Can this eye be out of focus???

melissa6631melissa6631 Registered Users Posts: 158 Major grins
edited August 2, 2007 in People
I took this picture of my daughter yesterday but the one eye is out of focus. I am kicking myself because I think it's a pretty good picture other wise.

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Missy Ü

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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    This image was taken with the EF 50 f/1.8 at f/1.8. Given the size of her face in the image, I'm guessing you were pretty close to her when you took the picture. All of that adds up to a very, very shallow depth of field.

    In addition, the focal plane seems to be somewhere between the tip of her nose and her left eye.

    So, yes, given those conditions, it's quite easy to understand why one eye seems to be in focus and the other not.
  • melissa6631melissa6631 Registered Users Posts: 158 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    This image was taken with the EF 50 f/1.8 at f/1.8. Given the size of her face in the image, I'm guessing you were pretty close to her when you took the picture. All of that adds up to a very, very shallow depth of field.

    In addition, the focal plane seems to be somewhere between the tip of her nose and her left eye.

    So, yes, given those conditions, it's quite easy to understand why one eye seems to be in focus and the other not.


    I love the sharpness of her left eye. and I want to get more shots like that. I'm not quite sure how else to obtain then other than getting close. I feel if I get farther back, I will lose the detail in her eyelashes etc. So How would i go about getting the detail, keeping her all in focus and still having a nice picture?


    Is this photo keepable with only one eye in focus?
    Missy Ü
  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    I love the sharpness of her left eye. and I want to get more shots like that. I'm not quite sure how else to obtain then other than getting close. I feel if I get farther back, I will lose the detail in her eyelashes etc. So How would i go about getting the detail, keeping her all in focus and still having a nice picture?
    To get a deep Depth of Field (DOF), all you need to do is stop down the lens a bit. Instead of setting your aperture to 1.8, try something like 4.0 or 5.6. Of course, you will need to decrease your shutter speed to compensate, but that shouldn't be much of a problem. You shot your picture at 1/125, so you have lot's of "room" left before you get down to 1/50. If you need to, you can boost your ISO a stop to compensate as well.
    Is this photo keepable with only one eye in focus?
    Uhhh, yeah! This is a very cute shot with lots of personality showing. I would keep it and print it up for display. Nice photo.
  • SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    Angle shots are tricky...be sure and focus between her eyes.
  • pyrtekpyrtek Registered Users Posts: 539 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    Since it's your daughter, you can reshoot as many times as you want (or
    as many times as she'll let you, rather :)). Take Scott's excellent advice
    next time and you'll easily end up with a winner. Having said that, if you
    really want to try to save this picture, I think it's doable by copying
    her left eye, flipping it an replacing her right eye with it. Some scaling, some
    curves on the replaced eye and a few other minor tweaks and it should look
    OK. In the end, though, a reshoot is definitely the way to go. Nothing can
    replace a properly photographed, errr, photograph.
  • ~Jan~~Jan~ Registered Users Posts: 966 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    That's your daughter? Just bribe her to do that same post and shoot again w/ a higher f/stop. Laughing.gif I think she's GORGEOUS!
  • melissa6631melissa6631 Registered Users Posts: 158 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    ~Jan~ wrote:
    That's your daughter? Just bribe her to do that same post and shoot again w/ a higher f/stop. Laughing.gif I think she's GORGEOUS!


    Thanks! I think she's gorgeous, too! :)

    I guess I'll try to retake it. To be honest I never even looked at the settings. I was only adjusting stuff so that the flash wouldn't turn on Laughing.gif
    Missy Ü
  • ~Jan~~Jan~ Registered Users Posts: 966 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    Thanks! I think she's gorgeous, too! :)

    I guess I'll try to retake it. To be honest I never even looked at the settings. I was only adjusting stuff so that the flash wouldn't turn on Laughing.gif

    What mode were you using? Full auto? Try AV mode. Set your f/stop to 2.5 or so and try again!
  • evorywareevoryware Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    I didn't think there was anything wrong with having the front-most eye in focus and the rest out...
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  • Scott_QuierScott_Quier Registered Users Posts: 6,524 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    evoryware wrote:
    I didn't think there was anything wrong with having the front-most eye in focus and the rest out...
    There's not, but it's one of those thing - season to taste. Some don't like, others don't mind.
  • LiquidAirLiquidAir Registered Users Posts: 1,751 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    There's not, but it's one of those thing - season to taste. Some don't like, others don't mind.

    Indeed. I like it in some shots but not others.

    I have found that focus with very wide apertures takes lots of practice and some trickery. To get the focus the way I want it I find I need to really think about what parts of the image I want in focus and choose my my focus point carefully to achieve the desired effect. Keep at it; be concious at all times of what aperture you are using and review your images quickly to evaluate how you are doing.
  • mr peasmr peas Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2007
    I think my glasses are broken.
  • Wet OregonWet Oregon Registered Users Posts: 14 Big grins
    edited August 2, 2007
    Can this eye be out of focus
    Most people look you in the eye---even when glancing at a photograph; so IF the eyes are sharp everything else will appear sharp to the viewer.

    In the case of the photograph in question the closest eye to the camera/viewer is sharp so you are almost there.

    If you want to continue photographing at f1.8 step back from the subject so you have a little more depth of field.

    I endorse what an earlier poster said about decreasing the shutter speed for a 2.8 or f4 aperature...just because you own a 50mm f 1.8 doesn't mean you have take the pictures wide open....

    nice looking young daughter who you should re-photograph ASAP
  • chopskychopsky Registered Users Posts: 104 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2007
    It's not necessary to step back. If you want to get that close up shot, just drop it down to around 2.8 like others have been saying and take it again. You obviously want the background out of focus. Whether you go closer at 2.8 or slightly further away at 1.8, it wont make a difference DOF-wise. You'll get some nicer looking bokeh highlights wide open, but on the flipside you'll get some extra sharpness at 2.8 since you're getting closer to the lens's sweetspot.
    Im sure she wont mind doing the same pose again. You're lucky it's a girl - they usually love posing. Who knows, maybe next time you'll get an even better pose out of her!
    Good luck!
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