Photography Careers

BrettBrett Registered Users Posts: 218 Major grins
edited March 2, 2005 in Mind Your Own Business
I plan on going to college once I'm done highschool for photography. I have my sights set on Georgian College in Barrie Ontario because it's strictly digital photography. What I wan't to know, is it possible to make a good living from photography. We have quite a few photographers and photography shops here so I'm assuming it is possible. I know it depends on several things like skill, knowledge, personality, training, location etc. But is it worth it? I love photography with a passion and would rather do something I love for less money then something I hate for more money.
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  • ridetwistyroadsridetwistyroads Registered Users Posts: 526 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    Brett wrote:
    .......and would rather do something I love for less money then something I hate for more money.
    Those are words to live by, mate. Some people don't figure that out for a long, long time.
    Not much help with a photography career myself, as I'm looking heavily at a big change up myself. I'll be watching this thread close, though.
    "There is a place for me somewhere, where I can write and speak much as I think, and make it pay for my living and some besides. Just where this place is I have small idea now, but I am going to find it" Carl Sandburg
  • morrisphotography2003morrisphotography2003 Registered Users Posts: 208 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    I have found that it is all worth it, just this past weekend I found out that a local newspaper photographer from Defiance, Ohio got the job of a life time. He is under contract with NASCAR. But you have to keep in mind that as long as you are having fun that is all that matters. Good luck and keep the camera up:flash
    Brett wrote:
    I plan on going to college once I'm done highschool for photography. I have my sights set on Georgian College in Barrie Ontario because it's strictly digital photography. What I wan't to know, is it possible to make a good living from photography. We have quite a few photographers and photography shops here so I'm assuming it is possible. I know it depends on several things like skill, knowledge, personality, training, location etc. But is it worth it? I love photography with a passion and would rather do something I love for less money then something I hate for more money.
  • dragon300zxdragon300zx Registered Users Posts: 2,575 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    Ya know what they say... If you love what you do, and are good at what you love then you can actually end up making more money in the long run. Don't forget Ben & Jerry's after all..
    Everyone Has A Photographic Memory. Some Just Do Not Have Film.
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  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    Brett wrote:
    But is it worth it? I love photography with a passion and would rather do something I love for less money then something I hate for more money.

    People make livings doing most anything. Some people make fantastic livings doing most anything. So yes, its possible. And if you have the drive it makes it all the more easier.

    Doing something you love is a great thing. Doing something you hate is not, regardless the salary. However, I will leave you with some words my dad gave me. When he was young he wanted to go either into automotive or electronics. He liked them both. Electronics paid better. He went that route for two principal reasons: the pay was better, and he enjoyed cars as a hobby. In other words, he didn't want to work all day on cars, and then go home from work to work on cars as his hobby. The reason this worked out well for him was that it kept his life balanced, and he didn't hate electronics.

    Its easy to say "I want to do what I love as opposed to what I hate". Anyone can say that, and its an obvious statement. The harder question becomes when things get gray. You can make more money at a different career that you like, but its not what you love. But the career you merely like gives you the opportunity to have a hobby in what you love. There is no harm in that.
    Bill Jurasz - Mercury Photography - Cedar Park, TX
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    Brett wrote:
    I plan on going to college once I'm done highschool for photography. I have my sights set on Georgian College in Barrie Ontario because it's strictly digital photography. What I wan't to know, is it possible to make a good living from photography. We have quite a few photographers and photography shops here so I'm assuming it is possible. I know it depends on several things like skill, knowledge, personality, training, location etc. But is it worth it? I love photography with a passion and would rather do something I love for less money then something I hate for more money.

    My experience is, and I have watched the art world since the middle of the sixties, and my experience is that it can have much more to do with salesmanship, business skills, and intensity, drive, than it has to do with talent.

    Yes, I have seen someone leave the high school photography place, open a studio, he makes a fortune per shoot. Some bigger fortunes than others.
    He is from England, tall, dark, handsome, great people skills, probably in his early fifties now.

    I see the photographers, young women, taking pictures of children on the beach. For that mornings work, they make thousands. But I have only seen them in the summer, Sat mornings, so it isn't all profit, they have to make thousands. And I am sure they have good people skills, a great children's portfolio, and a studio also set up for families and children.

    And can you imagine how sick they get of taking the "same" shots over and over. They brought out on the beach a child or family every hour or so. Same thing over and over. But that is their bread and butter. One does need bread and butter. I wanted to be a photojournalist, don't know how boring that is, and I have not seen it work, so............. Someone else would have to tell you about that. But you can make money, if you have the people skills. That is the most important thing.

    Look at Andy and Harry and the other successful people here. People not only like their photography, they have wonderful people skills. They may make a few enemies, but they aren't people they needed in the first place.

    ginger (Read a book called Shutterbabe, it is not as the title would suggest, it is an autobiography of a photojournalist and the places she goes, what she goes through. She is just out of college when it starts.)
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    Ginger's comments reminded me of two things.

    She is right that photography as a career is as much business, if not more, than it is skill in photography. My sales person at my local camera shop admitted to me months ago that his college education didn't focus at all on the business end. Marketing, promotion, negotiating contracts and prices, evaluating markets. Make sure your college photography degree touches on these subjects. Or take electives in them. Or learn those skills yourself, somewhere.

    Don't expect to be self-employed in a business if you don't understand business skills. Its one of several good reasons why I keep the day job, and photograph on the side.

    The other thing Ginger was right about is the possibility of boredom. In 2004 I photographed a shifter kart race in Austin, and I had a chance to talk with the Shifter Kart Illustrated photographer for 30 minutes. He said he used to photograph CART events, and one year in Montreal he told himself "I shot Michael Andretti, at this corner, in that car, with that sponsor and color scheme, and that car owner, last year. And the year before. And the year before that." He got bored. He said others like him felt the same way. So he switched to photographing different subjects. He fought his boredom by realizing it was happening and making a change.
    Bill Jurasz - Mercury Photography - Cedar Park, TX
    A former sports shooter
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  • BrettBrett Registered Users Posts: 218 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    All these comments really throw a curve at me. My plan was to go out of town for photography. I know it will be expensive but I get to do what I love. If I was to stay in town, I would end up taking a business course in College. I guess I wouldn't mind it, but I can't say that I'd enjoy it either. Obviously I want a job that pays well and that I love, but I wonder if photography can give me both in a smaller town that I live in.
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  • JohnRJohnR Registered Users Posts: 732 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    You are 17, you have a lot ahead of you. You will learn a lot over time.

    Best advice I can give you is go to college and take some business courses and practice with your photography. Heck, you may work in a different field but make some nice $$ to support your habit. thumb.gif
  • marlinspikemarlinspike Registered Users Posts: 2,095 Major grins
    edited March 2, 2005
    From the conversations I've had with pro photogs I get the feeling it's hard to make money unless you are working near/in a city and do what I call the photography business (i.e. weddings, pro sports and portraits if you're good). Then again, the photographers I've personally met didn't go to college for it.
    Richard
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