Where can I buy skin?

pyrtek

Don't freak out. I mean the book by Lee Varis. This one:

http://tinyurl.com/2ozwn3

I wanted to get it through Amazon, but the shipping charges to Poland are
ridiculous. I'd end up paying 30% more for the already expensive book.
Anybody based in Europe know of a place I can get it for a more reasonable
price? Thanks in advance.

GJMPhoto

Overstock

pyrtek wrote:

Don't freak out. I mean the book by Lee Varis. This one:

http://tinyurl.com/2ozwn3

I wanted to get it through Amazon, but the shipping charges to Poland are
ridiculous. I'd end up paying 30% more for the already expensive book.
Anybody based in Europe know of a place I can get it for a more reasonable
price? Thanks in advance.

I got my copy through Overstock.com: http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Skin/2050007/product.html?IID=prod2050007
$22.79. Don't know what the international shipping situation is.

If you want to buy something other than media / books at the same time, you can get another 7% off by going to www.spoofee.com first, then clicking on the coupon code to go to Overstock. The problem is, the coupons for Overstock only work if you get something other than books or music / video. If you add anything else (I've often bought a pair of small gardening gloves for $2.00), the whole order gets the discount (including the books).

I haven't purchased from Amazon in a LONG time (since they refused to honor a price posted by one of their 'retailers')...Overstock has been a major reason why I've been able to get away with that.

- Gary.

pyrtek

Thanks. I ended up getting it through Amazon's UK branch. Still not the
cheapest, but a bit better than getting it from the States. I just hope it
lives up to the hype and that it's worth it.

GJMPhoto

Skin

pyrtek wrote:

Thanks. I ended up getting it through Amazon's UK branch. Still not the
cheapest, but a bit better than getting it from the States. I just hope it
lives up to the hype and that it's worth it.

I won't give you my opinion yet...I don't want to sway you one way or the other...after you read it, let's discuss.

What other books have you read?

- Gary.

pyrtek

GJMPhoto wrote:

What other books have you read?

Katrin Eismann's masking and retouching books. Dan Margulis's Lab book.
All three absolutely great.

I've tried a couple of Kelby's books, but I just can't get past the "humor".
I don't care how great a Photoshopper he might be, his "jokes" are atrocious.

GJMPhoto

How much to gain from Skin

pyrtek wrote:

Katrin Eismann's masking and retouching books. Dan Margulis's Lab book.
All three absolutely great.

I've tried a couple of Kelby's books, but I just can't get past the "humor".
I don't care how great a Photoshopper he might be, his "jokes" are atrocious.

I've read those as well and agree with you. I read Kelby's Channels book...his "humor" wasn't so bad in there. Margulis' Professional Color book was a good read as well (although just as academic and hard to read as his LAB book).

Eismann is still, to date, my favorite author...I'd be interested to read what you think about Skin.

- Gary.

pyrtek

GJMPhoto wrote:

I read Kelby's Channels book...his "humor" wasn't so bad in there.

Well, my friend has this book, so I borrowed it from him. Here's a quote from
the intro to Chapter 1:

That's why we're starting right here at square one, in this chapter on
the basic fundamentals of channels. And when I say "we're" I mean you, and
by "you" I mean "not me."

I would quit any book by any author at this point. But I kept going. This is
still the intro. One relatively sane sentence ensued after the above, and then
this monstrosity:

There are actually some very important things in the first few pages
of this chapter, and if you skip them it will not only impact your
understanding of channels and of how to use this book now (and later when
you refer to it), but you'll have a level of guilt that will linger on long after the
momentary rush you received from spending your money in an irresponsible
and reckless manner. If it's any consolation, that's what I've always admired
about you.

*groan* Please, make it stop! All of this in the intro to the first chapter! I
can't imagine the horrors that lurk in the later pages, but, luckily, I don't have
to find out.

pyrtek

GJMPhoto wrote:

I'd be interested to read what you think about Skin.

I nearly forgot about this thread. I've had "Skin" for a couple of weeks now.
I think it's really good. The section on lighting is especially interesting
and useful to me. The only slightly disappointing thing about the book (apart
from what I paid for it) is the relatively meagre amount of retouching
techniques Varis discusses. They are quite few and quite basic. That is a minor
gripe, though, since the rest of the book more than makes up for it. To sum up,
I highly recommend it.