categories tutorial?

mogue · August 13, 2007

Is there a good place I can start to learn about Categories? I checked FAQ but didn't see anything. Thanks.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 13, 2007

mogue wrote:

Is there a good place I can start to learn about Categories? I checked FAQ but didn't see anything. Thanks.
lucy

Lucy -
Did you have a specific question?

I found this page, which might help - http://www.smugmug.com/help/upload-photo. It talks about the basics of categories and subcategories. It's really just a way to group galleries together, an organizational technique.

I just looked at your site, and it looks like your galleries page shows galleries, as opposed to groupings of galleries (categories). If you jump over to my site and look at my gallery page (http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019), you'll see that I have my site organized by categories. Then within each category you'll see the galleries. Except for my travel category, where I also use sub-categories.

If that doesn't make sense, ask away!

--- Denise

Andy · August 14, 2007

And this might help, too

http://smugmug.jot.com/WikiHome/Pros/SiteOrganization

mogue · August 14, 2007

Andy wrote:

And this might help, too

http://smugmug.jot.com/WikiHome/Pros/SiteOrganization

Thanks Andy.

lucy

mogue · August 14, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:

Lucy -
Did you have a specific question?

I found this page, which might help - http://www.smugmug.com/help/upload-photo. It talks about the basics of categories and subcategories. It's really just a way to group galleries together, an organizational technique.

I just looked at your site, and it looks like your galleries page shows galleries, as opposed to groupings of galleries (categories). If you jump over to my site and look at my gallery page (http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019), you'll see that I have my site organized by categories. Then within each category you'll see the galleries. Except for my travel category, where I also use sub-categories.

If that doesn't make sense, ask away!

--- Denise

Hi Denise,
Thanks a lot. I checked out your site and the links. Specifically, what I want to do is dive into html (yikes!) for my text pages that will go under the "More" gallery. I 'll use the link on FAQ and Forum and hopefully won't get too lost.
I'd like to link, as simply as possible, from "More" to either "Poetry" or "Prose" title page with photos (as on my site). Then I'd like to link to a "Contents" page—one for Poetry and one for Prose—from which you could link to the pages for each prose piece or poem. And then get back easily to Home or Galleries page or whatever. I'm a little confused since it says on your link that Gallery pages are only for photos.
What would be the best way to approach this?
Then, later down the line, I want to go back to my photo galleries and categorize just like you've done on your site. That seems a little more straightforward than the html stuff so I'll leave it to after.
Very much appreciate any guidance. Many thanks.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 14, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
Thanks a lot. I checked out your site and the links. Specifically, what I want to do is dive into html (yikes!) for my text pages that will go under the "More" gallery. I 'll use the link on FAQ and Forum and hopefully won't get too lost.
I'd like to link, as simply as possible, from "More" to either "Poetry" or "Prose" title page with photos (as on my site). Then I'd like to link to a "Contents" page—one for Poetry and one for Prose—from which you could link to the pages for each prose piece or poem. And then get back easily to Home or Galleries page or whatever. I'm a little confused since it says on your link that Gallery pages are only for photos.
What would be the best way to approach this?
Then, later down the line, I want to go back to my photo galleries and categorize just like you've done on your site. That seems a little more straightforward than the html stuff so I'll leave it to after.
Very much appreciate any guidance. Many thanks.

lucy

What I meant when I said that my Gallery page was only photos & captions was that I didn't have text (other than the captions) woven in with the photos. That page was built using a table in HTML. I created it to replace the standard galleries page because I wanted bigger thumbs on that page. Just for comparison purposes, here's the smugmug default galleries page (in my case showing categories) - http://denise.smugmug.com/galleries - and here's my replacement "Gallery" page showing bigger thumbs - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019.

A little bit of an update (but I'll leave the paragraph above in too, just in case it's of interest). Oops, I just re-read your question. The link I gave you earlier was a smugmug help page, and while it may have said that galleries pages are for photos - it was talking about the "usual" use of gallery pages. An HTML-only page could still have (linked) photos on it, or it could be text-only.

I just looked at your More page. You could use an HTML-only page to link to the other pages that you are talking about, using a combination of <a href= and <img src so that when someone clicks on the photo they go to the other page. I did that on both of the pages I mentioned in my first post. I don't know if you need a sample of the html I used, so I'll include it here just in case.

<[B]a[/B] href="/Wandering%20near%20home" title="Wandering near home">
<[B]img[/B] src="/photos/random.mg?AlbumID=3024411&Size=175x175"></[B]a[/B]>

In this case I used a random photo from a specified gallery, but you can certainly use a specific photo instead in the <img src statement. Also, I wanted to take the user to the category as opposed to a gallery. You would put the location of your prose (or poetry or...) page in the <a href= statement.

Here's a simpler example from my blog where the link takes the viewer directly to the photo shown:

<[B]a[/B] href="http://Denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3269485/4/181217120">
<[B]img[/B] src="http://Denise.smugmug.com/photos/181217120-S.jpg"></[B]a[/B]>

Another option would be to use a journal style gallery and put the links in the descriptions of the photos. You can see an example of this on the page I used to link my bicycling touring journals and photo galleries: http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657.

If you need help constructing the html for the links, if you can supply the locations (the URLs) of what you want to link to, I'd be happy to give you a simple link example that hopefully you could use as a starting point for the other links.

--- Denise

mogue · August 14, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:
What I meant when I said that my Gallery page was only photos & captions was that I didn't have text (other than the captions) woven in with the photos. That page was built using a table in HTML. I created it to replace the standard galleries page because I wanted bigger thumbs on that page. Just for comparison purposes, here's the smugmug default galleries page (in my case showing categories) - http://denise.smugmug.com/galleries - and here's my replacement "Gallery" page showing bigger thumbs - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019.
A little bit of an update (but I'll leave the paragraph above in too, just in case it's of interest). Oops, I just re-read your question. The link I gave you earlier was a smugmug help page, and while it may have said that galleries pages are for photos - it was talking about the "usual" use of gallery pages. An HTML-only page could still have (linked) photos on it, or it could be text-only.
I just looked at your More page. You could use an HTML-only page to link to the other pages that you are talking about, using a combination of <a href= and <img src so that when someone clicks on the photo they go to the other page. I did that on both of the pages I mentioned in my first post. I don't know if you need a sample of the html I used, so I'll include it here just in case.
<[B]a[/B] href="/Wandering%20near%20home" title="Wandering near home">
<[B]img[/B] src="/photos/random.mg?AlbumID=3024411&Size=175x175"></[B]a[/B]>
In this case I used a random photo from a specified gallery, but you can certainly use a specific photo instead in the <img src statement. Also, I wanted to take the user to the category as opposed to a gallery. You would put the location of your prose (or poetry or...) page in the <a href= statement.

