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cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
edited February 10, 2005 in Cameras
Canon EF 500mm f/4L IS USM IS AF Telephoto Lens - Gray Market


It arrives on Thursday :lust

And goes with me to the Philippines and Japan on Saturday



Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    damonffdamonff Registered Users Posts: 1,894 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    woah, that's expensive...enjoy Charles!!! what a beast of a lens! one day I'll be able to afford a lens that's over $300...one day...
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    dkappdkapp Registered Users Posts: 985 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    Congrats on a great lens! I can't wait to see what you can do with this one.

    Dave
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    fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    Congrats, Charles! That's what...$5500USD or so? :yikes


    You'd better make some exemplary images with that thing or we'll be forced to confiscate it from you. :D
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    fish wrote:
    Congrats, Charles! That's what...$5500USD or so? :yikes


    You'd better make some exemplary images with that thing or we'll be forced to confiscate it from you. :D
    $5300 but who is counting.
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    cmr164 wrote:
    $5300 but who is counting.
    You either got a smokin' deal or bought the imported version?
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    fish - mebbe a visit to the eye doc is in order?
    fish wrote:
    You either got a smokin' deal or bought the imported version?

    to they make gogs for fish?

    from chas' orig post:

    Canon EF 500mm f/4L IS USM IS AF Telephoto Lens - Gray Market
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    fish wrote:
    You either got a smokin' deal or bought the imported version?
    There really isn't any difference between grey and USA for Canon. And that is even more true with me moving to the Philippines. Grey is if anything better than US.
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    cmr164 wrote:
    There really isn't any difference between grey and USA for Canon. And that is even more true with me moving to the Philippines. Grey is if anything better than US.

    and this is substantiated by what exactly? most places, including canon marketing themselves, say that the lenses come off the same line.
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    dkappdkapp Registered Users Posts: 985 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    [; really isn't any difference between grey and USA for Canon. And that is even more true with me moving to the Philippines. Grey is if anything better than US.[/QUOTE]

    I was under the assumption that grey & US models are the exact same thing, just marketed for different global markets. To bring prices down, many companies import from overseas to cut out the middleman. I believe I read that from the B&H FAQ section awhile back.

    Dave
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    JohnRJohnR Registered Users Posts: 732 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    nice lens! :O

    Are you moving there permanently or vacation?

    And from what I have heard, gray market won't get any warranty service in the US.
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    andy wrote:
    and this is substantiated by what exactly? most places, including canon marketing themselves, say that the lenses come off the same line.
    The diff is warranty service but for Canon the diff is not significant in the US. The reason better in Philippines is there is no benefit at all from the USA model and it costs $200 more... so grey is $200 better :)
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    JohnR wrote:
    nice lens! :O

    Are you moving there permanently or vacation?

    And from what I have heard, gray market won't get any warranty service in the US.
    Yes
    permanently
    Canon gives warranty service in the US for grey market, which is why grey is the right chioce for Canon stuff.
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    Red BullRed Bull Registered Users Posts: 719 Major grins
    edited February 7, 2005
    eekers.gif Nice lens!!!
    -Steven

    http://redbull.smugmug.com

    "Money can't buy happiness...But it can buy expensive posessions that make other people envious, and that feels just as good.":D

    Canon 20D, Canon 50 1.8 II, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40 f/4 L, Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Canon 430ex.
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    luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited February 8, 2005
    The savings off of the Gray will get you a 2x converter! Great lens, congratulations! clap.gif
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    wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 8, 2005
    Wowee, that's biggg glass. Congratulations Charles. Big move ahead of you, as well. Good luck with it. Be careful over there.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 8, 2005
    Charles,

    Nice lens. You'll enjoy it. But if you shoot with it on a monopod, high speed and
    turn off IS unless you plan on doing a lot of panning (mode 2).

    Ian
    Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2005
    ian408 wrote:
    Charles,

    Nice lens. You'll enjoy it. But if you shoot with it on a monopod, high speed and
    turn off IS unless you plan on doing a lot of panning (mode 2).

    Ian
    I don't use monopods... we will see if I change. and why turn off IS if it is not on a tripod?

    BTW the Adorama/UPS combo is going to be a winner again:

    • Feb 9, 2005 7:36 A.M.
    • SOMERVILLE, MA, US OUT FOR DELIVERY 7:15 A.M.
    • SOMERVILLE, MA, US ARRIVAL SCAN 4:15 A.M.
    • HARTFORD, CT, US DEPARTURE SCAN 1:24 A.M.
    • HARTFORD, CT, US ARRIVAL SCAN Feb 8, 2005 10:56 P.M.
    • NEW YORK, NY, US DEPARTURE SCAN 7:31 P.M.
    • NEW YORK, NY, US FORWARDED TO THE FACILITY IN THE DESTINATION CITY 7:31 P.M.
    • NEW YORK, NY, US ORIGIN SCAN 6:11 P.M.
    Now to just wait for the truck 42.gif
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2005
    I remember when I got my Nikon 300/2.8AF-S lens, it was $5500 and I got next day delivery because I did not want to wait...and the day AFTER I got it, UPS went on strike for weeks. Good call there.

