Ch 33 - Family Heirloom

Angelo · March 2, 2005

Oops!

Please comment. Can you be this bruttal?

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DRebelGirl · March 2, 2005

Uh oh....
That looks painful!

I like the 2nd one best for some reason....I think it's because I can
tell what it is better than the other 2 shots.

fish · March 2, 2005

You are in deep sh$t, angelo... :lynn

BridgeCity · March 2, 2005

Angelo

In #2, did you attempt to sweep the debrit (sp?) in an L shape like that? Or is that just how it broke? I would be interested in the the physics of breaking like that, if it wasnt touched

Call me a nerd... Im ok with it

fish · March 2, 2005

BridgeCity wrote:

Angelo

In #2, did you attempt to sweep the debrit (sp?) in an L shape like that? Or is that just how it broke? I would be interested in the the physics of breaking like that, if it wasnt touched

Call me a nerd... Im ok with it

That's also the sharpest image of the bunch.

johno · March 2, 2005

There are easier ways to enter a challenge Angelo... I think the better shot would be your face and not the broken vase.

peace.
johno~

Sorry for your loss. Remember, there is always ebay.

snapapple · March 3, 2005

Hi Angelo,
I like the second one for it's sharpness. All three make very good abstracts, but I don't think they make it for the topic. They are the result of someone's emotions, but they don't show emotion in the picture. I'd like to see the person who discovered this catastrophe. What did her face look like?

ginger_55 · March 3, 2005

Angelo, I agree with Snappy. But remember, I was the one who didn't/doesn't like the snake with the mouse shots for this challenge.

This challenge seems very difficult. The last challenge had so many fantastic entries, I am not seeing it here. Something will come out and be good, but it isn't easy. That soccer team picture will win if it is sharp. Just my opinion. But when I cropped it, it wasn't sharp.

ginger

Angelo · March 3, 2005

thank you all for your comments. Much appreciated.

Bridge: I'll reveal my answer after the challenge (should I decide to enter one of these)

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Fish - well... we'll see

John, Snappy, Ginger: I think imagining the reaction could be perceived as part of emotion, no? The challenge is about showing or evoking emotion?

I won't give up yet. Thanks again.

Mongrel · March 3, 2005

hmmmm...
Sorry Angelo, this just doesn't *work* for *me*. I understand the context because of the title but the destruction of the piece is so total that it's hard to really appreciate that it had any value to begin with.

In other words, if for instance, you showed a beautiful painting that had a major slash right through the center of it-that I could understand without a caption. Or a fantastic piece of pottery with *just* a crack in it-so that you knew it was ruined but there was enough of it still together so you could appreciate the value it *had*.

The pictures really only miss because the subject is indistinguishable (man, that's a big word-did I spell it right?). The lighting is neat and worth pursuing another time.

I hope your didn't break that just for the picture (unless of course it isn't really a family heirloom).

Shakey · March 3, 2005

Dude my dad has a wicked set of tools. I can fix it!:D

Tim

Angelo · March 3, 2005

Mongrel wrote:

Sorry Angelo, this just doesn't *work* for *me*. I understand the context because of the title but the destruction of the piece is so total that it's hard to really appreciate that it had any value to begin with.

In other words, if for instance, you showed a beautiful painting that had a major slash right through the center of it-that I could understand without a caption. Or a fantastic piece of pottery with *just* a crack in it-so that you knew it was ruined but there was enough of it still together so you could appreciate the value it *had*.

The pictures really only miss because the subject is indistinguishable (man, that's a big word-did I spell it right?). The lighting is neat and worth pursuing another time.

I hope your didn't break that just for the picture (unless of course it isn't really a family heirloom).

(Bridgecity I guess this will answer your question as well.)

Mongrel, I'm not sure how value of the object distinguishes whether or not I've composed, lit, focused and shot a good picture but I'll certainly strive to improve. For the record, this bowl, while not really an heirloom is 1 of a 2 piece, irreplaceable sculpture, destroyed when a worker knocked it over. I've kept all the pieces in hopes of finding a restoration house that might repair it. I recreated the "scene of the crime" because I remembered how we felt when we discovered it. (No Bridge, no honest physics at play here, sorry). So I guess I failed at conveying the emotional shock and horror we felt.

joechiu · March 3, 2005

Angelo wrote:

(Bridgecity I guess this will answer your question as well.)

Mongrel, I'm not sure how value of the object distinguishes whether or not I've composed, lit, focused and shot a good picture but I'll certainly strive to improve. For the record, this bowl, while not really an heirloom is 1 of a 2 piece, irreplaceable sculpture, destroyed when a worker knocked it over. I've kept all the pieces in hopes of finding a restoration house that might repair it. I recreated the "scene of the crime" because I remembered how we felt when we discovered it. (No Bridge, no honest physics at play here, sorry). So I guess I failed at conveying the emotional shock and horror we felt.

Ouch. Does the side that shattered have all the important details?

If you take a big block of clay as a work desk, you might be able to puzzle the pieces into the right order and then slowly glue them back together. I'd use a relatively slow setting glue during that process...

I have to agree that I didn't see "emotion" from the picture, but I definitely felt a cringe when I saw the pieces!

cletus · March 3, 2005

Angelo,

#2 is my pick of the bunch. It is a good, interesting picture.

At least to me the pictures do convey a sense of sadness... I see the broken pottery and I see a pretty, fragile object that has been destroyed.