Here's a simpler example from my blog where the link takes the viewer directly to the photo shown:
<[B]a[/B] href="http://Denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3269485/4/181217120">
<[B]img[/B] src="http://Denise.smugmug.com/photos/181217120-S.jpg"></[B]a[/B]>
Another option would be to use a journal style gallery and put the links in the descriptions of the photos. You can see an example of this on the page I used to link my bicycling touring journals and photo galleries: http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657.

If you need help constructing the html for the links, if you can supply the locations (the URLs) of what you want to link to, I'd be happy to give you a simple link example that hopefully you could use as a starting point for the other links.

--- Denise

Hi Denise,
Thanks for the terrific suggestions. I'm going to give them all a whirl—though I have a feeling you may be hearing back from me if I get into the proverbial "spot."

lucy

NaturalShots · August 14, 2007

I have absolutely no clue as to what I am doing! Please help. I have tried everything in this post and also on Andy's page and I just don't get it. I want a nice simply Portfolio set up where people can click on "Children" "Pets" "Reunions" "Families" etc.... then have one for Clients with password protected SubCategories. I have been trying to set this up for a good 3 hours now and I just can't get it. It is driving me INSANE. Like this one: http://awmphoto.smugmug.com/galleries

ETA:
Oh - I am sorry - HI I am new here - can ya tell?

denisegoldberg · August 14, 2007

NaturalShots wrote:

I have absolutely no clue as to what I am doing! Please help. I have tried everything in this post and also on Andy's page and I just don't get it. I want a nice simply Portfolio set up where people can click on "Children" "Pets" "Reunions" "Families" etc.... then have one for Clients with password protected SubCategories. I have been trying to set this up for a good 3 hours now and I just can't get it. It is driving me INSANE. Like this one: http://awmphoto.smugmug.com/galleries

ETA:
Oh - I am sorry - HI I am new here - can ya tell?

Welcome!

A better place to start than this post is probably the Customization: start here post at http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=52812. There are links on that page that will lead you to documentation on how to set up a banner and a navbar and a slideshow on your home page. Then once you get started with that you can post specific questions / problems, and someone will be able to help with the answers.

Also - if you edit your signature (click You! above, then edit signature), you can put the name of your site there, which will let helpers find you more easily.

Have fun!

--- Denise

NaturalShots · August 14, 2007

Thanx Denise - I was really vague up there - sorry about that. Just frustrated and needed to vent (I am not good about asking for help). I am absolutely horrible with tutorials..... seriously it's a learning disability thing I have had all my life - just gotta play around with it as I go. I do have a portfolio started but it isn't like the one I mentioned in my previous post.... close but not like it. Might take me forever but I'll get it eventually. I like the layout of the one I mentioned up above and his gray table is inside the main table (the grey border). Mine isn't. :cry ( http://naturalshotsphoto.smugmug.com/Portfolio )

denisegoldberg wrote:

Welcome!

A better place to start than this post is probably the Customization: start here post at http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=52812. There are links on that page that will lead you to documentation on how to set up a banner and a navbar and a slideshow on your home page. Then once you get started with that you can post specific questions / problems, and someone will be able to help with the answers.

Also - if you edit your signature (click You! above, then edit signature), you can put the name of your site there, which will let helpers find you more easily.

Have fun!

--- Denise

denisegoldberg · August 14, 2007

NaturalShots wrote:

Thanx Denise - I was really vague up there - sorry about that. Just frustrated and needed to vent (I am not good about asking for help). I am absolutely horrible with tutorials..... seriously it's a learning disability thing I have had all my life - just gotta play around with it as I go. I do have a portfolio started but it isn't like the one I mentioned in my previous post.... close but not like it. Might take me forever but I'll get it eventually. I like the layout of the one I mentioned up above and his gray table is inside the main table (the grey border). Mine isn't. :cry ( http://naturalshotsphoto.smugmug.com/Portfolio )

It looks like you've got your banner handled but that you still need to implement a navbar and your slideshow.

You may be better off starting another thread with your specific questions. I think the only reason I saw your post is because I was already watching this thread for Lucy's questions about categories and html-only galleries. Sometimes a clean thread that you can use to follow through with all of your customization really works better at getting the right attention for your problems.

I wish I could help, but I haven't played at all with the borders you are trying to implement. I'm sure you'll get the help you need though.

--- Denise

NaturalShots · August 14, 2007

Thanx Denise - I gave up - I started a new post - want to hire someone to do it for me.....just too dang frustrating for me.

denisegoldberg wrote:

It looks like you've got your banner handled but that you still need to implement a navbar and your slideshow.

You may be better off starting another thread with your specific questions. I think the only reason I saw your post is because I was already watching this thread for Lucy's questions about categories and html-only galleries. Sometimes a clean thread that you can use to follow through with all of your customization really works better at getting the right attention for your problems.

I wish I could help, but I haven't played at all with the borders you are trying to implement. I'm sure you'll get the help you need though.

--- Denise

j photog · August 14, 2007

Editing pre-made categories after the fact...
I was just wondering how you go back and edit the categories. I don't have many that I created but I wanted to go back and allow the information to show on all categories how many photos are in it and when it was updated...did that make sense?
I'm at http://www.artsbyjphotography.com

denisegoldberg · August 15, 2007

j photog wrote:

I was just wondering how you go back and edit the categories. I don't have many that I created but I wanted to go back and allow the information to show on all categories how many photos are in it and when it was updated...did that make sense?
I'm at http://www.artsbyjphotography.com

See # 25 in the Advanced Customization FAQ - http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=52811. That tells how to change the x galleries xxx photos - you may have that installed in your page and you would just have to remove it. The odd thing is that some of your categories show this info and some don't. I have no idea why the mixture, maybe one of the smugWizards can answer that.

I believe that the updated date can be removed with this CSS:

.updated
{ display: block; }

--- Denise

j photog · August 16, 2007

I want the dates on all of them...

denisegoldberg wrote:
See # 25 in the Advanced Customization FAQ - http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=52811. That tells how to change the x galleries xxx photos - you may have that installed in your page and you would just have to remove it. The odd thing is that some of your categories show this info and some don't. I have no idea why the mixture, maybe one of the smugWizards can answer that.