    Oh, I do not think UPS is going to strike on you. :D
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 9, 2005
    cmr164 wrote:
    I don't use monopods... we will see if I change. and why turn off IS if it is not on a tripod?
    I've been finding that I get better results (sharper images) by turning IS off on
    the monopod (for most things). Just my observation.

    Ian

    (has the truck come yet?).
    Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
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    JohnRJohnR Registered Users Posts: 732 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2005
    Why are you moving there?

    Man..that is a huge lens. I'm jealous!
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    USAIRUSAIR Registered Users Posts: 2,646 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2005
    John
    JohnR wrote:
    Why are you moving there?

    Man..that is a huge lens. I'm jealous!
    It's called Lens Envy mwink.gif

    Fred
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 9, 2005
    Lens arrived at 515PM
    Ordered at 5:13 PM delivered at 5:08PM so just less than 24 hours from me calling them to place the order to me receiving it. Great service!

    The box was so big it was like a footlocker. The lens is huge!! I might actually spring for the monopod... umph.gif

    Here is the very first pic.

    ISO1250 , f4 , 1/100 , IS of course

    IH9T7866_s.jpg
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,697 moderator
    edited February 9, 2005
    cmr164 wrote:
    Ordered at 5:13 PM delivered at 5:08PM so just less than 24 hours from me calling them to place the order to me receiving it. Great service!

    The box was so big it was like a footlocker. The lens is huge!! I might actually spring for the monopod... umph.gif

    Here is the very first pic.

    ISO1250 , f4 , 1/100 , IS of course

    IH9T7866_s.jpg


    To use a mono pod or a tripod for this lens you may need a lens plate from reallyrightstuff.com , as the holes in the bottom of the tripod foot are different sized - one is 1/4 -20 and the other is 3/8 I think. Kinesisgear.com makes some nice bags for this lens also CMR :)
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

    Moderator of the Technique Forum and Finishing School on Dgrin
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 10, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    To use a mono pod or a tripod for this lens you may need a lens plate from reallyrightstuff.com , as the holes in the bottom of the tripod foot are different sized - one is 1/4 -20 and the other is 3/8 I think. Kinesisgear.com makes some nice bags for this lens also CMR :)
    For what it's worth, I'm using the monopod sans plate or head.

    Lightware also makes a nice case and rain cover.

    Ian
    Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    To use a mono pod or a tripod for this lens you may need a lens plate from reallyrightstuff.com , as the holes in the bottom of the tripod foot are different sized - one is 1/4 -20 and the other is 3/8 I think. Kinesisgear.com makes some nice bags for this lens also CMR :)
    Walked over to the local Camera's Etc. Hey I had to show it to someone who would appreciate it. The manager is the guy who bought my 100-400L from me. So... I actually was able to sneak this monstrosity into the store without him seeing it. Walked up to the counter and said, "So I finally found a replacement for the 100-400L I sold you." He asks.... and I haul a 1/5 meter of lens/camera up onto the counter to the sound of eyes popping.

    Tried out a monopod... Having both size threads on the lens collar-mount is a good thing. Here are 2 shots of the victim... er buyer of my 100-400L using the monopod.

    ISO 1250 , f4 , 1/160 500mm
    IH9T7871_s.jpg

    ISO 1250 , f4 , 1/160 500mm
    IH9T7872_s.jpg
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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    fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2005
    hey charles, how come those images are OOF? Is the IS working correctly?





















    :uhoh
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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    ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,911 moderator
    edited February 10, 2005
    Fish, get your glasses adjusted deal.gif
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    fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2005
    ian408 wrote:
    Fish, get your glasses adjusted deal.gif
    hush! :lol


    That thing's got a minimum focus distance of FIFTEEN FEET! :eek1
    "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston
    "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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    luckyrweluckyrwe Registered Users Posts: 952 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2005
    fish wrote:
    That thing's got a minimum focus distance of FIFTEEN FEET! :eek1
    Get an extrension tube! lol3.gif
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    cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited February 10, 2005
    fish wrote:
    hush! :lol


    That thing's got a minimum focus distance of FIFTEEN FEET! :eek1
    Sure but you can't fit in a persons head at that distance :D

    IH9T7871_s.jpg
    Charles Richmond IT & Security Consultant
    Operating System Design, Drivers, Software
    Villa Del Rio II, Talamban, Pit-os, Cebu, Ph
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