need help with this fog

digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
edited February 24, 2005 in Wildlife
ok, took some shots on a very foggy parkway this evening and this is the only one I kinda sorta like....I could use some input on how to make things like this more interesting. If I had photoshop, I'd take out the intruding twigs in the upper left corner, and I'd even take out that rock maybe? I dunno.

I suppose this is why I don't do much else other than macro and still lifes, lol. thanks for any feedback coming my way!

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    ok, took some shots on a very foggy parkway this evening and this is the only one I kinda sorta like....I could use some input on how to make things like this more interesting. If I had photoshop, I'd take out the intruding twigs in the upper left corner, and I'd even take out that rock maybe? I dunno.

    I suppose this is why I don't do much else other than macro and still lifes, lol. thanks for any feedback coming my way!

    what do you use for editing? if cost is a concern, photoshop elements or paintshop pro can be had for way less than $100. and there's a free application, the name escapes me, someone will chime in ...
  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    andy wrote:
    what do you use for editing? if cost is a concern, photoshop elements or paintshop pro can be had for way less than $100. and there's a free application, the name escapes me, someone will chime in ...
    for basic things like bright/con and such I use what came on my computer~Microsoft picture it publishing 2001.

    my best friend just got a great deal on an upgrade for her computer and all this software including the newest PS....I need to give him a call.

    in the meantime I just make do....or upload to my gallery and go over to her house, lol.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    Andy, is the free app you're thinking of called Irfanview ?
    Sid.
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  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    Andy, is the free app you're thinking of called Irfanview ?
    i need some honest here about the shot.....it's interesting to me and then it's not.....headscratch.gif
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    ok, took some shots on a very foggy parkway this evening and this is the only one I kinda sorta like....I could use some input on how to make things like this more interesting. If I had photoshop, I'd take out the intruding twigs in the upper left corner, and I'd even take out that rock maybe? I dunno.

    I suppose this is why I don't do much else other than macro and still lifes, lol. thanks for any feedback coming my way!

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    That's a really nice shot. thumb.gif Yeah, I'd clone out the twigs, but not the rock. You have a nice exposure, too. I'd play with Selective Color/Black, just to see what happened. But that's a really nice image as is. Love fog!
    Sid.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    Andy, is the free app you're thinking of called Irfanview ?

    no, but irfanview is good, esp for batch sorting, renaming, and light editing.

    i was thinking of the gimp have seen very good results from this deal.gif
  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    andy wrote:
    no, but irfanview is good, esp for batch sorting, renaming, and light editing.

    i was thinking of the gimp have seen very good results from this deal.gif
    breezed over that page....can I clone out stuff with this? If so...then thumb.gif and I'll have to kiss you for it! :D
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    ok d.f. ...

    first of all, sid's right the shot doesn't need much.. a tiny bit of curves adjsutment for "punch" and that was it, besides the cloning out of the stray branch upper left.

    i also gave it a luminosity tone just to see what that would look like .. certainly it's a personal taste, and imo, both types of treatment work here.

    take a look at the gimp (free) and ps elements (about $70).

    (images by digital faerie)

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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,250 moderator
    edited February 24, 2005
    i need some honest here about the shot.....it's interesting to me and then it's not.....headscratch.gif
    I like this pic a lot! :D. You are correct, I think, about the bottom left and top left elements being removed to simplify the composition, and bring the eye to the subject (the branch) against the background.

    Now, when you get a real editing tool...

    ...one direction:
    A little more judicial contrast (but never use a "contrast" tool!) would allow the greytones in the middle area of the fog to turn lighter, allowing the darker branches there in the foreground to stand out more.

    ...another direction:
    Soften it up a bit with less of a contrast.

    Great capture, whatever you do to it eventually.
    My Smugmug
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    and I'll have to kiss you for it! :D


    :lynn i'm a happily married man, but you may kiss my sherpa, aka wxwax (long story) lol3.gif
  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    andy wrote:
    :lynn i'm a happily married man, but you may kiss my sherpa, aka wxwax (long story) lol3.gif
    perhaps I will when he and I throw our dgrin birthday party since we share the same illustrious day! mwink.gif
  • SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited February 24, 2005
    Change
    How about this?



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  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    David_S85 wrote:
    I like this pic a lot! :D. You are correct, I think, about the bottom left and top left elements being removed to simplify the composition, and bring the eye to the subject (the branch) against the background.

    Now, when you get a real editing tool...

    ...one direction:
    A little more judicial contrast (but never use a "contrast" tool!) would allow the greytones in the middle area of the fog to turn lighter, allowing the darker branches there in the foreground to stand out more.

    ...another direction:
    Soften it up a bit with less of a contrast.

    Great capture, whatever you do to it eventually.
    thank you for the detailed feedback, ALL OF YOU! I think PS would just be a good investment....in the meantime I'm happy with shooting full-frame and if it's not ok because of such and such so be it. I'll have those for later piddling.

    eventually I'm going to set up camp in the photoshop forum and take copious notes! :D
  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    How about this?



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    looks like something that should be on a BAUHAUS album cover. I like it a lot actually.
  • Nee7x7Nee7x7 Registered Users Posts: 459 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    My take on it...
    Rather than clone, I'd crop some of the top off, so that the shape of the tree trunk and the rock relate more to each other and are the main focal points. I'd also maybe tone it with a dark neutral brown tone (see attached photo). I think there's a lot of potential esp. if you going for a somewhat eerie feeling.

    Cheers!
    ~Nee :)
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    perhaps I will when he and I throw our dgrin birthday party since we share the same illustrious day! mwink.gif
    Shhhhhh! Next they'll be asking how old and we don't want to get into that.
    Sid.
    Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
    http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
  • digital faeriedigital faerie Registered Users Posts: 667 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    Nee7x7 wrote:
    Rather than clone, I'd crop some of the top off, so that the shape of the tree trunk and the rock relate more to each other and are the main focal points. I'd also maybe tone it with a dark neutral brown tone (see attached photo). I think there's a lot of potential esp. if you going for a somewhat eerie feeling.

    Cheers!
    ~Nee :)
    oh nee! thumb.gif wow, what a dramatic difference. I like it I like it!!!
  • Nee7x7Nee7x7 Registered Users Posts: 459 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    Funny thing is...
    oh nee! thumb.gif wow, what a dramatic difference. I like it I like it!!!

    I never saw Andy's version until after I posted mine, Laughing.gif! Glad you like it~ Nee :D
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited February 24, 2005
    Wow, so many great responses so quickly. This must be a sign of an impressive photo; I certainly think so. Good job on the original and I like the many editing offerings.
  • fishfish Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited February 24, 2005
    How about this?
    damonff, you are on a 7 day ban. Coming back with alternative usernames violates that ban. If you continue to do so, your 7 day ban will turn permanent. Do you really want that? Do yourself a favor and go spend the week over at dpreview or FM.
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