I believe that the updated date can be removed with this CSS:
.updated
{ display: block; }
--- Denise

But for some reason I can't go back and get them there. I will go to the link you provided and see. Thanks!

mogue · August 16, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:
What I meant when I said that my Gallery page was only photos & captions was that I didn't have text (other than the captions) woven in with the photos. That page was built using a table in HTML. I created it to replace the standard galleries page because I wanted bigger thumbs on that page. Just for comparison purposes, here's the smugmug default galleries page (in my case showing categories) - http://denise.smugmug.com/galleries - and here's my replacement "Gallery" page showing bigger thumbs - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3242019.
A little bit of an update (but I'll leave the paragraph above in too, just in case it's of interest). Oops, I just re-read your question. The link I gave you earlier was a smugmug help page, and while it may have said that galleries pages are for photos - it was talking about the "usual" use of gallery pages. An HTML-only page could still have (linked) photos on it, or it could be text-only.
I just looked at your More page. You could use an HTML-only page to link to the other pages that you are talking about, using a combination of <a href= and <img src so that when someone clicks on the photo they go to the other page. I did that on both of the pages I mentioned in my first post. I don't know if you need a sample of the html I used, so I'll include it here just in case.
<[B]a[/B] href="/Wandering%20near%20home" title="Wandering near home">
<[B]img[/B] src="/photos/random.mg?AlbumID=3024411&Size=175x175"></[B]a[/B]>
In this case I used a random photo from a specified gallery, but you can certainly use a specific photo instead in the <img src statement. Also, I wanted to take the user to the category as opposed to a gallery. You would put the location of your prose (or poetry or...) page in the <a href= statement.

Here's a simpler example from my blog where the link takes the viewer directly to the photo shown:
<[B]a[/B] href="http://Denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3269485/4/181217120">
<[B]img[/B] src="http://Denise.smugmug.com/photos/181217120-S.jpg"></[B]a[/B]>
Another option would be to use a journal style gallery and put the links in the descriptions of the photos. You can see an example of this on the page I used to link my bicycling touring journals and photo galleries: http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657.

If you need help constructing the html for the links, if you can supply the locations (the URLs) of what you want to link to, I'd be happy to give you a simple link example that hopefully you could use as a starting point for the other links.

--- Denise

Hi Denise,
I was checking out your journal links because I was most attracted by your word "simpler example." But when I clicked on the links from the photos to the journal I kept getting dead ends ("unable to connect try again"). This looks like it might be the best way for me to start but I need to make sure the links will connect. Suggestions?
Thanks.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 16, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
I was checking out your journal links because I was most attracted by your word "simpler example." But when I clicked on the links from the photos to the journal I kept getting dead ends ("unable to connect try again"). This looks like it might be the best way for me to start but I need to make sure the links will connect. Suggestions?
Thanks.

lucy

Lucy -
The reason you are getting dead ends on those links is that the web site I am linking to is down for a few days. It's a "free" site run by an individual, and he doesn't have the resources to have a backup computer. He is in the process of rebuilding the server. His estimate of completion is tomorrow, so I would expect the links to be working again by sometime on Saturday (August 18th). Maybe tomorrow, but I don't know his actual timeframe...

Why don't you create a test gallery, mark it as private so no one can stumble onto it, and try adding the links that you need to your own content. If you have a problem with the links, include a link to the gallery here (private just means it's not visible on your site, but that direct links to the gallery will work) so we can help.

Or of course you can wait until crazyguyonabike is back up to see my examples... sorry about that, it's something that isn't within my control.

Oh, I just remembered, I do have another example where I link to a blog too. Look at the description for this gallery (also the others within the same sub-category) - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/272237 and follow the link the the blog (not the topicwise link, that's down too along with crazyguyonabike). You'll probably want your link in the description of your photos, but it's the same code that's used in the description for the gallery. At least you'll be able to see this working today...

--- Denise

denisegoldberg · August 17, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
I was checking out your journal links because I was most attracted by your word "simpler example." But when I clicked on the links from the photos to the journal I kept getting dead ends ("unable to connect try again"). This looks like it might be the best way for me to start but I need to make sure the links will connect. Suggestions?
Thanks.

lucy

Lucy -
The crazyguyonabike web site is back up if you want to play with (see) the example from my earlier post, linking from the photo caption to another site.

--- Denise

mogue · August 21, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
Thanks for the terrific suggestions. I'm going to give them all a whirl—though I have a feeling you may be hearing back from me if I get into the proverbial "spot."

lucy

I think this may be a bit of a slog but here goes. I created a private test gallery as you suggested (called "more-html test"). Then I tried to create an html page as my first link as suggested by an earlier d-grinner. I copied and pasted the page from word, then saved as html, then pasted to notepad. But when it got to notepad it had unwanted spaces between paragraphs, and the copyright symbol was changed to something else.
How and where do I fix the formatting? I want to be able to click on the Prose photo then link to this (and hopefully many others to come). Can't tell yet which of your examples would be the best method, but always looking for the simpler one. My test gallery is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. Also, how do I dump the slide show it automatically went into?
Thanks a ton.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 21, 2007

mogue wrote:

I think this may be a bit of a slog but here goes. I created a private test gallery as you suggested (called "more-html test"). Then I tried to create an html page as my first link as suggested by an earlier d-grinner. I copied and pasted the page from word, then saved as html, then pasted to notepad. But when it got to notepad it had unwanted spaces between paragraphs, and the copyright symbol was changed to something else.
How and where do I fix the formatting? I want to be able to click on the Prose photo then link to this (and hopefully many others to come). Can't tell yet which of your examples would be the best method, but always looking for the simpler one. My test gallery is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. Also, how do I dump the slide show it automatically went into?
Thanks a ton.

lucy

Lucy -
If I understand you, you want to link from your more gallery to this new test gallery. First, do not use Word or any other word processing tool. It's OK to use Notepad because it doesn't add any formatting characters. Or you can type directly into the gallery description or into the photo caption.

Here's an example, assuming that you want to link from the Prose photo in your More gallery to the test gallery that you linked above.

In the caption for the prose photo, enter your heml. Here's a sample:

<[B]html[/B]>
Prose<[B]b[/B]r/><[B]br[/B]/>enter the description you want here. Then something like
Click <[B]a[/B] href="http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855/1/186456037">here<[B]/a[/B]> to enter the gallery.
</[B]html[/B]>

The difference between this code and the examples I gave you in this post - http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=615821&postcount=6 is that the example in this post provides a word that the user can click (the word here in my example). My previous examples used the <img src= statement to show a picture that you can click on.

I don't see a slide show when I go to the gallery in your post.

Maybe an example of how I entered captions with links would help. I've included the caption for the first photo in this gallery - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657 - below. This example is a little more complex than you need because I used a table to align the description (journal vs. Photo gallery) and the link. You don't need the table. You only need the <a href= html. (In other words, you don't need the tags <table>, <tr>, <td>, </td>, </tr>, or </table>.

<html><big>2007-05: Feeding an addiction</big>
<br/><br/>
This is the tale of a two-day wander from home to Portsmouth, NH, and back again. I kept hoping for a good weather weekend, hoping, hoping... <br/><br/>My bike was pushing for a quick tour, and that wish was finally satisfied on Memorial Day weekend. It was a hot but beautiful ride. 
<table cellspacing=5>
<tr><td>Journal:</td><td><a href="http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/denise2007portsmouth">Denise2007Portsmouth</a></td></tr>
<tr><td>Photo gallery:</td><td><a href="/gallery/2909414">Feeding an addiction</a></td></tr></table>
</html>

--- Denise

mogue · August 28, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:
Lucy -
If I understand you, you want to link from your more gallery to this new test gallery. First, do not use Word or any other word processing tool. It's OK to use Notepad because it doesn't add any formatting characters. Or you can type directly into the gallery description or into the photo caption.

