O.m.g.

Nikolai

"Information overload" just took a whole new level for yours truly.
We drove to Big Bear Renaissance Fair to have a good time and get a few shots of the ol' gud 1575 crowd. One thing that was new for me was those 8Gb cards in each of of my 30Ds - the fact I conveniently forgot about before shooting.
The reality check came later, when I inserted those cards in my reader...
almost 1,600 shots! :huh And that was only 4 hours .... :dunno
Man, I need to rethink my shooting strategy! :rolleyes :deal

schmoo

I can guess what you'll be doing for the rest of the weekend...

Until the workshop last spring I have never really been around other serious photographers. I thought that I shot a lot, using two 2-gig cards with my 30D (one was a backup that I rarely ever needed). I was greatly surprised at how... prolific... other shooters can be. And I find that their approach doesn't really work well for me because the resulting time at the computer becomes too daunting of a task.

To each their own, I suppose. Do you chimp?

Nikolai

schmooo wrote:

To each their own, I suppose. Do you chimp?

If time permits. Checking the exposure/histogram when the light changes.

wmstumme

What is your keeper percentage with that kind of volume?

-- Even though I shoot mostly sports with my 30D, I tend to set the shutter release to the "low-speed continuous shooting rate." (3 fps) and still tend to shoot just one frame at a time. I'm probably missing some good stuff by doing this--but I just don't like having to deal with the volume...

ian408

Occasionally, I'll see a machine gun shooter when I'm out shooting surf. One day I asked why. His response was simply to get the peak moment. By machine gun, I mean "hold the button down". He was shooting with a 1d and that's a lot of frames a second. I've heard this referred to as "spray and pray". I'm certain there is no way I could sit through and review even 5 images in sequence of a normal wave.

4 hours is 240 minutes. That's 6 or so shots per minute for the whole time you were at the event. Or one every 10 seconds.

That's a lot of shots.

Nikolai

Will, Ian,
Yeah, I know...

Vast majority of them was from the Imperial Knights full-contact jousting show, which was the whole reason why I decided to drive 2.5 hours one way in the first place. Me and Helen took cross-fire positions, she was shooting 70-200 along he court, I was shooting 17-55 across it. This whole ordear alone is responsible for 1,000-odd frames. And yes, the reason was to make sure we get the right frame, since the action is very fast.
A girl was standing next to me with a P&S. When the first two knights sprung off to their collision course I laid down on the shutter (H mode:-). Three seconds later, when it was all over, I heard her saying "that was sooooo fast" - she was still framing...:-(

As I mentioned, I never had this kind of volume of pictures over such short time to deal with, so, as I said, I probably need to rethink my shooting approach...

Nikolai

Update
OK, here's rundown:

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Total shots: ~1,600
Culled (for OOF, etc.): ~1,500 (not bad, huh:-)
Target Folders: ~30
Selected Overall: ~100
Selected Jousting: ~10
Time spent: ~6 hours

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Now, PS is merrily churning RAWs into JPEGs, and soon that it will be S*E turn for upload all this treasure (thank *me* for Auto Album Creation feature - it will only cost me one drop!:-).

colourbox

If you push "spray and pray" past a certain point, it becomes more practical to just go get a really good HD video camera, which is happening to some photojournalists already. Instead of you having to hold down the shutter, you just let the camera roll at 30 frames per second and frame-grab your HD-resolution frames later. It's not 10 megapixels (more like 2), but it's bigger than Smugmug "Large"...

(and no, I'm not suggesting that's what we actually do)

ian408

colourbox wrote:

(and no, I'm not suggesting that's what we actually do)

For PJ work, that's a great solution. Especially with the need to provide for multiple media outlets.

claudermilk

Nikolai wrote:

"Information overload" just took a whole new level for yours truly.
We drove to Big Bear Renaissance Fair to have a good time and get a few shots of the ol' gud 1575 crowd. One thing that was new for me was those 8Gb cards in each of of my 30Ds - the fact I conveniently forgot about before shooting.
The reality check came later, when I inserted those cards in my reader...
almost 1,600 shots! And that was only 4 hours ....
Man, I need to rethink my shooting strategy!

:wow Small world! What day, Saturday or Sunday? I was there on Saturday with a small part of the performance troupe I'm in--at the Mystic Glade stage by the drum booth. I noticed a few photogs heavily loaded with gear out & about. I have to say IMHO the new Fawnskin site is way better than the older site. I also want to go back by there with no fair to get shots of that old sawmill ruin--spent way too much time just hanging by it between shows thinking up shots (this one time decided to leave the darn camera back at the cabin--photography was slated to Sunday).

