categories tutorial?
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Is there a good place I can start to learn about Categories? I checked FAQ but didn't see anything. Thanks.
lucy
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Did you have a specific question?
I found this page, which might help - http://www.smugmug.com/help/upload-photo. It talks about the basics of categories and subcategories. It's really just a way to group galleries together, an organizational technique.
I just looked at your site, and it looks like your galleries page shows galleries, as opposed to groupings of galleries (categories). If you jump over to my site and look at my gallery page (http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019), you'll see that I have my site organized by categories. Then within each category you'll see the galleries. Except for my travel category, where I also use sub-categories.
If that doesn't make sense, ask away!
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Thanks Andy.
lucy
Hi Denise,
Thanks a lot. I checked out your site and the links. Specifically, what I want to do is dive into html (yikes!) for my text pages that will go under the "More" gallery. I 'll use the link on FAQ and Forum and hopefully won't get too lost.
I'd like to link, as simply as possible, from "More" to either "Poetry" or "Prose" title page with photos (as on my site). Then I'd like to link to a "Contents" page—one for Poetry and one for Prose—from which you could link to the pages for each prose piece or poem. And then get back easily to Home or Galleries page or whatever. I'm a little confused since it says on your link that Gallery pages are only for photos.
What would be the best way to approach this?
Then, later down the line, I want to go back to my photo galleries and categorize just like you've done on your site. That seems a little more straightforward than the html stuff so I'll leave it to after.
Very much appreciate any guidance. Many thanks.
lucy
I just looked at your More page. You could use an HTML-only page to link to the other pages that you are talking about, using a combination of <a href= and <img src so that when someone clicks on the photo they go to the other page. I did that on both of the pages I mentioned in my first post. I don't know if you need a sample of the html I used, so I'll include it here just in case.
In this case I used a random photo from a specified gallery, but you can certainly use a specific photo instead in the <img src statement. Also, I wanted to take the user to the category as opposed to a gallery. You would put the location of your prose (or poetry or...) page in the <a href= statement.
Here's a simpler example from my blog where the link takes the viewer directly to the photo shown:
Another option would be to use a journal style gallery and put the links in the descriptions of the photos. You can see an example of this on the page I used to link my bicycling touring journals and photo galleries: http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657.
If you need help constructing the html for the links, if you can supply the locations (the URLs) of what you want to link to, I'd be happy to give you a simple link example that hopefully you could use as a starting point for the other links.
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
Hi Denise,
Thanks for the terrific suggestions. I'm going to give them all a whirl—though I have a feeling you may be hearing back from me if I get into the proverbial "spot."
lucy
ETA:
Oh - I am sorry - HI I am new here - can ya tell?
A better place to start than this post is probably the Customization: start here post at http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=52812. There are links on that page that will lead you to documentation on how to set up a banner and a navbar and a slideshow on your home page. Then once you get started with that you can post specific questions / problems, and someone will be able to help with the answers.
Also - if you edit your signature (click You! above, then edit signature), you can put the name of your site there, which will let helpers find you more easily.
Have fun!
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
You may be better off starting another thread with your specific questions. I think the only reason I saw your post is because I was already watching this thread for Lucy's questions about categories and html-only galleries. Sometimes a clean thread that you can use to follow through with all of your customization really works better at getting the right attention for your problems.
I wish I could help, but I haven't played at all with the borders you are trying to implement. I'm sure you'll get the help you need though.
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
I was just wondering how you go back and edit the categories. I don't have many that I created but I wanted to go back and allow the information to show on all categories how many photos are in it and when it was updated...did that make sense?
I'm at http://www.artsbyjphotography.com
I believe that the updated date can be removed with this CSS:
.updated { display: block; }--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
But for some reason I can't go back and get them there. I will go to the link you provided and see. Thanks!
Hi Denise,
I was checking out your journal links because I was most attracted by your word "simpler example." But when I clicked on the links from the photos to the journal I kept getting dead ends ("unable to connect try again"). This looks like it might be the best way for me to start but I need to make sure the links will connect. Suggestions?
Thanks.
lucy
The reason you are getting dead ends on those links is that the web site I am linking to is down for a few days. It's a "free" site run by an individual, and he doesn't have the resources to have a backup computer. He is in the process of rebuilding the server. His estimate of completion is tomorrow, so I would expect the links to be working again by sometime on Saturday (August 18th). Maybe tomorrow, but I don't know his actual timeframe...