Here's an example, assuming that you want to link from the Prose photo in your More gallery to the test gallery that you linked above.

In the caption for the prose photo, enter your heml. Here's a sample:
<[B]html[/B]>
Prose<[B]b[/B]r/><[B]br[/B]/>enter the description you want here. Then something like
Click <[B]a[/B] href="http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855/1/186456037">here<[B]/a[/B]> to enter the gallery.
</[B]html[/B]>
The difference between this code and the examples I gave you in this post - http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=615821&postcount=6 is that the example in this post provides a word that the user can click (the word here in my example). My previous examples used the <img src= statement to show a picture that you can click on.

I don't see a slide show when I go to the gallery in your post.

Maybe an example of how I entered captions with links would help. I've included the caption for the first photo in this gallery - http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3175657 - below. This example is a little more complex than you need because I used a table to align the description (journal vs. Photo gallery) and the link. You don't need the table. You only need the <a href= html. (In other words, you don't need the tags <table>, <tr>, <td>, </td>, </tr>, or </table>.
<html><big>2007-05: Feeding an addiction</big>
 
This is the tale of a two-day wander from home to Portsmouth, NH, and back again. I kept hoping for a good weather weekend, hoping, hoping... My bike was pushing for a quick tour, and that wish was finally satisfied on Memorial Day weekend. It was a hot but beautiful ride. 
<table cellspacing=5>
<tr><td>Journal:</td><td><a href="http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/denise2007portsmouth">Denise2007Portsmouth</a></td></tr>
<tr><td>Photo gallery:</td><td><a href="/gallery/2909414">Feeding an addiction</a></td></tr></table>
</html>
--- Denise

Hi Denise,
I seem to be having trouble just creating an html page. As suggested, I saved a Word document as html, then copied & pasted to Notepad. When my test document got saved as html, the copyright symbol changed to some other weird symbol. And when I copied & pasted to Notepad, I also got unwanted spaces between every paragraph.
How/where do I: 1) rectify the copyright symbol?
2) prevent unwanted wrong formatting that would be incredibly time-consuming to fix?

Thanks again.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 28, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
I seem to be having trouble just creating an html page. As suggested, I saved a Word document as html, then copied & pasted to Notepad. When my test document got saved as html, the copyright symbol changed to some other weird symbol. And when I copied & pasted to Notepad, I also got unwanted spaces between every paragraph.
How/where do I: 1) rectify the copyright symbol?
2) prevent unwanted wrong formatting that would be incredibly time-consuming to fix?

Thanks again.

lucy

Lucy -
As I said in my previous post, don't use a word document at all. Also, don't save your file as html outside of smugmug. Formatting that you add in a tool like Word cannot be used within HTML. It's ok to use Notepad, which doesn't add anything other than what you are typing. It's not ok to use Word or any other word processing tool. That's probably where the spaces came from.

Start in notepad, and type what you want there. You can use html to do formatting if you'd like. If you'd tell us what kind of formatting you want to do, we will be able to help with the html. Here's an example:

<[B]html[/B]>A starting and ending html tag is needed. 
<[B]br/[/B]> can be used to get a line break.
<[B]i[/B]>surround text with "i" html to get italics</[B]i[/B]>
<[B]b[/B]>surround text with "b" html to get bold</[B]b[/B]>
 
The reason the bold and italic text doesn't show is that I bolded the tags to trick the forum software. I thought you'd want to see the code that you need to enter as opposed to the results of the code.
</[B]html[/B]>

mogue · August 28, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:
Lucy -
As I said in my previous post, don't use a word document at all. Also, don't save your file as html outside of smugmug. Formatting that you add in a tool like Word cannot be used within HTML. It's ok to use Notepad, which doesn't add anything other than what you are typing. It's not ok to use Word or any other word processing tool. That's probably where the spaces came from.

Start in notepad, and type what you want there. You can use html to do formatting if you'd like. If you'd tell us what kind of formatting you want to do, we will be able to help with the html. Here's an example:
<[B]html[/B]>A starting and ending html tag is needed. 
<[B]br/[/B]> can be used to get a line break.
<[B]i[/B]>surround text with "i" html to get italics</[B]i[/B]>
<[B]b[/B]>surround text with "b" html to get bold</[B]b[/B]>
 
The reason the bold and italic text doesn't show is that I bolded the tags to trick the forum software. I thought you'd want to see the code that you need to enter as opposed to the results of the code.
</[B]html[/B]>
And here's a copyright symbol that you should be able to copy from here and paste into your html: ©

--- Denise

Denise,
Just want to get it absolutely clear—there's no way to cut & paste my Word documents to convert them to compatible Smugmug html text?? I have literally thousands of words of text and the idea of typing all of that out from scratch in Notepad sounds too incredibly time-consuming to be worth it.
Thanks.

lucy

Allen · August 28, 2007

mogue wrote:

Denise,
Just want to get it absolutely clear—there's no way to cut & paste my Word documents to convert them to compatible Smugmug html text?? I have literally thousands of words of text and the idea of typing all of that out from scratch in Notepad sounds too incredibly time-consuming to be worth it.
Thanks.

lucy

You can but it will take a lot of clean up. Paste one of your smaller word
generated html files into notepad, then copy from there and paste in here
between code tags.

[code]
paste here
[/code]

and we'll look to see how much clean up it needs. Be a fun experiment.:D

mogue · August 29, 2007

Allen wrote:

You can but it will take a lot of clean up. Paste one of your smaller word
generated html files into notepad, then copy from there and paste in here
between code tags.

