I am reading on the web the brushes from visibledust.com are more effective and certainly seem safer than scrubbing your antialiasing filter with a firm pressure on a Sensor Swab.
Reichman is very emphatic that the VisibleDust brush is his preferred method at this time. There have been extensive discussions of sensor cleaning in the forums on his website, much of it led by Didger who put a big scratch on the sensor in his 1D with a sensor swab and Eclipse. He was not a happy camper. Go to visibledust.com I own three of their brushes.
One yuo use the Visibledust brush it will be very rare that you will need to use Eclipse and Sensor Swabs unless you sneeze into you DSLR while cleaning the sensor
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Richard
And FWIW, CCD = A charge-coupled device (CCD), is an integrated circuit containing an array of linked, or coupled, capacitors. Under the control of an external circuit, each capacitor can transfer its electric charge to one or other of its neighbours. CCDs are used in digital photography and astronomy (particularly in photometry, optical and UV spectroscopy and high speed techniques such as Lucky imaging).
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I'd hesitate to recommend against a method without having tried it myself.
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Richard
Nonetheless, they both gather and accumulate charges, therefore they are both susceptible to ESD and have similar dust attracting properties.
In a CCD device, the charge is actually transported across the chip and read at one corner of the array. An analog-to-digital converter turns each pixel's value into a digital value. In most CMOS devices, there are several transistors at each pixel that amplify and move the charge using more traditional wires. The CMOS approach is more flexible because each pixel can be read individually. (from how stuff works)
Hey pierce
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All feed back is welcomed!!
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after a day outside, changing lenses, i shoot the sky at f/22 before the light's gone. then i check in photoshop, do autolevels on that shot, you'll see if you need to do a cleaning
the other indicator is if you see lots of spots in the skies of your landscape pics.
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All feed back is welcomed!!
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:lust :lust
Richard
Only kidding. But based on fishy's feed bag, I went ahead and ordered
one of the visible dust thingies. More when it arrives.
Ian
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http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/
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Glad to hear that, since I've got a $90 brush on its way to me
Waxy, can you show us yer dust? Obviously it's dark outside, but you should be able to get the same effect by shooting something of consistent light color, like a wall at f22, then autolevels, and let's see it (just out of curiosity, of course...and no cheating with the clone brush :lynn)
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
2 things. One, I'm at work and will be for another two hours. Long day. 2/ It's been over a month since I cleaned the sensor, so whatever shot I made wouldn't be a fair representation of the cleaning. I'd have to clean it first, then show you.
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