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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 5, 2007
    Nik, when I do that (sorry to ask in this thread, btw) and save as srgb the images look the same online as they did with aRGB. am I doing something wrong?
    Hmm.. That's strange.. Are you're sure you're overriding the profile?
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited November 5, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    Hmm.. That's strange.. Are you're sure you're overriding the profile?

    How can I make sure? I must be doing something wrong :/
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 5, 2007
    How can I make sure? I must be doing something wrong :/
    By opening the file after saving and verifying it's sRGB?
    Also, I hope you're operating with jpegs and the is absolutely no other conversion involved prior to uploading?
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited November 5, 2007
    Nikolai wrote:
    By opening the file after saving and verifying it's sRGB?
    Also, I hope you're operating with jpegs and the is absolutely no other conversion involved prior to uploading?


    Yeah, I convert to jpeg prior to uploading and don't mess with them after I convert. Could you take a quick min to show me the steps of what you would do, just to make sure I'm doing it correctly?


    Thanks for your help!

    Izzy
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    NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 5, 2007
    Yeah, I convert to jpeg prior to uploading and don't mess with them after I convert. Could you take a quick min to show me the steps of what you would do, just to make sure I'm doing it correctly?


    Thanks for your help!

    Izzy

    Izzy, all my workflow is sRGB, so I usually don't take those steps ne_nau.gif

    However, for all I know, it should be just what I said...
    The thing is, PS can be tricky with overriding profiles. Check your preferences.
    The steps are: convert, save the file, close all the files in PS, make sure it doesn't automatically convert to aRGB on opening and open the saved file to see if it stays sRGB.

    If this doesn't help, you may need to talk to somebody who's doing this on a regular basis ne_nau.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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    studio girlstudio girl Registered Users Posts: 27 Big grins
    edited November 20, 2007
    Just wondering... anyone ?
    Any shoots done from a cruise ship @ night? If so could you post them please.
    Canon EOS 40D / EF 28-135 ; EFS 18-55 Lens /Canon Speedlite 580EX .
    http://studiogirl.smugmug .com/:thumb
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    noeltykaynoeltykay Registered Users Posts: 109 Major grins
    edited November 23, 2007
    Just stumbled across this thread...I love shooting at night. Have not had a chance to do so in a while. But here are some of my personal faves:

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    JovesJoves Registered Users Posts: 200 Major grins
    edited November 25, 2007
    Scoot what are you shooting with and, what is it about the photos that isnt turning out? Are they too dark or, are the color contrasts coming out bad. If it is the color contrast then the White Balance is off. I find that the preset Incandesent works well on my Nikons. Too dark you arent exposing long enough, too bright then too long. The great thing about Dslrs is instant review and, being able to try somethingelse to get it right. I like to shoot in ISO800 myself. You also need a tripod for those shots.
    I shoot therefore Iam.
    http://joves.smugmug.com/
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    PindyPindy Registered Users Posts: 1,089 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
    Noeltykay, you've just helped get me out of my I-have-nothing-to-shoot-in-LA rut. Thanks for the inspiration.
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    PindyPindy Registered Users Posts: 1,089 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
    How could I have done this better? It's tough to gauge, by histogram only, metering for bright lights like these. It would be great to no have to use so much highlight recovery.

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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
    Try having your lens focused at its hyperfocal distance at a larger aperture
    (say, 2.8) and use a faster shutter speed. this will catch all of the lights and avoid them blowing out . . . sometimes. You can then just crop out what's not in focus right in front of the lens. The picture looks great, though thumb.gif , and it looks like your exposure wasn't that long. headscratch.gif

    Or, take one picture exposed for the ground and buildings and another for the sky, then merge them in PS

    see if that works and let me know! I've found that there are some lights or some corners that are lit so brightly that it would be impossible to meter for them without losing a ton of detail in the shadows.
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
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    Make: Canon
    Model: Canon EOS 30D
    Shutter Speed: 6/1 second
    F Number: F/8.0
    Focal Length: 17 mm
    ISO Speed: 100
    Date Picture Taken: Nov 11, 2007, 12:42:31 AM
    Artist's Comments
    Panorama of St. Paul, MN. Hope you like it!


    Tell me what you think. it looks like the pictures I put together for the pano were too far apart, making it look fisheyeish
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
    two more for the archives :D Please let me know how any of these shots could be bettered. I love shooting at night, by the way

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    GiphsubGiphsub Registered Users Posts: 2,662 Major grins
    edited November 27, 2007
    thumb.gif Love that second shot Izzy! Very menacing!
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    ElaineElaine Registered Users Posts: 3,532 Major grins
    edited November 28, 2007
    I have thoroughly enjoyed viewing all of these beautiful night shots! clap.gif Here are a couple of mine...

    taken just a couple days ago...
    ISO 800, f/4, 1/30 handheld at 28mm
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    taken last Christmas season...
    ISO 3200, f/5.6, 1/8 handheld at 50mm
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    Elaine

    Comments and constructive critique always welcome!

