NATURE LOVERS AND LCD screens??
HI, I thought I'd ask you all first rather than in the printing forum because I KNOW we are more particular about real color than other photographers. For one thing, most shoot their stuff, go home, and forget the exact colors and work simply off their screen. Not true for nature lovers who frequent places regularly and need accurate skies, greens, yellows and detail.
Simply had to get a new screen after my CRT gave out on me, fighting it for years after finding the Canon 9000 printer, my camera and my screen matched perfectly, this year and I knew what I was in for changing, after trying for a year to get an epson to calibrate to my work which I felt was as close to nature as the eye saw it. To no avail. Dumped the Epson, happy with the Canon. Perfect color. Since the new printer I have been in hog heaven.
Now, I do know color. I am from the art world not the tech world although I've been in graphic design for 5 years, I don't think I am stupid about this stuff, but admit, I manage well so I don't spend time reading alot. [due to neck problems, I like to pretend I'm in the efficient mode, lol]
Here is what is recommended to me to adapt to a LCD screen, after looking in horror at my 'old' album, and newer uploaded photos.:
1. Read three books about color management
2. Accept that LCD's do not have Yellow as a primary color [hence the red/green problems in the temperature settings, as you can't get yellow from a turnip]lol
3. Calibrate, calibrate calibrate!
4. Accept that the 'new color managed world' is just that--BRIGHT BLUE, bright blown out whites, sharp as a tack and lovely poster colors. Very pleasing to the masses, but forget it if you are on the screen all day and don't want to burn your eyeballs up.
5. Accept that nature colors aren't real and managed color is "in".
6. Accept that even though your printer, screen, and world match perfectly, it doesn't mean it is right.
7.Which is easier, throwing away the camera, buy a point and shoot, throw away the new printer that was perfect until the new screen?
8. Don't touch your pictures, just resize and sharpen. That way there is a chance even though you can't see what actual color they are, they may be great.
9. Guess on the color add a pinch of yellow forever and ever, in your printer properties, because that is the only place on earth you will see yellow again in the managed PC world?
Anyway, I bought the newer wide screen LG 22inch this week, and although its a nice screen, and I love the idea of presets [I've piled up quite a few modes now:bow ] and swithc back and forth. But the prints are horrible now. Forever looking for a yellow magic wand, or anything natural. And since when do RGB decided to leave out the Y?
Any help appreciated! Any body go thru this? Keep your screens if you are happy----is all I can say. My eyes are burning up at this moment. And I ahve lost the desire to go shoot because its not fun when you get home.
thnx for youe comments
P.S. does anyone know of a simple calibrating program that offers manual choices for yellows? I am sooooo tired of bright blue and bright red, and crayon greens!
Simply had to get a new screen after my CRT gave out on me, fighting it for years after finding the Canon 9000 printer, my camera and my screen matched perfectly, this year and I knew what I was in for changing, after trying for a year to get an epson to calibrate to my work which I felt was as close to nature as the eye saw it. To no avail. Dumped the Epson, happy with the Canon. Perfect color. Since the new printer I have been in hog heaven.
Now, I do know color. I am from the art world not the tech world although I've been in graphic design for 5 years, I don't think I am stupid about this stuff, but admit, I manage well so I don't spend time reading alot. [due to neck problems, I like to pretend I'm in the efficient mode, lol]
Here is what is recommended to me to adapt to a LCD screen, after looking in horror at my 'old' album, and newer uploaded photos.:
1. Read three books about color management
2. Accept that LCD's do not have Yellow as a primary color [hence the red/green problems in the temperature settings, as you can't get yellow from a turnip]lol
3. Calibrate, calibrate calibrate!
4. Accept that the 'new color managed world' is just that--BRIGHT BLUE, bright blown out whites, sharp as a tack and lovely poster colors. Very pleasing to the masses, but forget it if you are on the screen all day and don't want to burn your eyeballs up.
5. Accept that nature colors aren't real and managed color is "in".
6. Accept that even though your printer, screen, and world match perfectly, it doesn't mean it is right.
7.Which is easier, throwing away the camera, buy a point and shoot, throw away the new printer that was perfect until the new screen?
8. Don't touch your pictures, just resize and sharpen. That way there is a chance even though you can't see what actual color they are, they may be great.
9. Guess on the color add a pinch of yellow forever and ever, in your printer properties, because that is the only place on earth you will see yellow again in the managed PC world?
Anyway, I bought the newer wide screen LG 22inch this week, and although its a nice screen, and I love the idea of presets [I've piled up quite a few modes now:bow ] and swithc back and forth. But the prints are horrible now. Forever looking for a yellow magic wand, or anything natural. And since when do RGB decided to leave out the Y?
Any help appreciated! Any body go thru this? Keep your screens if you are happy----is all I can say. My eyes are burning up at this moment. And I ahve lost the desire to go shoot because its not fun when you get home.
thnx for youe comments
P.S. does anyone know of a simple calibrating program that offers manual choices for yellows? I am sooooo tired of bright blue and bright red, and crayon greens!
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I'm just a color nut and realize now how good I had it before. I guess it will take some time, more ink, more paper and more burning eyes to get this right.