Off camera flash house-fire

DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
edited May 20, 2007 in Other Cool Shots
I have been to this house a few times trying to decide how to approach it .
Today i took my 10-20mm lens and some wireless flash . I've posted a sample of the picture without flash and then with wireless flash to the side ..
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And then with flash ...

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Don't be shy to tell me how i can do better next time !
Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .

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  • PaulcaoPaulcao Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Just an Idea: Tripod it up, slow the shutter speed and use the natural light. I think it might look nice. ne_nau.gif
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Paulcao wrote:
    Just an Idea: Tripod it up, slow the shutter speed and use the natural light. I think it might look nice. ne_nau.gif
    How do I do that without blowing the window light ?
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • mr peasmr peas Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    How do I do that without blowing the window light ?

    HDR that sucker! I'm sure you can also use a grad. nd filter.
  • PaulcaoPaulcao Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    mr peas wrote:
    HDR that sucker! I'm sure you can also use a grad. nd filter.

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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Paulcao wrote:
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    please explain what "HDR" is supposed to mean ?
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    please explain what "HDR" is supposed to mean ?
    just click on mr peas HDR he gave you a great ref: HDR that sucker!
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    jwear wrote:
    just click on mr peas HDR he gave you a great ref: HDR that sucker!
    OK , High Dynamic Range through blending multiple exposures , that will have to be my next project when I approach that house , for now I'm trying to master off camera flash with wireless triggers . I have disciplined myself not to rely on ttl and auto flash and just set the power manually and ajdust aperture and speed for correct exposure .... in theory . Once I get that right I will do some "cheating" and HDR the image with 5 shots instead of one ..... [ Don't take offense , I know HDR is a respectable approach but the side of my brain that wants to master flash has turned its nose up at the HDR side ... for now ]
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • PaulcaoPaulcao Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    OK , High Dynamic Range through blending multiple exposures , that will have to be my next project when I approach that house , for now I'm trying to master off camera flash with wireless triggers . I have disciplined myself not to rely on ttl and auto flash and just set the power manually and ajdust aperture and speed for correct exposure .... in theory . Once I get that right I will do some "cheating" and HDR the image with 5 shots instead of one ..... [ Don't take offense , I know HDR is a respectable approach but the side of my brain that wants to master flash has turned its nose up at the HDR side ... for now ]

    Yeah, I understand. Sorry for steering you away from your focus on leaning flash...hehe
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 18, 2007
    Paulcao wrote:
    Yeah, I understand. Sorry for steering you away from your focus on leaning flash...hehe
    It is good to be mindfulof the future but not at the expense of the present young Annakin !
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    OK , High Dynamic Range through blending multiple exposures , that will have to be my next project when I approach that house , for now I'm trying to master off camera flash with wireless triggers . I have disciplined myself not to rely on ttl and auto flash and just set the power manually and ajdust aperture and speed for correct exposure .... in theory . Once I get that right I will do some "cheating" and HDR the image with 5 shots instead of one ..... [ Don't take offense , I know HDR is a respectable approach but the side of my brain that wants to master flash has turned its nose up at the HDR side ... for now ]

    Do you have a flash meter....or are you just guessing at what should the settings be.....

    I still use a meter on 99.9% of all of my flash work....un;ess for some reason the meter is left behind and I grabbed the 100' tape measure in stead and decide to calculate by g-number......but still I prefer the flash meter approach.
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Art Scott wrote:
    Do you have a flash meter....or are you just guessing at what should the settings be.....

    I still use a meter on 99.9% of all of my flash work....un;ess for some reason the meter is left behind and I grabbed the 100' tape measure in stead and decide to calculate by g-number......but still I prefer the flash meter approach.

    My first attempt at off camera flash was with the Nikon's cls wireless flash ttl system . I am now trying to follow strobist's advice : Set the flash on half or full power , too dim ? open the aperture , too bright ? close the aperture ..... need more ambient , slower shutter ... though on this shot I metered for the window and fired the flash on full power and never had much time to play with other settings ....
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • HinsonHinson Registered Users Posts: 219 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Desmond, I would suggest lowering the power on the flash so that it more closely equals the ambient light comeing in from outside. Possibly diffusing it a bit might help also. I would say to bounce it but black charred wood doesn't reflect light to good

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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Hinson wrote:
    Desmond, I would suggest lowering the power on the flash so that it more closely equals the ambient light comeing in from outside. Possibly diffusing it a bit might help also. I would say to bounce it but black charred wood doesn't reflect light to good <G>

    Hinson
    I now have a flash stand and umbrella holder , maybe if I fired it through my white umbrella ?
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • HinsonHinson Registered Users Posts: 219 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    I now have a flash stand and umbrella holder , maybe if I fired it through my white umbrella ?

    That would help tremendously. Not only would it diffuse the light, but would spread it over a larger area.

    Hinson
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Hinson wrote:
    That would help tremendously. Not only would it diffuse the light, but would spread it over a larger area.

    Hinson
    What if I fired it through a piece of red plastic !
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • HinsonHinson Registered Users Posts: 219 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    What if I fired it through a piece of red plastic !

    I'm not sure what effect that would have. Try and see.
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 19, 2007
    ok I went back with the white umbrella , the 17-50 lens was on at the time . With the sb24 on full power through the white umbrella the light was more diffused but I had to keep the speed down to 1/200th and at that aperture the flash was a bit dim .....
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    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • HinsonHinson Registered Users Posts: 219 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    ok I went back with the white umbrella , the 17-50 lens was on at the time . With the sb24 on full power through the white umbrella the light was more diffused but I had to keep the speed down to 1/200th and at that aperture the flash was a bit dim .....

    Yes, but unless you are shooting evidence photography where you need every detail, this appears more natural to me. It is not readily apparent that you used an off camera flash and that is the idea.

    Hinson
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2007
    Hinson wrote:
    Yes, but unless you are shooting evidence photography where you need every detail, this appears more natural to me. It is not readily apparent that you used an off camera flash and that is the idea.

    Hinson
    That's good .But I suppose if I wanted it brighter that would involve an extra flash or one more powerful flash . I took a few shots to "HDR" it but haven't put them together yet , I noticed a huge green flare when I went to longer exposure .
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
  • HinsonHinson Registered Users Posts: 219 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2007
    Desmond wrote:
    That's good .But I suppose if I wanted it brighter that would involve an extra flash or one more powerful flash . I took a few shots to "HDR" it but haven't put them together yet , I noticed a huge green flare when I went to longer exposure .

    Yes, or you could just cheat and do a levels adjustment. Laughing.gif
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  • DesmondDesmond Registered Users Posts: 187 Major grins
    edited May 20, 2007
    Hinson wrote:
    Yes, or you could just cheat and do a levels adjustment. Laughing.gif

    I'll let you choose between a silver bullet and a stake through your heart eek7.gifrolleyes1.gif .
    I suppose that is an option BUT , I would also like to be able to do it without the help of PS if possible .thumb.gif
    Nikon D80 , D50 , SB600 , SB800 , Nikon 18-200VR , Tamron 28-75 di 2.8 , Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 , Nikon 50mm 1.8 . Tamron 17-50 f2.8 , Nikon 70-200 VR f2.8 .
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