[code]
Lilah

“I saw the secret police downtown today,” Lilah says.
“How do you know they were secret police?” I ask.
“A voice from my ghetto blaster told me.”
“Wow. Radio Shack must be selling a new kind of boom box. What else did the voice tell you?”
“And there’s a temple in the sky with gazelles and magnolia trees. But you have to be on God’s holy list to go there,” she whispers.
I’m sitting on a couch next to Lilah, who I just met at Fellowship Club, a county-run outpatient center for the social rehabilitation of mentally ill adults. Zach, my Therapy Dog, and I are on our second visit. Zach’s a gangly sweetheart of a Golden Retriever who’s a bit long in the back and leggy, but a creature awesomely at home wherever he finds himself—and with whomever.
About forty people, all low-income and ranging in age from twenty to eighty, are sitting on tattered couches or milling around the building’s large front room. There’s little interaction, though a shard of conversation can be heard from time to time. Most just sit staring at the air, looking more bored—or medicated—than demented. One man rests his head on an elbow, eyes closed. Generic rock music blasts from a stereo on a shelf next to a dime store goldfish bowl. A rickety upright piano sits mute against the wall.
Lilah is petting Zach, who sits on the floor between us. She starts at the tip of his nose, methodically works her way up to the top of his head, down to his shoulders, then back to the tip of his nose again. Zach sits placid as a buddha, reveling in her strokes. Watching them, a line from Whitman flashes through my head, “What is less, or more, than a touch?” I wonder how much
touch, if any, the people at Fellowship Club get.
Like many here, Lilah has the look of a street person—a few teeth short of the full complement, clothes more reminiscent of the Salvation Army than Versace. She’s fortyish with long black hair and an aura of bewilderment and apprehension.
“Do you think dogs are in that temple in the sky, too?” I ask.
She looks at Zach. “Oh, definitely. Dogs are better than people with cold hearts. And there’re ponies up there, too,” she says, eyes shining.
“It sounds like a terrific place,” I say.
There’s a pause in our dialogue. I’m uneasy with small talk in any social situation, but work harder here at Fellowship Club to push past my discomfort. “How do you like this cold weather?”
“Whatever weather God gives us I like,” Lilah answers.
“You’ll live a long life with an attitude like that. Lots of people complain about the cold and the rain, and anything else they can dig up to complain about.”
“And I think of the rain as angels crying.”
“That’s beautiful. You’re not a poet, are you?”
Am I doing this right or am I a dud, I’m thinking? Will I be liked, accepted? These people, often viewed as society’s rejects and treated accordingly, don’t trust easily. I lean my shin against Zach’s back for encouragement. His stillness fortifies me.
“I can tell you’re a good person and an honest person,” Lilah says. I’m startled by the compliment, and its timing. Just when I was beginning to lapse into self-doubt. I gather myself and say, smiling, “And I can tell you’re an excellent judge of character.”
We both break out in a huge laugh. It’s a spontaneous moment of shared exhilaration, and grace, between two strangers that generates a healing camaraderie and diminishes the distance between us. She’s so expressive it’s humbling. Her compliment is the kind of gesture that makes you feel buoyant and kindred. It reminds me how important it is to affirm one another, a powerful gift each of us can give one another but that few, including myself, bother to articulate. When we don’t, the other person never knows and we both miss out.
Ironic that the reminder comes from someone deemed less decorous or genteel than the rest of us. How heedlessly we make assumptions about people, and how costly our arrogance. Maybe because Lilah is unfettered by some of the social constraints that bind most of us, she’s freer to give. And might we not benefit from a reassessment of some of those constraints?
The mentally ill is a population I’m not unfamiliar with. As a kid, my favorite of the seven aunts was a manic-depressive who spent time on and off over the years in the locked ward of a county mental health facility, and the young cousin to whom I felt closest was a schizophrenic. I saw their hearts as well as their pathology.
“Do you tell stories?” Lilah asks.
How does she know that? “Well, I don’t usually tell them out loud, but I do write them down sometimes.”
“Oh, tell me a story,” she pleads, wide-eyed as a child at bedtime.
Unable to resist her enthusiasm, I do my best despite a greater fluency with the written than the spoken word. Lilah listens intently. Zach is now lying down at our feet, engaged in some serious snoozing. I notice that Lilah has snuggled her toe a few inches under his front paw.
“Are you from New York?” she asks when my story is finished.
I’m taken aback. And however could she know this? I lost my Brooklyn brogue thirty years ago, thank God. But her insights are a little spooky. Like the compliment, I’m beginning to sense that this woman, whose mental disarray has brought her to a place like this, is in some ways more clear-headed than some of the so-called sane people I see out in the world. How much does she see?
As we continue chatting, I notice how extraordinarily focused on our conversation Lilah is, and what a pleasure it is talking with her—warm, affectionate, reciprocal. She doesn’t have a hint of the gross self-involvement or shuck and jive pervasive in so many people I meet in day-to-day encounters. Her candor is refreshing, and I’m honored by her sincere interest in who I am—by the gift of her attention. I’ve become so engrossed in our chat myself that I nearly forget there are other guests at Fellowship Club with whom I ought to mingle. Reluctantly, Zach and I excuse ourselves.
Half an hour later, as we’re leaving, we see Lilah again. She’s leaning against a railing outside the front door of the building.
“Where’re you walking?” she asks, ambling over.
“My car’s just up the street.”
“Can I walk you to your car?”
“Sure.”
Zach jumps into the back seat. Lilah caresses his long, floppy ear, lingering over the tip. Then, as I unlock the driver’s door and turn to say good-bye, she gives me a hug—a tender, non-clingy, just-right hug.
Cruising up Chapala Street I realize that I’d forgot all about the anger I had felt over some annoyance that was still with me when I arrived at Fellowship Club an hour ago. Now all I feel is that the world is new and kind and jasmine-scented.

©Lucy Aron, The Latham Letter, Fall 1998

[/code]

and we'll look to see how much clean up it needs. Be a fun experiment.:D

Here's a small file example. I copied & pasted directly from Word to Notepad without first saving as html (which caused lots of formating problems before). This looks okay except the title should be centered and I lost the copyright symbol but pasted in the one Denise sent me in a previous post. What next and thanks.

lucy

denisegoldberg · August 31, 2007

mogue wrote:

Here's a small file example. I copied & pasted directly from Word to Notepad without first saving as html (which caused lots of formating problems before). This looks okay except the title should be centered and I lost the copyright symbol but pasted in the one Denise sent me in a previous post. What next and thanks.
lucy

Lucy -
Maybe Allen knows some shortcuts that I don't know... As he said in his earlier post, and as I think you understood from my earlier posts, taking your text and making it look "nice" in a gallery will take some work.

Anyway, here's an example. I took the text you entered, removed line breaks (because there were paragraphs that looked like they should flow but they jumped mid-stream to new lines), added line breaks and some indentation to separate the conversation with the thoughts. I did not do anything fancy with formatting.

The code is below, and for now you can look at the result in my Experiment gallery at http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3137264. It won't be there forever - this is a gallery I use for playing, so when I feel the need to try something new the code that I pasted in there today will be gone.

I'd also recommend that you look at this page for instructions on creating a text-only gallery: http://allen-steve.smugmug.com/gallery/3235336.