Back to photo talk. When I was shooting the shows rathe rthan drumming in them, I'd run through that kind of volume. I still do when my troupe is not performing. I run a slideshow in BreezeBrowser Pro and rate or flag-for-deletion fairly quickly. I then take the 3+ rated images and convert them. I usually end up spending time on about 10-20% of the shots and round-filing about 15%. After a while you get quite efficient at it & can chew through images rapidly.

Edit: wait, I see from the OP you had to be there Saturday. Too bad I didn't know you were coming.

Nikolai

claudermilk wrote:

:wow Small world! What day, Saturday or Sunday? I was there on Saturday with a small part of the performance troupe I'm in--at the Mystic Glade stage by the drum booth. I noticed a few photogs heavily loaded with gear out & about. I have to say IMHO the new Fawnskin site is way better than the older site. I also want to go back by there with no fair to get shots of that old sawmill ruin--spent way too much time just hanging by it between shows thinking up shots (this one time decided to leave the darn camera back at the cabin--photography was slated to Sunday).

Back to photo talk. When I was shooting the shows rathe rthan drumming in them, I'd run through that kind of volume. I still do when my troupe is not performing. I run a slideshow in BreezeBrowser Pro and rate or flag-for-deletion fairly quickly. I then take the 3+ rated images and convert them. I usually end up spending time on about 10-20% of the shots and round-filing about 15%. After a while you get quite efficient at it & can chew through images rapidly.

Edit: wait, I see from the OP you had to be there Saturday. Too bad I didn't know you were coming.

Yeah, I was there Saturday... Most likely one of this photogs was me :-) I was planning to stay until at least the second Knights fight (4 pm), but Helen got overheated in her tight corset, so we had to bail out early.
Which outfit were you with? ANd where that booth was located? I still have Fair official schedule, I may nail down the time/location, heck, I may even have caught you on camera..:-)

Back to DAM... My biggest issue (fixed now, afterwards) was that my cameras got desycnhronized time-wise and they were 1min 20 sec apart. So I basically had to go through each topic twice to sort them out, and I ended up with 30 albums, thus making 60 sorting runs:-).
Culling wise, I ran through the entire batch picking up 1+ stars, then ran those for 2+ stars. I used Bridge. I have LR too, and it prolly would be easier, but I hate the import process so much I can't force myself to use it for real..

I guess next time I need to be more vocal about my shooting intentions :-)

claudermilk

I was back in the Mystic Glade by the drum booth up on the end of the path. Tribe Roman Morga, shows were 11:30 (IIRC), 2:00 and 5:00. We were the loud drummers with the belly dancers.

As for the DAM thing, Exiftool is invaluable for that kind of issue. You can take one camera's output and adjust all the EXIF timestamps by the 1min 20sec.

Nikolai

claudermilk wrote:

As for the DAM thing, Exiftool is invaluable for that kind of issue. You can take one camera's output and adjust all the EXIF timestamps by the 1min 20sec.

Thanks, I'll check it out!

ChrisJ

Nikolai wrote:

Thanks, I'll check it out!

I'll second the recommendation... I use EXIFtool to allow my PS'ed images to be shown on my TiVo. The latest RAW converter for CS2 adds some metadata that TiVo just does not like, so I have to strip it out.

sirsloop

Lol... spray and pray... thats what I see a lot of rich fathers doing with their 1D that they have no idea how to use. That and their 70-200/2.8L IS adds like three inches to *ahem*.. so you know. Whats better than 3fps? 5fps... 8fps... 10fps!!!!! Pretty soon they will have 24fps digital cameras out there and it'll make 24p movie cameras obsolete! HA! THe first guy to get that is going to need a larger pair of boxers I think. rofl Reminds me of that 19 lens multi focus piece... apparently takes 19 images at the same time all with different focus.

As far as taking tons and tons of photos... yeah been there done that but I try to take one at time

Nikolai wrote:

Back to DAM... My biggest issue (fixed now, afterwards) was that my cameras got desycnhronized time-wise and they were 1min 20 sec apart.

AACK... I hate when that happens. I make it a point to check all settings on both bodies before shooting now! Trying to figure out when one class ends and another one starts when one camera is set GMT-4 and another was changed to GMT-5 +1.3minutes ... ieeee!