Huey / Printer/ CS2

Pamela

I finally got Huey Pantone. There is a noticeable difference.
Now that I have the calibration, what is next?

Do I need to change any color settings / or other in CS2?
Using epson printer , do I change color management or gamma setting .
Also , the huey came with 1.0 software , and it wont let me open the perferences , is says, "error". I went to download the update and it wont download from the site.

SloYerRoll

Pamela wrote:

I finally got Huey Pantone. There is a noticeable difference.
Now that I have the calibration, what is next?

Do I need to change any color settings / or other in CS2?
Using epson printer , do I change color management or gamma setting .
Also , the huey came with 1.0 software , and it wont let me open the perferences , is says, "error". I went to download the update and it wont download from the site.

Go to this link and scroll down to the chapter that reads, "Color Management for People Who Really Aren't Interested" It's well worth the read, be ready to take some notes though.

If you have any questions after that. I'll be happy to help.

-Jon

Pamela

SloYerRoll wrote:

Go to this link and scroll down to the chapter that reads, "Color Management for People Who Really Aren't Interested" It's well worth the read, be ready to take some notes though.

If you have any questions after that. I'll be happy to help.

-Jon

Thank you
I read it , the more I read the more confusing ,lol
Here is a link to the settings im using , how do these look.
I have my camera set to RGB, and Huey calibration.



www.exposed-images.smugmug.com/gallery/2963549

SloYerRoll

This only shows me one part of a bigger color picture. No worries though.

This will take a little bit to get dialed in. Once it's done though, no additional tweaking and you'll know what your going to get when you hit 'print'.

Make sure you have the most current printer profile for your epson. Click here, find your printer and make sure yours is up to date.

Answer these questions then we'll go from there:

• What kind of camera do you use?
• Do you use an LCD or CRT monitor?
• Would you rather publish/print your shots right out of the camera or do you like sit down w/ something like photoshop or capture NX and work on the colors etc.?
• Which do you prefer: Close color matching w/ minimal steps or get your shots as close as possible to your display. (there is some 3rd party print software that I feel is better than most editing programs)
  

After this, we'll go over how to soft proof and start to manage your color spaces from camera to printer.

-Jon

Pamela

Jon


I use a rebel xt - rgb setting
LCD - calibrated with Huey Pantone.
I have been trying out raw lately- but with jpg, and I do use photoshop to make some changes. I dont always make changes to every photo. Im will be
starting to use digital for my weddings when I get all settings correct, I will not be printing all of them, smugmug will be mostly printing. The ones I will be printing will be for the photobooks. I do print the local stuff.

As far as profile , is that the driver that Im looking for? When I got my new macbook last sept- I had a heck of a time getting a driver for this epson rx620, i do have the driver that they list.

SloYerRoll

Pamela wrote:

I use a rebel xt - rgb setting

There's two different types of rgb color modes for xt's that I've read about, make sure yours is on Adobe RGB

Pamela wrote:

LCD - calibrated with Huey Pantone.

Make sure you tell Huey to use the LCD's native white point when calibrating. You also want to make sure to set your Gamma to 2.2

Pamela wrote:

I have been trying out raw lately- but with jpg, and I do use photoshop to make some changes. I dont always make changes to every photo.

Once you get the hang of RAW it's great. It's time consuming, but worth every extra second spent.

Pamela wrote:

As far as profile , is that the driver that Im looking for? When I got my new macbook last sept- I had a heck of a time getting a driver for this epson rx620, i do have the driver that they list.

If your profile is up to date. Don't concern yourself w/ this. Mightt be a good idea to bookmark this page and check for updates periodically though.

After you go through these things. Do a few test prints and send a few shots to SM for printing to see where your color is at compared to your display. Make sure you send pictures heavy on the primary colors (Red, Blue, Green)

Please note: whatever paper type you are going to use for finished products, make sure you use that paper type when doing test prints. You can calibrate to perfection using sub standard paper then switch over to your "real" paper and get horrible results. Better to waste a few sheets while getting this dialed in.

Pamela

Jon

Im sorry im using the sRGB camera setting , not Adobe RGB.
When I calibrated the Huey , I dont remember if I had a native point choice.
But, I will recalibrate in case.

What do you mean by this :
"Make sure you send pictures heavy on the primary colors (Red, Blue, Green)" Never mind I realize what you're saying, I read it too fast.


Edit: I recalibrated, I didnt get to pick native choice- in monitor setting it shows hueyD65.G2.2 A0.00setting.
In photoshop under color settings: should the gray be set to gamma 2.2 . If so what should the spot be set to.
I added more photos to the link, showing what my settings are set to.
www.exposed-images.smugmug.com/gallery/2963549

SloYerRoll

No need to be sorry Pam.

Since I can't look at your machine. I think it's time to print some tests and see what you come up w/.
After you hit the print button though. Hit CMD + Y. This will give you a 'soft proof' version of what photoshop will think your print will look like. What this really does is convert your working color space from RGB to CMYK w/o affecting the image.
You can toggle back and forth between color spaces by hitting CMD + Y.

You can tell what color mode your in by looking at the title of the picture in photoshop. After the zoom percentage in the title you'll see (RGB/8) or (RGB/8/CMYK) the latter is the 'soft proof' for you to reference.

There are many other ways of soft proofing. But this will definately get you close enough until you get everything dialed in a litle bit further.

So:
Print
Switch to CMYK view
Hold print up to monitor
We'll go from there

Please take into account what kind of light bulbs are lighting your room. If youhave standard CFL's (energy saver light bulbs) your image will have an blue/green tint to it. If your using a sodium vapor or standerd light bulb, your image will look more orange.
Spend a couple buks and get some GE reveal® lightbulbs. They cast a nice natural light and will help proofing allot.

-Jon

Pamela

SloYerRoll wrote:

No need to be sorry Pam.

Since I can't look at your machine. I think it's time to print some tests and see what you come up w/.
After you hit the print button though. Hit CMD + Y. This will give you a 'soft proof' version of what photoshop will think your print will look like. What this really does is convert your working color space from RGB to CMYK w/o affecting the image.
You can toggle back and forth between color spaces by hitting CMD + Y.

You can tell what color mode your in by looking at the title of the picture in photoshop. After the zoom percentage in the title you'll see (RGB/8) or (RGB/8/CMYK) the latter is the 'soft proof' for you to reference.

There are many other ways of soft proofing. But this will definately get you close enough until you get everything dialed in a litle bit further.

So:
Print
Switch to CMYK view
Hold print up to monitor
We'll go from there

Please take into account what kind of light bulbs are lighting your room. If youhave standard CFL's (energy saver light bulbs) your image will have an blue/green tint to it. If your using a sodium vapor or standerd light bulb, your image will look more orange.
Spend a couple buks and get some GE reveal® lightbulbs. They cast a nice natural light and will help proofing allot.

-Jon

Jon

Thank you

Im so sorry to wait so long to reply ( our Daughter is graduating this week:D )

Ok so I toggled to soft proof and printed. The saturation is slightly better on the print then what I see on the screen. Actually it looks very nice. I am pleased with the printed CMYK version.
Where do we go from here?
Thanks again for your time and expertise.

SloYerRoll

If your pleased w/ the prints, enjoy your printer!

The reason the appearant saturation on your print vs. your monitor is that your print is reflecting light and your monitor is projecting color. Make sence?

No use in reinventing the wheel if your prints are coming out the way you like.

I'll be happy to help if you want to dial your color calibration further. Sounds like your in pretty good shape though.

All the best.
-Jon