Why don't you create a test gallery, mark it as private so no one can stumble onto it, and try adding the links that you need to your own content. If you have a problem with the links, include a link to the gallery here (private just means it's not visible on your site, but that direct links to the gallery will work) so we can help.
Or of course you can wait until crazyguyonabike is back up to see my examples... sorry about that, it's something that isn't within my control.
Oh, I just remembered, I do have another example where I link to a blog too. Look at the description for this gallery (also the others within the same sub-category) - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/272237 and follow the link the the blog (not the topicwise link, that's down too along with crazyguyonabike). You'll probably want your link in the description of your photos, but it's the same code that's used in the description for the gallery. At least you'll be able to see this working today...
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
The crazyguyonabike web site is back up if you want to play with (see) the example from my earlier post, linking from the photo caption to another site.
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
I think this may be a bit of a slog but here goes. I created a private test gallery as you suggested (called "more-html test"). Then I tried to create an html page as my first link as suggested by an earlier d-grinner. I copied and pasted the page from word, then saved as html, then pasted to notepad. But when it got to notepad it had unwanted spaces between paragraphs, and the copyright symbol was changed to something else.
How and where do I fix the formatting? I want to be able to click on the Prose photo then link to this (and hopefully many others to come). Can't tell yet which of your examples would be the best method, but always looking for the simpler one. My test gallery is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. Also, how do I dump the slide show it automatically went into?
Thanks a ton.
lucy
If I understand you, you want to link from your more gallery to this new test gallery. First, do not use Word or any other word processing tool. It's OK to use Notepad because it doesn't add any formatting characters. Or you can type directly into the gallery description or into the photo caption.
Here's an example, assuming that you want to link from the Prose photo in your More gallery to the test gallery that you linked above.
In the caption for the prose photo, enter your heml. Here's a sample:
The difference between this code and the examples I gave you in this post - http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=615821&postcount=6 is that the example in this post provides a word that the user can click (the word here in my example). My previous examples used the <img src= statement to show a picture that you can click on.
I don't see a slide show when I go to the gallery in your post.
Maybe an example of how I entered captions with links would help. I've included the caption for the first photo in this gallery - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657 - below. This example is a little more complex than you need because I used a table to align the description (journal vs. Photo gallery) and the link. You don't need the table. You only need the <a href= html. (In other words, you don't need the tags <table>, <tr>, <td>, </td>, </tr>, or </table>.
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
Hi Denise,
I seem to be having trouble just creating an html page. As suggested, I saved a Word document as html, then copied & pasted to Notepad. When my test document got saved as html, the copyright symbol changed to some other weird symbol. And when I copied & pasted to Notepad, I also got unwanted spaces between every paragraph.
How/where do I: 1) rectify the copyright symbol?
2) prevent unwanted wrong formatting that would be incredibly time-consuming to fix?
Thanks again.
lucy
As I said in my previous post, don't use a word document at all. Also, don't save your file as html outside of smugmug. Formatting that you add in a tool like Word cannot be used within HTML. It's ok to use Notepad, which doesn't add anything other than what you are typing. It's not ok to use Word or any other word processing tool. That's probably where the spaces came from.
Start in notepad, and type what you want there. You can use html to do formatting if you'd like. If you'd tell us what kind of formatting you want to do, we will be able to help with the html. Here's an example:
And here's a copyright symbol that you should be able to copy from here and paste into your html: ©
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
Denise,
Just want to get it absolutely clear—there's no way to cut & paste my Word documents to convert them to compatible Smugmug html text?? I have literally thousands of words of text and the idea of typing all of that out from scratch in Notepad sounds too incredibly time-consuming to be worth it.
Thanks.
lucy
generated html files into notepad, then copy from there and paste in here
between code tags.
[code]
paste here
[/code]
and we'll look to see how much clean up it needs. Be a fun experiment.:D
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Here's a small file example. I copied & pasted directly from Word to Notepad without first saving as html (which caused lots of formating problems before). This looks okay except the title should be centered and I lost the copyright symbol but pasted in the one Denise sent me in a previous post. What next and thanks.
lucy
Maybe Allen knows some shortcuts that I don't know... As he said in his earlier post, and as I think you understood from my earlier posts, taking your text and making it look "nice" in a gallery will take some work.
Anyway, here's an example. I took the text you entered, removed line breaks (because there were paragraphs that looked like they should flow but they jumped mid-stream to new lines), added line breaks and some indentation to separate the conversation with the thoughts. I did not do anything fancy with formatting.
