So its about that time again

DanielB

i've been kinda out of touch with the whole Camera news scene so i need you more informed buyers to give me help! its been awhile since i've been real active here on dgrin but i'm hoping to change that starting now.:D

so. my 10D just isn't cutting it anymore. i want low light capablity and amazing color rendition. i want more megapixels than my current 6, and i want one that i can take everywhere with me. it doesn't need to be light cause i'm a big fella and i can carry stuff around. it needs to be reasonably priced but i'm willing to give a little. when i upgrade i'm gonna be selling my 10D and grip so i need help figuring out how much i'll probably be able to get for it. i have about 700 dollars saved up at the moment not including what i could get for my 10D. so let the suggestions flow! oh. and i want a camera that will take full advantage of my L lenses' capabilities.:deal


thanks all,
DanB

Nikolai

Dan,
Used 30Ds are frequent trade items on FMs (I mean both Fred Miranda and the local Flea Market :-). If you sell your 10D first you'll be able to get nice copy of 30D, and maybe some extra stuff like a grip, an L-bracket (well, you'd need a tripod and a head for this, too), or an Optech strap (all highly recommended).
That is unless you are ready to enter the 1Dx series world, but that's the land where you'd need more like $7,000 to get really comfortable.
HTH

DanielB

Nikolai wrote:

Used 30Ds are frequent trade items on FMs (I mean both Fred Miranda and the local Flea Market :-). If you sell your 10D first you'll be able to get nice copy of 30D, and maybe some extra stuff like a grip, an L-bracket (well, you'd need a tripod and a head for this, too), or an Optech strap (all highly recommended).
That is unless you are ready to enter the 1Dx series world, but that's the land where you'd need more like $7,000 to get really comfortable.
HTH

Nikolai how would a 1d MkII compare to a 30D in preformance? obviously the FPS would be a step up and such but how are the censors different and all those juicy details cause if they're relatively the same then i think i'd probably go for the more durable 1D mkII because of how much i camp

Nikolai

Dan,

DanielB wrote:

Nikolai how would a 1d MkII compare to a 30D in preformance? obviously the FPS would be a step up and such but how are the censors different and all those juicy details cause if they're relatively the same then i think i'd probably go for the more durable 1D mkII because of how much i camp

You've specified your budget being about $700. I haven't seen 1DMkII in this price range yet. It's still more like $2,100 (used). Rutt sold his for $1,800, IIRC, and that was a total steal.
More money - more options. You can't require the feature set of the high end camera for the entry level price. I mean, you can try, but you probaly wouldn't get any takers
Sorry, man, it's an expensive hobby you get yourself

Manfr3d

DanielB wrote:

i've been kinda out of touch with the whole Camera news scene so i need you more informed buyers to give me help! its been awhile since i've been real active here on dgrin but i'm hoping to change that starting now.:D

so. my 10D just isn't cutting it anymore. i want low light capablity and amazing color rendition. i want more megapixels than my current 6, and i want one that i can take everywhere with me. it doesn't need to be light cause i'm a big fella and i can carry stuff around. it needs to be reasonably priced but i'm willing to give a little. when i upgrade i'm gonna be selling my 10D and grip so i need help figuring out how much i'll probably be able to get for it. i have about 700 dollars saved up at the moment not including what i could get for my 10D. so let the suggestions flow! oh. and i want a camera that will take full advantage of my L lenses' capabilities.


thanks all,
DanB

I think color retention and low light capability are already present in the
10D. I've taken (technicaly) good pictures at ISO 3200. If these two features
are your only gripes, you would probably be better off (and cheaper) by
investing in a colorimeter and by using a noise reduction software like the
free NoiseWare (Community Edition) or NoiseNinja. Both are available as PS
Plugins too.

But if you want more megapixel (and a faster camera) you can't go wrong
with a 20D or 30D. The 30D has only a small edge over the 20D with its larger
LCD and its spotmeter. Beware though that neither of these cameras
will feel as solid as the 10D and that if you intend to double the maximum
print size of the photos of your 6MP camera (say from A3 to A2) you'll also
need to double the megapixel. That would be 12MP ... Canon 5D (tough
build like the 10D) but it's almost triple the price of a used 20D. In euope
the 10D+BG sells for 400~450 eur btw. Another option is the Canon 400D,
it feels more cheap but has 10MP. And sells new for the price of a used 20D/30D.

Good luck decideing.

DanielB

Nikolai wrote:

You've specified your budget being about $700. I haven't seen 1DMkII in this price range yet. It's still more like $2,100 (used). Rutt sold his for $1,800, IIRC, and that was a total steal.
More money - more options. You can't require the feature set of the high end camera for the entry level price. I mean, you can try, but you probaly wouldn't get any takers
Sorry, man, it's an expensive hobby you get yourself

:nah not only a 700 dollar budget i figure once i get rid of my current camera i might abve around 1k-1,100 dollars plus whatever i can raise over the summer to help me out. this isn't a do or die, need it right now, decision. just something to look forward to for the near future. oh, and i turn 16 in September so i might be able to sweet talk the parents

claudermilk

So with that budget, it definitely looksl ike a 20D/30D. 20D will give you some change, 30D will require a bit more. Either one is much closer than any 1D.

ian408

There's a difference between the 5/10/20/30d and it's 1d cousin(s). Whether
you really need that or not depends. Of course, frame rate, a better sensor
weight and water resistant nature of the body are things to consider.

If you don't shoot in the rain/moisture or need a super fast frame rate, then
the 20/30d would be a great camera for you. As far as buying used, you can
definitely save some money.

As far as which you should buy, that depends but the choices you have are
pretty awesome. Especially in the 5/20/30d lineup.

DanielB

yeah, another thing i was kinda wanting to get out of was the whole 1.6X crop range. i realize 1.3x isn't that big of a difference up front but from talking to people that have made the switch it sounds worth it. especially since the majority of the stuff i do is landscapes/Macro.

ziggy53

DanielB wrote:

yeah, another thing i was kinda wanting to get out of was the whole 1.6X crop range. i realize 1.3x isn't that big of a difference up front but from talking to people that have made the switch it sounds worth it. especially since the majority of the stuff i do is landscapes/Macro.

Daniel,

Now that there are competent crop 1.6x lenses (EF-S and the like) in the 10-20mm-ish range, there is not so much need to go full-frame to do ultra wide vista landscapes. Digital image stitchery is also a very viable and valuable tool.

Most folks like the crop 1.6x/1.5x cameras for macro work because the magnification is increased, as well as DOF, versus crop 1.3x and FF cameras at similar focal lengths and settings.