<html>Lilah<br/><br/>
&#8220;I saw the secret police downtown today,&#8221; Lilah says.
<br/><br/>
&#8220;How do you know they were secret police?&#8221; I ask.
<br/><br/>
&#8220;A voice from my ghetto blaster told me.&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Wow. Radio Shack must be selling a new kind of boom box. What else did the voice tell you?&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;And there&#8217;s a temple in the sky with gazelles and magnolia trees. But you have to be on God&#8217;s holy list to go there,&#8221; she whispers.
<blockquote>
I&#8217;m sitting on a couch next to Lilah, who I just met at Fellowship Club, a county-run outpatient center for the social rehabilitation of mentally ill adults. Zach, my Therapy Dog, and I are on our second visit. Zach&#8217;s a gangly sweetheart of a Golden Retriever who&#8217;s a bit long in the back and leggy, but a creature awesomely at home wherever he finds himself&#8212;and with whomever. 
About forty people, all low-income and ranging in age from twenty to eighty, are sitting on tattered couches or milling around the building&#8217;s large front room. There&#8217;s little interaction, though a shard of conversation can be heard from time to time. Most just sit staring at the air, looking more bored&#8212;or medicated&#8212;than demented. One man rests his head on an elbow, eyes closed. Generic rock music blasts from a stereo on a shelf next to a dime store goldfish bowl. A rickety upright piano sits mute against the wall. 
Lilah is petting Zach, who sits on the floor between us. She starts at the tip of his nose, methodically works her way up to the top of his head, down to his shoulders, then back to the tip of his nose again. Zach sits placid as a buddha, reveling in her strokes. Watching them, a line from Whitman flashes through my head, &#8220;What is less, or more, than a touch?&#8221; I wonder how much 
touch, if any, the people at Fellowship Club get. Like many here, Lilah has the look of a street person&#8212;a few teeth short of the full complement, clothes more reminiscent of the Salvation Army than Versace. She&#8217;s fortyish with long black hair and an aura of bewilderment and apprehension. 
</blockquote>
&#8220;Do you think dogs are in that temple in the sky, too?&#8221; I ask. 
<br/><br/>
She looks at Zach. &#8220;Oh, definitely. Dogs are better than people with cold hearts. And there&#8217;re ponies up there, too,&#8221; she says, eyes shining. 
<br/><br/>
&#8220;It sounds like a terrific place,&#8221; I say. There&#8217;s a pause in our dialogue. I&#8217;m uneasy with small talk in any social situation, but work harder here at Fellowship Club to push past my discomfort. &#8220;How do you like this cold weather?&#8221; 
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Whatever weather God gives us I like,&#8221; Lilah answers.
<br/><br/>
&#8220;You&#8217;ll live a long life with an attitude like that. Lots of people complain about the cold and the rain, and anything else they can dig up to complain about.&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;And I think of the rain as angels crying.&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;That&#8217;s beautiful. You&#8217;re not a poet, are you?&#8221; 
<blockquote>Am I doing this right or am I a dud, I&#8217;m thinking? Will I be liked, accepted? These people, often viewed as society&#8217;s rejects and treated accordingly, don&#8217;t trust easily. I lean my shin against Zach&#8217;s back for encouragement. His stillness fortifies me. 
</blockquote>
&#8220;I can tell you&#8217;re a good person and an honest person,&#8221; Lilah says. 
<blockquote>
I&#8217;m startled by the compliment, and its timing. Just when I was beginning to lapse into self-doubt. I gather myself and say, smiling, &#8220;And I can tell you&#8217;re an excellent judge of character.&#8221; 
We both break out in a huge laugh. It&#8217;s a spontaneous moment of shared exhilaration, and grace, between two strangers that generates a healing camaraderie and diminishes the distance between us. She&#8217;s so expressive it&#8217;s humbling. Her compliment is the kind of gesture that makes you feel buoyant and kindred. It reminds me how important it is to affirm one another, a powerful gift each of us can give one another but that few, including myself, bother to articulate. When we don&#8217;t, the other person never knows and we both miss out. Ironic that the reminder comes from someone deemed less decorous or genteel than the rest of us. How heedlessly we make assumptions about people, and how costly our arrogance. Maybe because Lilah is unfettered by some of the social constraints that bind most of us, she&#8217;s freer to give. And might we not benefit from a reassessment of some of those constraints? 
The mentally ill is a population I&#8217;m not unfamiliar with. As a kid, my favorite of the seven aunts was a manic-depressive who spent time on and off over the years in the locked ward of a county mental health facility, and the young cousin to whom I felt closest was a schizophrenic. I saw their hearts as well as their pathology.
</blockquote>
&#8220;Do you tell stories?&#8221; Lilah asks. 
<br/><br/>
How does she know that? &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t usually tell them out loud, but I do write them down sometimes.&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Oh, tell me a story,&#8221; she pleads, wide-eyed as a child at bedtime. 
<br/><br/>
Unable to resist her enthusiasm, I do my best despite a greater fluency with the written than the spoken word. Lilah listens intently. Zach is now lying down at our feet, engaged in some serious snoozing. I notice that Lilah has snuggled her toe a few inches under his front paw. 
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Are you from New York?&#8221; she asks when my story is finished. 
<blockquote>
I&#8217;m taken aback. And however could she know this? I lost my Brooklyn brogue thirty years ago, thank God. But her insights are a little spooky. Like the compliment, I&#8217;m beginning to sense that this woman, whose mental disarray has brought her to a place like this, is in some ways more clear-headed than some of the so-called sane people I see out in the world. How much does she see? 
As we continue chatting, I notice how extraordinarily focused on our conversation Lilah is, and what a pleasure it is talking with her&#8212;warm, affectionate, reciprocal. She doesn&#8217;t have a hint of the gross self-involvement or shuck and jive pervasive in so many people I meet in day-to-day encounters. Her candor is refreshing, and I&#8217;m honored by her sincere interest in who I am&#8212;by the gift of her attention. I&#8217;ve become so engrossed in our chat myself that I nearly forget there are other guests at Fellowship Club with whom I ought to mingle. Reluctantly, Zach and I excuse ourselves. 
Half an hour later, as we&#8217;re leaving, we see Lilah again. She&#8217;s leaning against a railing outside the front door of the building. 
</blockquote>
&#8220;Where&#8217;re you walking?&#8221; she asks, ambling over.
<br/><br/>
&#8220;My car&#8217;s just up the street.&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Can I walk you to your car?&#8221;
<br/><br/>
&#8220;Sure.&#8221;
Zach jumps into the back seat. Lilah caresses his long, floppy ear, lingering over the tip. Then, as I unlock the driver&#8217;s door and turn to say good-bye, she gives me a hug&#8212;a tender, non-clingy, just-right hug. Cruising up Chapala Street I realize that I&#8217;d forgot all about the anger I had felt over some annoyance that was still with me when I arrived at Fellowship Club an hour ago. Now all I feel is that the world is new and kind and jasmine-scented.
<br/><br/>
<blockquote><i>©Lucy Aron, The Latham Letter, Fall 1998</i></blockquote>
</html>

I hope this helps.
Of course you could just paste the text that you have into your description without making any changes, but it will look exactly like the source looked.

