SF idea

NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
edited May 24, 2007 in The Dgrin Challenges
Flamenco

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  • pemmettpemmett Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Nice idea and good lighting:D. But the hand just looks strange rather than it's playing the guitar.eek7.gif Did you use a strobe light?headscratch.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    pemmett wrote:
    Nice idea and good lighting:D. But the hand just looks strange rather than it's playing the guitar.eek7.gif Did you use a strobe light?headscratch.gif
    Thanks!
    Believe it or not, I was playing..:-)
    It's strobe idea, but not a strobe per se..
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  • DalantechDalantech Registered Users Posts: 1,519 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    I like it -but I think the hand shows too much motion. Can you re-shoot with a little faster shutter, or set the flash to second curtain sync?... mwink.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Dalantech wrote:
    I like it -but I think the hand shows too much motion. Can you re-shoot with a little faster shutter, or set the flash to second curtain sync?... mwink.gif
    Thanks!
    You mean - faster than 12 seconds? mwink.gif
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  • pemmettpemmett Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Thanks!
    You mean - faster than 12 seconds? mwink.gif
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    I reckon that 11.5 seconds would nail it rolleyes1.gif
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  • SwartzySwartzy Registered Users Posts: 3,293 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Agreed
    A bit faster shutter speed would be good....take the ND filter off Nik rolleyes1.gif
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  • richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    I like it! thumb.gif

    But I think it needs motion blur centered around your fingers rather than the "ghostly" blur you have created centered around your hand.

    I'd defintely try a reshoot with a faster shutter speed.
  • sunitasunita Registered Users Posts: 210 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    I agree with Linda. The motion blur would be better focused on the wrist and fingers than the entire hand. Also moving the camera a little to the right may give a better angle?! headscratch.gif

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  • DalantechDalantech Registered Users Posts: 1,519 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Thanks!
    You mean - faster than 12 seconds? mwink.gif
    lol3.gif

    Holy cow Nik -you can almost play an entire song in 12 seconds! :D
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  • richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Dalantech wrote:
    Holy cow Nik -you can almost play an entire song in 12 seconds! :D

    Yep, I guess he can pretty much guarantee us it wasn't the "Minute Walz" by Chopin. rolleyes1.gif
  • kingmamaof2kingmamaof2 Registered Users Posts: 195 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Cool idea Nik! What nails it is the sharp sharp guitar with the motion blur. I like it and would love to see more if you do a reshoot. Good job!
  • pemmettpemmett Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    I can't see the strings moving eek7.gif Are you really playing?headscratch.gifrolleyes1.gif
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  • seastackseastack Registered Users Posts: 716 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Great, great idea.

    I agree there is too much motion, or at least the motion is too complicated. I've been toying around with the idea of getting an inexpensive variable strobe light (Spencer's Gifts?) - didn't we all have one in the 70's - to create some stylized motion shots myself. That could create distinct and consistently placed steps of sharp but still translucent hand moving through the motion of strumming the guitar, and would significantly reduce the shutter speed to better ensure a sharper guitar. Make sense? Might be worth a shot, so to speak. mwink.gif
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Thanks guys!
    I appreciate the feedback. thumb.gif
    I will try to reshoot...
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  • LiquidAirLiquidAir Registered Users Posts: 1,751 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Howabout putting that 1D mark III on autofire and blending on photoshop.... mwink.gif

    I agree with the other posters about the motion blur. My suggestion is when planning the shot, think about telling a clear story with the motion blur. As it is, the shot feels like you are experimenting with technique rather than using the technique to communicate.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    LiquidAir wrote:
    Howabout putting that 1D mark III on autofire and blending on photoshop.... mwink.gif

    I agree with the other posters about the motion blur. My suggestion is when planning the shot, think about telling a clear story with the motion blur. As it is, the shot feels like you are experimenting with technique rather than using the technique to communicate.

    Yeah, I wish... I'm like $3,999 short:-)

    I'll try to decrease the blur on the wrist..
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  • ChrisJChrisJ Registered Users Posts: 2,164 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Can't add much to what's already been said, but I do think it's a cool shot. Just tweak it a bit...
    Chris
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 22, 2007
    Chris,
    ChrisJ wrote:
    Can't add much to what's already been said, but I do think it's a cool shot. Just tweak it a bit...
    Thanks! thumb.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    Take 2
    Flamenco

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  • pyroPrints.compyroPrints.com Registered Users Posts: 1,383 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Flamenco

    I like it, but I think you can shoot a higher caliber shot for the semi-final ne_nau.gif
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  • pemmettpemmett Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    I like it, but I think you can shoot a higher caliber shot for the semi-final ne_nau.gif

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  • SmashtoadSmashtoad Registered Users Posts: 17 Big grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    The Guitar Shot
    The lighting is good and the guitar is beautiful...but the hand motions used to play the flamenco style are not attractive in motion...it's confusing to the eye. The creative use of a pensive or morose child holding the guitar might be a better direction. Anyway, that's what came to me.
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    Pyro, Pemmet, Smash,
    Thanks guys, appreciate the honesty:-)!thumb.gif
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  • RobertRobert Registered Users Posts: 148 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    Take 2
    Nikolai wrote:
    Flamenco
    I like the second shot, the light is better. But it bothers me that the strings don’t show any sign of motion.
    Robert
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2007
    Robert,
    Robert wrote:
    I like the second shot, the light is better. But it bothers me that the strings don’t show any sign of motion.

    Good point, thanks!thumb.gif
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  • annnna8888annnna8888 Registered Users, Super Moderators Posts: 936 SmugMug Employee
    edited May 24, 2007
    I like the second try better, but it's still not quite there. I'd try with a shorter exposure to make the fingers less blurry, and the movement of the strings should also be visible.

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2007
    Ana,
    annnna8888 wrote:
    I like the second try better, but it's still not quite there. I'd try with a shorter exposure to make the fingers less blurry, and the movement of the strings should also be visible.

    Ana

    Thank you! Appreciate the feedback! thumb.gif
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  • richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2007
    Nikolai,

    Instread of strumming, play something that requires you to pick. This way the hand is steady and the motion will be in the fingers and strings. mwink.gif
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2007
    Linda,
    richtersl wrote:
    Nikolai,

    Instread of strumming, play something that requires you to pick. This way the hand is steady and the motion will be in the fingers and strings. mwink.gif

    Thank you! thumb.gif
    The technicalities of this shot are way not what it appears to be.
    But I get the direction of what you're saying...mwink.gif
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