3 or 6 stop ND Filter for "creamy" seascapes

Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
edited October 9, 2007 in Accessories
Hi there,

I want to shoot seascapes around sunsets/sunrises
with long exposure times (~1 to 60 sec) at f5.6-f11
to get the distinct creamy blurr effect in the water.

Judgeing from your experience, which filter factor
would you recommend me to get? 3 stops or 6 stops?
“To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
― Edward Weston

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 25, 2007
    I use a 10stop thumb.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,939 moderator
    edited August 31, 2007
    What Andy said. But it doesn't hurt to have a set.
    Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited August 31, 2007
    Thanks guys. I faithfully placed my order for a
    B&W ND 3.0 (=10 stop). I can't wait to try it out. thumb.gif
    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited September 6, 2007
    Still waiting for delivery ... 10 stop filter seems to be on
    backorder because of all those seascape photographers. mwink.gif
    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • eoren1eoren1 Registered Users Posts: 2,391 Major grins
    edited September 7, 2007
    How to choose a filter set
    Just hoping for a bit of advice on selecting a ND/GND filter set.
    Manufacturers: I assume there is a difference between Lee and B+W
    Format: threaded vs square - do you use the threaded with step-up rings?
    If square, how do you mount them (which system do you use)?
    How many do you recommend? A 0.3 and 0.6 to be able to stack and get 0.9?
    Hope you don't mind the very noobie filter questions - I keep meaning to look into this aspect of photography but haven't dived in yet.
    Thanks!
    E
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited September 7, 2007
    eoren1 wrote:
    Just hoping for a bit of advice on selecting a ND/GND filter set.
    Manufacturers: I assume there is a difference between Lee and B+W
    Format: threaded vs square - do you use the threaded with step-up rings?
    If square, how do you mount them (which system do you use)?
    How many do you recommend? A 0.3 and 0.6 to be able to stack and get 0.9?
    Hope you don't mind the very noobie filter questions - I keep meaning to look into this aspect of photography but haven't dived in yet.
    Thanks!
    E

    I dont know about others, but I buy special purpose filters in 77mm
    which is the largest size some of my lenses accept without an adapter.
    For smaller lenses I use a stepup filter and save costs. I also have various
    77mm screw on lens hoods to put on the filters because the stepup
    adapers prevents the original lenshoods from fitting on the lens.
    But then how would you be able to turn a polfilter when its sitting
    deep inside a lenshood?

    The Cokin P system and the Lee system are mainly usefull when you
    plan to use graduated filters because they allow to adjust the position
    of the filter relative to the horizon.

    It's possible to recreate the effect of a graduated filter later in photoshop
    which is why I decided against the Lee/Cokin system.

    Edit:

    As for brands, you cannot go wrong with B&W or Heliopan (screw on filters)
    Lee is also a highly regarded brand, Cokin is a somewhat cheaper - but not bad -
    incarnation of the same system.
    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • CatOneCatOne Registered Users Posts: 957 Major grins
    edited September 9, 2007
    Manfr3d wrote:
    Hi there,

    I want to shoot seascapes around sunsets/sunrises
    with long exposure times (~1 to 60 sec) at f5.6-f11
    to get the distinct creamy blurr effect in the water.

    Judgeing from your experience, which filter factor
    would you recommend me to get? 3 stops or 6 stops?

    Singh-Ray VariND... let's you "dial in" between 2 and 10 stops at your discretion.
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    It's just not cheap. Not at all.
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  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited September 10, 2007
    CatOne wrote:
    Singh-Ray VariND... let's you "dial in" between 2 and 10 stops at your discretion.
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    It's just not cheap. Not at all.
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    I didn't know such thing existed. Great find!
    It looks way thick though ... and will likely
    cause vignetting on my Sigma 10-20mm/4-5.6 EX.

    I'll make it a bootmark for later drooling over
    new equipment to buy :D
    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited September 10, 2007
    The Vari-Grad will definitely vingette at 24mm or a little more on a full frame camera.
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  • Tom K.Tom K. Registered Users Posts: 817 Major grins
    edited October 9, 2007
    pathfinder wrote:
    The Vari-Grad will definitely vignette at 24mm or a little more on a full frame camera.

    Just get the [FONT=Geneva,MS Sans Serif,Helvetica,Arial]"Wide-Angle Ring Mount" version and you won't get any vignetting.[/FONT]
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