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jayjay Registered Users Posts: 64 Big grins
edited July 20, 2007 in Digital Darkroom
24" 3 gigs of ram intel core 2 duo hard to make this machine even break a sweat!I love it!9db77f27.jpg
jm photography

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2007
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  • claudermilkclaudermilk Registered Users Posts: 2,756 Major grins
    edited July 15, 2007
    Nice setup. But...Mac? Nope, not my dream....blbl.gif
  • jayjay Registered Users Posts: 64 Big grins
    edited July 15, 2007
    Nice setup. But...Mac? Nope, not my dream....blbl.gif
    haha i got windows vista and xp on it but i dont ever use it ne_nau.gif
    jm photography
  • rdlugoszrdlugosz Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2007
    jay wrote:
    haha i got windows vista and xp on it but i dont ever use it ne_nau.gif
    You'd be fine in XP, but if my experiences with the new workstation I built are any indication stay FAR, FAR, FAR away from Vista!! CS3 ran like an absolute DOG when compared to Windows XP, where it runs just fine (quite fast, actually). Mind you, this is a pretty fast machine with 4GB RAM and SATAII drives...

    There were just weird pauses and things like that in Photoshop (at really strange times - like when simply moving a layer you may have CS3 go busy for 5 seconds or so & sometimes not). Only in Vista, never in XP.

    I've done quite a bit of research & the interesting factoid that I discovered was that "no new version of Windows has ever matched or beaten the performance of its predecessor". I'm paraphrasing that from the Windows Perfromance Blog. Makes sense actually - they add a ton of new features to each new version of the OS and count on folks to be using the newest hardware available... But you compare the new vs. old on modern hardware and the old will smoke it every time. The site Tom's Hardware Guide also has some detailed side-by-side benchmarks illustrating this point further.

    Anyway, I've settled on Windows XP SP2 for my new workstation. It's extremely fast, stable, and there is robust driver/software support from everyone out there. Such is not the case with Vista.

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  • jayjay Registered Users Posts: 64 Big grins
    edited July 18, 2007
    yeah ive been fiddling round in vista today to learn a little i dont like it at all nice icons thats about it. i did find a dvd i couldnt burn in toast on OSX so i got it done in xp rolleyes1.gif
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  • colourboxcolourbox Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited July 18, 2007
    rdlugosz wrote:
    I've done quite a bit of research & the interesting factoid that I discovered was that "no new version of Windows has ever matched or beaten the performance of its predecessor".

    Wow. That's the opposite of everyone's experience with OS X. Each major version actually runs faster than the one before. Newer versions make my 6-year-old Mac run more smoothly.

    (To be fair to Windows, that is not necessarily because Apple engineers know some kind of secret. OS X was rather slow in the beginning, and the increased speed is probably because of careful optimizations over time. Windows may have been better optimized in the beginning, and OS X may only have been working up to where it should have been in the first place.)
  • cabbeycabbey Registered Users Posts: 1,053 Major grins
    edited July 19, 2007
    colourbox wrote:
    Wow. That's the opposite of everyone's experience with OS X. Each major version actually runs faster than the one before. Newer versions make my 6-year-old Mac run more smoothly.

    Sadly, I think 10.4 on a G3 broke that pattern. It's certainly not any better, and might be slightly worse in some aspects. But otherwise, yeah... each one has only gotten better. I'm looking forward to 10.5 for my G5 and G4.
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  • rdlugoszrdlugosz Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited July 20, 2007
    cabbey wrote:
    Sadly, I think 10.4 on a G3 broke that pattern. It's certainly not any better, and might be slightly worse in some aspects. But otherwise, yeah... each one has only gotten better. I'm looking forward to 10.5 for my G5 and G4.
    Yea - I think it's more a matter of a change in focus rather than any kind of lack in quality. MS's operating systems typically have added several new layers of services (Vista adds things like a phishing filter, spyware blocker, startup program manager, better driver search, more robust indexing, etc.), which all require more system resources - on new hardware you may not think it's "slow" but if you compare it head-to-head on the same hardware with XP then it is. Mac OS X, on the other hand, has been focusing on optimizing their new (ish) UNIX platform & have the benefit (mostly through obscurity) of not needing to address issues like spyware and viruses.

    Honestly, I actually wish CS3 ran acceptably on Vista, because I'd rather use the more recent OS. Eventually all MS users will have to upgrade in order to remain on a supported platform. Fortunately, this will be many years down the road. There ARE several Vista enhancements that I'd love to be able to use:

    1. Enhanced versioning filesystem. The filesystem automatically keeps previous versions of all files that you modify on your system. That means if you accidentally save some changes that you didn't want you're able to right-click on a file and "view previous versions". Very similar to the VMS filesystem if you've ever used a VAX system :)

    2. "SpeedBoost" or whatever it's called... This is a learning prefetch system that pays attention to what programs you tend to use. Then, it preemptively loads all of the files those programs need into any unused RAM - with this enabled firefox starts (from a cold start) nearly instantly, since all of the program files are already in RAM. Pretty cool feature.

    One final note - I believe that the CS3 problems are Adobe's problem, not MS's! I'd expect to see some future updates from Adobe that improve things.
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