    Elaine Heasley Photography
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    Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 28, 2007
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    EXIF - This photo is the merge of 2 layers.
    One for the tree and another one for the lights.
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
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    noeltykaynoeltykay Registered Users Posts: 109 Major grins
    edited December 3, 2007
    Pindy wrote:
    Noeltykay, you've just helped get me out of my I-have-nothing-to-shoot-in-LA rut. Thanks for the inspiration.

    You have everything to shoot in LA!!!! Lots of great subject after dark!!!!
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    gary2232gary2232 Registered Users Posts: 2 Beginner grinner
    edited December 4, 2007
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    wxwax wrote:
    BTW, I think one of the tricks to shooting at night... is to not shoot at night!

    Soon after the sun dips below the horizon the sky turns a gorgeous shade of blue for a few moments. It can make for some lovely night shots that are, in fact, shot at dusk. Next time you see a "night" cityscape, look for color in the sky. It's a giveway!


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    I know this is a old post but this photo is great. Can you please post your settings for this shot? The white balance is very important to me. I hope you did not shoot this in raw. Also was there any post prosessing. I would like to be able to shoot this type of photo to hang on my wall. Any advice would be great.
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    Ken J. GoodKen J. Good Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited December 6, 2007
    First post. Been "lurking".

    First and foremost, some of these night images are absolutely stunning. Wow!

    I have so, so, so far to go! Based on this thread, I have a lot of good things to play and practice with. Thanx all for posting.

    Background: I've been involved in the tactical end of things for quite some time, and much of that has not been capturing light, but emitting light with higher-end illumination tools and lasers in the military and law enforcement realm.

    Now I own a company that sells small HID searchlights. The difficulty is "showing" people exactly how powerful these things are. So I decided to jump and attempt to learn how to do that through photography....

    I know, I don't know what I don't know.....So I stated small so to speak and purchased a Nikon D40X with a couple of lenses.

    Started reading a little, going out at night and taking pictures.....Of course fell flat on my face at first. But now I am crawling very, very slowly.

    I ran into a phenomenon that I am hoping someone here can assist me with.

    I took an image of a darkend football field with the following settings:
    f/5.6 5.0s ISO400 0EV
    I do this so that there is a relative difference comparison image.

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    5 seconds later using the exact same settings, I take an image of the same scene, but with one of our lights on.
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    Question: Why does the background mountains show up in the second image when I have not changed any of the manual settings?

    It seems the sensor is reacting differently based on the large volume of light coming almost directly at the camera. It is the metering I used (Spot) or something else?

    Other images not related to my question:

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    PortlandBuilding1.jpg
    PortlandBuilding2.jpg

    See also:
    http://polarion-usa.com/images/Football-Field-PH40120507-7.jpg
    http://polarion-usa.com/images/Football-Field-PH40120507-8.jpg

    Any and all comments/tips appreciated!

    Respectfully,

    Ken J. Good
    http://polarion-usa.com
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    tonichelletonichelle Registered Users Posts: 144 Major grins
    edited December 8, 2007
    pathfinder wrote:
    f4.5, 1/15th sec handheld, ISO 800
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    OMG is that the Osbourne light show at Disney Studios - Walt Disney World???????
    "It's only an island if you look at it from the water."
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,699 moderator
    edited December 10, 2007
    Yup, Disney World.

    December 2005.
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

    Moderator of the Technique Forum and Finishing School on Dgrin
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited December 11, 2007
    One more. Any thoughts appreciated!

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    darkdragondarkdragon Registered Users Posts: 1,051 Major grins
    edited December 13, 2007
    moving objects @ night? WOW - I would definitely love to see that one :D


    I just started shooting night shots myself. Still trying to learn what settings are best, etc. Here's my favorite shot so far though. This was a moving shot. I don't think the EXIF data got included when I uploaded it though. Definately not a perfect shot, but I like it and learned a lot while I was shooting.

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    Canon 40D, 50mm f/1.4, 1600 ISO, Tv 1250 (i think)
    ~ Lisa
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    Izzy GaravitoIzzy Garavito Registered Users Posts: 228 Major grins
    edited January 2, 2008
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    It was a wonderful night outside: 0 deg. F, steam rising from the mississippi, and a clear sky (might have been nice to have some clouds, but meh).

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    PANO: 4 Shots, cropped

    Make: Canon
    Model: Canon EOS 40D
    Shutter Speed: 25/1 second
    F Number: F/11.0
    Focal Length: 17 mm
    ISO Speed: 200
    Date Picture Taken: Jan 1, 2008, 11:33:11 PM

    Izzy
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