You said you have a lot of documents. What is it that you are really trying to accomplish here? Have you thought about using something like a blog for your text entries and linking from the blog entries to the photos in your gallery and then from your photos to the blog entry? I did include info above on how to do that, and you can see examples if you go to my blog (linked in my signature). The photos in my blog link to the same photo in my gallery. And the blog is designed for text entry with simple formatting (bold, italics, etc.). My blog is hosted at http://www.blogger.com, and there are other hosting sites out there too if you don't like that one.

--- Denise

mogue · September 3, 2007

denisegoldberg wrote:

Lucy -
Maybe Allen knows some shortcuts that I don't know... As he said in his earlier post, and as I think you understood from my earlier posts, taking your text and making it look "nice" in a gallery will take some work.

Anyway, here's an example. I took the text you entered, removed line breaks (because there were paragraphs that looked like they should flow but they jumped mid-stream to new lines), added line breaks and some indentation to separate the conversation with the thoughts. I did not do anything fancy with formatting.

The code is below, and for now you can look at the result in my Experiment gallery at http://denise.smugmug.com/gallery/3137264. It won't be there forever - this is a gallery I use for playing, so when I feel the need to try something new the code that I pasted in there today will be gone.

I'd also recommend that you look at this page for instructions on creating a text-only gallery: http://allen-steve.smugmug.com/gallery/3235336.

<html>Lilah 
“I saw the secret police downtown today,” Lilah says.
 
“How do you know they were secret police?” I ask.
 
“A voice from my ghetto blaster told me.”
 
“Wow. Radio Shack must be selling a new kind of boom box. What else did the voice tell you?”
 
“And there’s a temple in the sky with gazelles and magnolia trees. But you have to be on God’s holy list to go there,” she whispers.
<blockquote>
I’m sitting on a couch next to Lilah, who I just met at Fellowship Club, a county-run outpatient center for the social rehabilitation of mentally ill adults. Zach, my Therapy Dog, and I are on our second visit. Zach’s a gangly sweetheart of a Golden Retriever who’s a bit long in the back and leggy, but a creature awesomely at home wherever he finds himself—and with whomever.
About forty people, all low-income and ranging in age from twenty to eighty, are sitting on tattered couches or milling around the building’s large front room. There’s little interaction, though a shard of conversation can be heard from time to time. Most just sit staring at the air, looking more bored—or medicated—than demented. One man rests his head on an elbow, eyes closed. Generic rock music blasts from a stereo on a shelf next to a dime store goldfish bowl. A rickety upright piano sits mute against the wall.
Lilah is petting Zach, who sits on the floor between us. She starts at the tip of his nose, methodically works her way up to the top of his head, down to his shoulders, then back to the tip of his nose again. Zach sits placid as a buddha, reveling in her strokes. Watching them, a line from Whitman flashes through my head, “What is less, or more, than a touch?” I wonder how much
touch, if any, the people at Fellowship Club get. Like many here, Lilah has the look of a street person—a few teeth short of the full complement, clothes more reminiscent of the Salvation Army than Versace. She’s fortyish with long black hair and an aura of bewilderment and apprehension.
</blockquote>
“Do you think dogs are in that temple in the sky, too?” I ask.
 
She looks at Zach. “Oh, definitely. Dogs are better than people with cold hearts. And there’re ponies up there, too,” she says, eyes shining.
 
“It sounds like a terrific place,” I say. There’s a pause in our dialogue. I’m uneasy with small talk in any social situation, but work harder here at Fellowship Club to push past my discomfort. “How do you like this cold weather?”
 
“Whatever weather God gives us I like,” Lilah answers.
 
“You’ll live a long life with an attitude like that. Lots of people complain about the cold and the rain, and anything else they can dig up to complain about.”
 
“And I think of the rain as angels crying.”
 
“That’s beautiful. You’re not a poet, are you?”
<blockquote>Am I doing this right or am I a dud, I’m thinking? Will I be liked, accepted? These people, often viewed as society’s rejects and treated accordingly, don’t trust easily. I lean my shin against Zach’s back for encouragement. His stillness fortifies me.
</blockquote>
“I can tell you’re a good person and an honest person,” Lilah says.
<blockquote>
I’m startled by the compliment, and its timing. Just when I was beginning to lapse into self-doubt. I gather myself and say, smiling, “And I can tell you’re an excellent judge of character.”
We both break out in a huge laugh. It’s a spontaneous moment of shared exhilaration, and grace, between two strangers that generates a healing camaraderie and diminishes the distance between us. She’s so expressive it’s humbling. Her compliment is the kind of gesture that makes you feel buoyant and kindred. It reminds me how important it is to affirm one another, a powerful gift each of us can give one another but that few, including myself, bother to articulate. When we don’t, the other person never knows and we both miss out. Ironic that the reminder comes from someone deemed less decorous or genteel than the rest of us. How heedlessly we make assumptions about people, and how costly our arrogance. Maybe because Lilah is unfettered by some of the social constraints that bind most of us, she’s freer to give. And might we not benefit from a reassessment of some of those constraints?
The mentally ill is a population I’m not unfamiliar with. As a kid, my favorite of the seven aunts was a manic-depressive who spent time on and off over the years in the locked ward of a county mental health facility, and the young cousin to whom I felt closest was a schizophrenic. I saw their hearts as well as their pathology.
</blockquote>
“Do you tell stories?” Lilah asks.
 
How does she know that? “Well, I don’t usually tell them out loud, but I do write them down sometimes.”
 
“Oh, tell me a story,” she pleads, wide-eyed as a child at bedtime.
 
Unable to resist her enthusiasm, I do my best despite a greater fluency with the written than the spoken word. Lilah listens intently. Zach is now lying down at our feet, engaged in some serious snoozing. I notice that Lilah has snuggled her toe a few inches under his front paw.
 
“Are you from New York?” she asks when my story is finished.
<blockquote>
I’m taken aback. And however could she know this? I lost my Brooklyn brogue thirty years ago, thank God. But her insights are a little spooky. Like the compliment, I’m beginning to sense that this woman, whose mental disarray has brought her to a place like this, is in some ways more clear-headed than some of the so-called sane people I see out in the world. How much does she see?
As we continue chatting, I notice how extraordinarily focused on our conversation Lilah is, and what a pleasure it is talking with her—warm, affectionate, reciprocal. She doesn’t have a hint of the gross self-involvement or shuck and jive pervasive in so many people I meet in day-to-day encounters. Her candor is refreshing, and I’m honored by her sincere interest in who I am—by the gift of her attention. I’ve become so engrossed in our chat myself that I nearly forget there are other guests at Fellowship Club with whom I ought to mingle. Reluctantly, Zach and I excuse ourselves.
Half an hour later, as we’re leaving, we see Lilah again. She’s leaning against a railing outside the front door of the building.
</blockquote>
“Where’re you walking?” she asks, ambling over.
 
