Wide angle and fast

BBones

Ok, shot at the club last night with my new 20D and the 50 f/1.8 (broke after a wedding and a honeymoon so I had to stay cheap). The ISO and speed of the camera still amazes me...but 50 is not wide enough.

Sooooo, since I am still low in the cash department, what do you recommend for a comparable lens to the 50 f/1.8? I need it to be fast (1.4/1.8/2.8) since people are dancing and it is dark in there.

Samples from last night:
http://studio819.smugmug.com/gallery/420245

Shay Stephens

I like the 16-35mm f/2.8 and have my eyes on the 24mm f/1.4

If you really need cheap, just keep using the 50mm f/1.8 and move farther away. Don't waste your money on a cheap wide angle, they don't make em like the 50mm f/1.8 plastic fantastic. It's one of a kind.

BBones wrote:

Ok, shot at the club last night with my new 20D and the 50 f/1.8 (broke after a wedding and a honeymoon so I had to stay cheap). The ISO and speed of the camera still amazes me...but 50 is not wide enough.

Sooooo, since I am still low in the cash department, what do you recommend for a comparable lens to the 50 f/1.8? I need it to be fast (1.4/1.8/2.8) since people are dancing and it is dark in there.

Samples from last night:
http://studio819.smugmug.com/gallery/420245

BBones

Yeah, having my eye on that lens is all I will be for a while. Wow

Shay Stephens wrote:

I like the 16-35mm f/2.8 and have my eyes on the 24mm f/1.4

If you really need cheap, just keep using the 50mm f/1.8 and move farther away. Don't waste your money on a cheap wide angle, they don't make em like the 50mm f/1.8 plastic fantastic. It's one of a kind.

BBones

While on the subject of club pictures though, I forgot how to get those streaking lights in a picture while keeping the person in focus. How do I do that?

Shay Stephens

Drag the shutter, but use flash to freeze the action. You can't do it with just ambient light.

BBones wrote:

While on the subject of club pictures though, I forgot how to get those streaking lights in a picture while keeping the person in focus. How do I do that?

BBones

hopefully the internal flash will suffice for now then, no way I can buy an external.


Shooting low light/high ISO now though, won't that "burn" the subject?

Shay Stephens

hehehe, only if you let it

Try dialing in some negative flash compensation, or if using a flash with manual controls, just turn it down in intensity.

BBones wrote:

hopefully the internal flash will suffice for now then, no way I can buy an external.


Shooting low light/high ISO now though, won't that "burn" the subject?

BBones

WHEEEEEE!!!!!

I love learning new stuff on the fly. I'll try to give it a try tonight with the onboard flash but I will likely go back to using just the same settings I used for last night.

dawson

BBones wrote:

WHEEEEEE!!!!!

I love learning new stuff on the fly. I'll try to give it a try tonight with the onboard flash but I will likely go back to using just the same settings I used for last night.

Please post your results! I'm interested in seeing them. I believe your shots from last night turned out pretty nice.

BBones

Ah, so you are the one pounding that link

DoctorIt

Shay Stephens wrote:

hehehe, only if you let it

Try dialing in some negative flash compensation, or if using a flash with manual controls, just turn it down in intensity.

Yup, I was just gonna say, the onboard flashes of the 10D and 20D have the saving grace of having compensation. I was amazed at how much better my shots were with just a little bit of flash. 10D -2 FE comp worked nicely. Give it a try, you have no idea how good you have it till you compare with a Drebel!

BBones

I will have to reset that each time I set up a shot won't I?

DoctorIt wrote:

Yup, I was just gonna say, the onboard flashes of the 10D and 20D have the saving grace of having compensation. I was amazed at how much better my shots were with just a little bit of flash. 10D -2 FE comp worked nicely. Give it a try, you have no idea how good you have it till you compare with a Drebel!

DoctorIt

BBones wrote:

I will have to reset that each time I set up a shot won't I?

Nope, stays put where you set it. At least on my 10D it does. I think even turning it off doesn't affect it.

canonguy

Great shots! How do you shoot with an ISO of 1600 or 3200 and not get crazy noise?

DoctorIt

canonguy wrote:

Great shots! How do you shoot with an ISO of 1600 or 3200 and not get crazy noise?

Canon 20D

BBones

DoctorIt wrote:

Nope, stays put where you set it. At least on my 10D it does. I think even turning it off doesn't affect it.

Yup, just went into our network cable room with all the lights off and had it set for -2, ISO 1600 and 3200, 1/30, 1.8 and it didn't burn anything.


Betting though I will need to settle it down just a little bit there tonight though, there are some dance floor lights that it will see. Maybe 1/50th or ISO 1600 only.....*shrug* buncha playing ahead of me now.

Thanks guys.

Bert

BBones wrote:

Ok, shot at the club last night with my new 20D and the 50 f/1.8 (broke after a wedding and a honeymoon so I had to stay cheap). The ISO and speed of the camera still amazes me...but 50 is not wide enough.

Sooooo, since I am still low in the cash department, what do you recommend for a comparable lens to the 50 f/1.8? I need it to be fast (1.4/1.8/2.8) since people are dancing and it is dark in there.

Samples from last night:
http://studio819.smugmug.com/gallery/420245

I've got the 24mm F1.4 I originally used with my EOS3. What a wonderful lens, that I'm now using as my standard lens (38mm) for my 20D. Highly recommended.

wxwax

The 35 f1.4 is prolly outta yer price range right now, but is an excellent lens for your needs. I suspect the 16-35 f2.8 might be too slow.

BBones

Well, the 2nd part of this thread (about the club lighting to make the lights get streaky) didn't work last night. I tried alot of different things but just ended up with worse shots then I did the night prior:

http://studio819.smugmug.com/gallery/421397