After reading you're last post I get the impression that this is not the emotion you were trying to convey. If you wanted to convey the "emotional shock and horror we felt" I think you should have approached the picture differently -

When we look at the image, we see the broken object. It's the main subject and it dominates the entire frame. We, as viewers, have no sense of discovery or shock as you did when you found the broken pot. Maybe by stepping back and shooting a wider view you could place the pot in it's surroundings. With careful compostion you could create an image that would grab the viewer's eye and lead to to the pot. The pot would still be the subject of the picture, but the viewer would have to "discover" it. Make any sense

Angelo · March 3, 2005

cletus wrote:

Angelo,

#2 is my pick of the bunch. It is a good, interesting picture.

At least to me the pictures do convey a sense of sadness... I see the broken pottery and I see a pretty, fragile object that has been destroyed.

After reading you're last post I get the impression that this is not the emotion you were trying to convey. If you wanted to convey the "emotional shock and horror we felt" I think you should have approached the picture differently -

When we look at the image, we see the broken object. It's the main subject and it dominates the entire frame. We, as viewers, have no sense of discovery or shock as you did when you found the broken pot. Maybe by stepping back and shooting a wider view you could place the pot in it's surroundings. With careful compostion you could create an image that would grab the viewer's eye and lead to to the pot. The pot would still be the subject of the picture, but the viewer would have to "discover" it. Make any sense

Cletus; you make 2 very good points. 1) you did feel something upon viewing. I'm glad about that and 2) your idea for a wider shot and "discovery" are brilliant. I will try that. Thank you.

Angelo · March 3, 2005

joechiu wrote:

Ouch. Does the side that shattered have all the important details?
If you take a big block of clay as a work desk, you might be able to puzzle the pieces into the right order and then slowly glue them back together. I'd use a relatively slow setting glue during that process...

I have to agree that I didn't see "emotion" from the picture, but I definitely felt a cringe when I saw the pieces!

mmmmmm not sure I would trust myself to this. thanks for the advice but I think I'd rather trust this repair to a pro.

oh, and your "cringe" is what I was hoping for. Thanks.

mslammers · March 3, 2005

#3 for Me

Angelo wrote:

Oops!

Please comment. Can you be this bruttal?

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The third one kind of gets in your face. Usually you feel up close to something you broke. It definitly evokes emotion in me, but of course I entered the Calm Winter Scene that provoked the ??? about what was the Emotion challenge about anyhow.

DoctorIt · March 3, 2005

Angelo wrote:

(Bridgecity I guess this will answer your question as well.)

Mongrel, I'm not sure how value of the object distinguishes whether or not I've composed, lit, focused and shot a good picture but I'll certainly strive to improve. For the record, this bowl, while not really an heirloom is 1 of a 2 piece, irreplaceable sculpture, destroyed when a worker knocked it over. I've kept all the pieces in hopes of finding a restoration house that might repair it. I recreated the "scene of the crime" because I remembered how we felt when we discovered it. (No Bridge, no honest physics at play here, sorry). So I guess I failed at conveying the emotional shock and horror we felt.

I knew it, your trajectories were all wrong. You would have had to drop the vase in a highly viscous oil to see low Reynolds number dispersion effects like that... Totally staged. hmmph.

:hide

Angelo · March 3, 2005

DoctorIt wrote:

I knew it, your trajectories were all wrong. You would have had to drop the vase in a highly viscous oil to see low Reynolds number dispersion effects like that... Totally staged. hmmph.

Khaos · March 3, 2005

Shakey wrote:

Dude my dad has a wicked set of tools. I can fix it!:D

Tim

Your Dad must be a TV repair man.

I believe it was an "ultimate" set of tools though.

digital faerie · March 3, 2005

Angelo wrote:

Oops!

Please comment. Can you be this bruttal?

I like this one best....mostly because of the angle. to me it speaks of anger or frustration, and this viewpoint speaks of reaching "an alltime low" so to speak! Although I'm kinda curious...how well can we fit this challenge without the human element somewhere in frame? I'm curious on everyone's thoughts here. it'd be interesting to see this shot framed with 2 pairs of feet, male shoes and female shoes, to sort of elude to a fight....maybe?

Angelo · March 3, 2005

digital faerie wrote:

I like this one best....mostly because of the angle. to me it speaks of anger or frustration, and this viewpoint speaks of reaching "an alltime low" so to speak! Although I'm kinda curious...how well can we fit this challenge without the human element somewhere in frame? I'm curious on everyone's thoughts here. it'd be interesting to see this shot framed with 2 pairs of feet, male shoes and female shoes, to sort of elude to a fight....maybe?

That's an interesting idea thanks. I'm considering all the possibilities. I shouldn't reveal this but I will.... I'm thinking of restaging #2 with the shadow of a cat just off frame or a cat's tail exiting the frame.
Thanks for commenting DF.

digital faerie · March 3, 2005

Angelo wrote:

That's an interesting idea thanks. I'm considering all the possibilities. I shouldn't reveal this but I will.... I'm thinking of restaging #2 with the shadow of a cat just off frame or a cat's tail exiting the frame.
Thanks for commenting DF.

no problem! can't wait to see your reshoot!

digismile · March 5, 2005

Angelo,

I'm not sure if I have much more to add. However, if you hadn't put a title, I probably wouldn't have known that this was a post on emotion.

For me, I saw creative angles, interesting lighting, etc., but the photos didn't evoke a hint of emotion in me. In this case, I think the emotion would be in the person that either broke/or found the broken item.

Peace to you Angelo.

Brad

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