“My car’s just up the street.”
 
“Can I walk you to your car?”
 
“Sure.”
Zach jumps into the back seat. Lilah caresses his long, floppy ear, lingering over the tip. Then, as I unlock the driver’s door and turn to say good-bye, she gives me a hug—a tender, non-clingy, just-right hug. Cruising up Chapala Street I realize that I’d forgot all about the anger I had felt over some annoyance that was still with me when I arrived at Fellowship Club an hour ago. Now all I feel is that the world is new and kind and jasmine-scented.
 
<blockquote>©Lucy Aron, The Latham Letter, Fall 1998</blockquote>
</html>

I hope this helps.
Of course you could just paste the text that you have into your description without making any changes, but it will look exactly like the source looked.

You said you have a lot of documents. What is it that you are really trying to accomplish here? Have you thought about using something like a blog for your text entries and linking from the blog entries to the photos in your gallery and then from your photos to the blog entry? I did include info above on how to do that, and you can see examples if you go to my blog (linked in my signature). The photos in my blog link to the same photo in my gallery. And the blog is designed for text entry with simple formatting (bold, italics, etc.). My blog is hosted at http://www.blogger.com, and there are other hosting sites out there too if you don't like that one.

--- Denise

Hi Denise,
Forgive me for not responding sooner but for some reason I didn't receive your e-mail automatically and didn't stumble on it till today. I'll check out the blog host since that seems to be more format friendly than smugmug (esp important for poetry), but first would like to try some of your earlier ideas.
Your link to Lilah didn't quite get the formatting. I don't want any spaces at all between paragraphs. Here's what I'd like to try. I want to link from my ""More" gallery to the photographs of "Prose" and "Poetry." Then I want to link from the "Prose" photo to a prose "Contents" page, then link from the prose "Contents" page to each item on it. And same scenario for the poetry.
Using Notepad, I copied & pasted a prose "Contents" page into the gallery description. The link is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. It looks okay except the text is white and I want it to be black. Can you tell me how to link the Prose" photo (http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855/1/191102875/Large) to the "Contents" page and how to make the text black? Also, do I need to change the gallery style or any other changes.
And hopefully we can take the next step. I prepared all the items on the Prose "Contents" page and need to know where/how I upload them?
Thanks so much again.

lucy

mogue · December 30, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
Forgive me for not responding sooner but for some reason I didn't receive your e-mail automatically and didn't stumble on it till today. I'll check out the blog host since that seems to be more format friendly than smugmug (esp important for poetry), but first would like to try some of your earlier ideas.
Your link to Lilah didn't quite get the formatting. I don't want any spaces at all between paragraphs. Here's what I'd like to try. I want to link from my ""More" gallery to the photographs of "Prose" and "Poetry." Then I want to link from the "Prose" photo to a prose "Contents" page, then link from the prose "Contents" page to each item on it. And same scenario for the poetry.
Using Notepad, I copied & pasted a prose "Contents" page into the gallery description. The link is http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855. It looks okay except the text is white and I want it to be black. Can you tell me how to link the Prose" photo (http://shilohbear.smugmug.com/gallery/3345855/1/191102875/Large) to the "Contents" page and how to make the text black? Also, do I need to change the gallery style or any other changes.
And hopefully we can take the next step. I prepared all the items on the Prose "Contents" page and need to know where/how I upload them?
Thanks so much again.

lucy

Hi Denise,
I finally set up a blog for my text as you suggested—www.shilohbear.blogspot.com. However I couldn't figure out: 1) how to indent for paragraphs 2) how to nest pieces inthe sidebar on home page, i.e. place individual poems under Poetry Contents and prose under Prose Contents. Any suggestions?
Also, I'd like to link to them as follows if possible: from shilohbear.smugmug.com to "More" gallery to either Prose or Poetry pix (within "More") and then click to either Poetry or Prose Contents in blog, and then to hopefully nestedindividual pieces.
Whew! Any help much appreciated. Hope you have and joyful and healthy new year.

lucy

denisegoldberg · December 30, 2007

mogue wrote:

Hi Denise,
I finally set up a blog for my text as you suggested—www.shilohbear.blogspot.com. However I couldn't figure out: 1) how to indent for paragraphs 2) how to nest pieces inthe sidebar on home page, i.e. place individual poems under Poetry Contents and prose under Prose Contents. Any suggestions?
Also, I'd like to link to them as follows if possible: from shilohbear.smugmug.com to "More" gallery to either Prose or Poetry pix (within "More") and then click to either Poetry or Prose Contents in blog, and then to hopefully nestedindividual pieces.
Whew! Any help much appreciated. Hope you have and joyful and healthy new year.

lucy

Lucy -
Unfortunately, all of the blogs I know - including blogger - are set up in a latest entry first manner. So each blog entry is shown latest first. I'm not aware of any way to set up a blog so that it has nested entries. If you really want nested entries you will probably need to roll your own in smugmug using html-only galleries for your text (possibly picking up photos from other galleries) - and those galleries can contain links to other galleries. Well actually, you could sort of do that with blogger too, linking directly from one blogger entry to another.

You can link from blog entry to blog entry if you'd like. And you can link from your smugmug gallery either to the blog as a whole (http://shilohbear.blogspot.com/) or to a specific blog entry, for example, http://shilohbear.blogspot.com/2007/11/north-of-oz.html.

You can embed photos in your blog from your smugmug site by using a combination of 2 html statements.
Here's an example of those statements using my own galleries (remove the *s, included to keep the forum software from swallowing the html):

Just show a photo:
<*img src="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/photos/234867708-S.jpg">

Show a photo plus link to it in the gallery:
<*a href="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/gallery/4034380/2/234867708">
<*img src="http://www.denisegoldberg.com/photos/234867708-S.jpg"><*/a>

As far as adding additional sections to your blog, log in to blogger.com, then click Layout for your blog. You'll see a tab called Template. Within that tab you can add additional sections - what blogger calls page elements. And you can position those page elements. You can see examples if you look at my blog - which links to my photos and my journals.

You should be able to use this to create two sections, one titled Prose contents, and the other Poetry contents. Creating a Link List page element should give you your two sections. I'd highly recommend that you link back to your smugmug galleries too - maybe from a general link section.

You currently have a blog entry called contents that lists all of your blog entries. That page would be more effective if you changed the simple list to be a list of links (although you probably don't need the page at all once you create Link List elements for your poetry and prose). For example, instead of entering

Connoisseur of Dirt

You would enter (after removing the *s)

<*a href="http://shilohbear.blogspot.com/2007/11/connoisseur-of-dirt.html">Connoisseur of Dirt<*/a>

I hope this helps gets you where you are trying to go.

--- Denise

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