The code is below, and for now you can look at the result in my Experiment gallery at http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3137264. It won't be there forever - this is a gallery I use for playing, so when I feel the need to try something new the code that I pasted in there today will be gone.
I'd also recommend that you look at this page for instructions on creating a text-only gallery: http://allen-steve.smugmug.com/gallery/3235336.
I hope this helps.
Of course you could just paste the text that you have into your description without making any changes, but it will look exactly like the source looked.
You said you have a lot of documents. What is it that you are really trying to accomplish here? Have you thought about using something like a blog for your text entries and linking from the blog entries to the photos in your gallery and then from your photos to the blog entry? I did include info above on how to do that, and you can see examples if you go to my blog (linked in my signature). The photos in my blog link to the same photo in my gallery. And the blog is designed for text entry with simple formatting (bold, italics, etc.). My blog is hosted at http://www.blogger.com, and there are other hosting sites out there too if you don't like that one.
--- Denise
Musings & ramblings at https://denisegoldberg.blogspot.com
Hi Denise,
Forgive me for not responding sooner but for some reason I didn't receive your e-mail automatically and didn't stumble on it till today. I'll check out the blog host since that seems to be more format friendly than smugmug (esp important for poetry), but first would like to try some of your earlier ideas.
Your link to Lilah didn't quite get the formatting. I don't want any spaces at all between paragraphs. Here's what I'd like to try. I want to link from my ""More" gallery to the photographs of "Prose" and "Poetry." Then I want to link from the "Prose" photo to a prose "Contents" page, then link from the prose "Contents" page to each item on it. And same scenario for the poetry.
Using Notepad, I copied & pasted a prose "Contents" page into the gallery description. The link is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. It looks okay except the text is white and I want it to be black. Can you tell me how to link the Prose" photo (http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855/1/191102875/Large) to the "Contents" page and how to make the text black? Also, do I need to change the gallery style or any other changes.
And hopefully we can take the next step. I prepared all the items on the Prose "Contents" page and need to know where/how I upload them?
Thanks so much again.
lucy
Hi Denise,
I finally set up a blog for my text as you suggested—www.shilohbear.blogspot.com. However I couldn't figure out: 1) how to indent for paragraphs 2) how to nest pieces inthe sidebar on home page, i.e. place individual poems under Poetry Contents and prose under Prose Contents. Any suggestions?
Also, I'd like to link to them as follows if possible: from shilohbear.smugmug.com to "More" gallery to either Prose or Poetry pix (within "More") and then click to either Poetry or Prose Contents in blog, and then to hopefully nestedindividual pieces.
Whew! Any help much appreciated. Hope you have and joyful and healthy new year.
lucy
Unfortunately, all of the blogs I know - including blogger - are set up in a latest entry first manner. So each blog entry is shown latest first. I'm not aware of any way to set up a blog so that it has nested entries. If you really want nested entries you will probably need to roll your own in smugmug using html-only galleries for your text (possibly picking up photos from other galleries) - and those galleries can contain links to other galleries. Well actually, you could sort of do that with blogger too, linking directly from one blogger entry to another.
You can link from blog entry to blog entry if you'd like. And you can link from your smugmug gallery either to the blog as a whole (http://shilohbear.blogspot.com/) or to a specific blog entry, for example, http://shilohbear.blogspot.com/2007/11/north-of-oz.html.
You can embed photos in your blog from your smugmug site by using a combination of 2 html statements.
Here's an example of those statements using my own galleries (remove the *s, included to keep the forum software from swallowing the html):
Just show a photo:
<*img src="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/photos/234867708-S.jpg">
Show a photo plus link to it in the gallery:
<*a href="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/gallery/4034380/2/234867708">
<*img src="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/photos/234867708-S.jpg"><*/a>
As far as adding additional sections to your blog, log in to blogger.com, then click Layout for your blog. You'll see a tab called Template. Within that tab you can add additional sections - what blogger calls page elements. And you can position those page elements. You can see examples if you look at my blog - which links to my photos and my journals.
You should be able to use this to create two sections, one titled Prose contents, and the other Poetry contents. Creating a Link List page element should give you your two sections. I'd highly recommend that you link back to your smugmug galleries too - maybe from a general link section.
You currently have a blog entry called contents that lists all of your blog entries. That page would be more effective if you changed the simple list to be a list of links (although you probably don't need the page at all once you create Link List elements for your poetry and prose). For example, instead of entering
--- Denise
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