Confused about Drive Jumper Settings

David_S85

I'm finally moving an old Quantum HD out of its old home and into an external drive enclosure to harvest some of the old data from it. There is an option for "Cable select for master/slave" in the jumper settings.

:Master :Slave :Cable Select for Master/Slave

As I just want to read the data and not boot the drive, I know that Master must be disabled, but I'm not familiar with what "cable select..." does. Should I just park it now as slave or use the cable select setting? :dunno

Thanks!

jay

David_S85 wrote:

I'm finally moving an old Quantum HD out of its old home and into an external drive enclosure to harvest some of the old data from it. There is an option for "Cable select for master/slave" in the jumper settings.

As I just want to read the data and not boot the drive, I know that Master must be disabled, but I'm not familiar with what "cable select..." does. Should I just park it now as slave or use the cable select setting?

Thanks!

mac or windows?

David_S85

jay wrote:

mac or windows?

Windows. The old 10GB drive is from my Win95 machine (time for Andy to step in to rib me on this again ) with the data being copied over to my not-as-old XP Pro system.

ChrisJ

Hi David,

Cable Select is used on internal IDE cables only (usually in big box systems like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc). Depending on which plug you use on the cable determines whether it's a master or slave. The cable is usually color coded.

Anyway, back to the point... If you're moving it into an external enclosure, you probably want to use either Master or Slave and NOT CS... I would try Master first.

David_S85

ChrisJ wrote:

Hi David,

Cable Select is used on internal IDE cables only (usually in big box systems like Dell, HP, Gateway, etc). Depending on which plug you use on the cable determines whether it's a master or slave. The cable is usually color coded.

Anyway, back to the point... If you're moving it into an external enclosure, you probably want to use either Master or Slave and NOT CS... I would try Master first.

Hmmmm. I would have guessed slave. I don't want it to boot — only to act as another data drive on the system.

gluwater

Yep, set it to Master.

David_S85

gluwater wrote:

Yep, set it to Master.

K. Back in a bit with results....

David_S85

Shizam!

We're working!

Only thing is when I plugged the USB into the XP machine, I got an autoplay message and it started to do funny things (like try to boot Win95 onto my XP machine). I think I might try SLAVE next time. ???

I also forgot how noisy the drive was. We're humming right along though.

It transfers files bloody quickly, albeit at 480Mbps. My old MP3's are saved!!! (oh, and photos too).

Wheeee! :ivar

gluwater

My external did the same thing when I had a drive in it that had an OS loaded. I'm not sure how to get around it. If you find out let us know. I think it's about time to upgrade David. Win95 :nah

David_S85

gluwater wrote:

My external did the same thing when I had a drive in it that had an OS loaded. I'm not sure how to get around it. If you find out let us know. I think it's about time to upgrade David. Win95 :nah

You do recall I finally went XP Pro in 2004, right? SP2 even Can Leopard be far behind?

Listening to my old Spinal Tap tunes! Best $19.95 I have spent in a long time.

scwalter

David_S85 wrote:

Shizam!

We're working! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/clap.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

Only thing is when I plugged the USB into the XP machine, I got an autoplay message and it started to do funny things (like try to boot Win95 onto my XP machine). I think I might try SLAVE next time. ???

I also forgot how noisy the drive was. We're humming right along though.

It transfers files bloody quickly, albeit at 480Mbps. My old MP3's are saved!!! (oh, and photos too).

Wheeee! :ivar

I think if you hold down <SHIFT> when inserting a USB device, it will disable autoplay.

-Scott

Art Scott

On my XP system auto play comes on no matter what I plug in.....ie a usb drive or a CF card into the reader.....on mine there is the little box with an "X" to close it in the right upper corner....clik it and it goes away......or it does for me........but everytime something new is plugged or re-plugged in it pops up.......no big deal tho..........haven't tried what was suggested above tho.......

on the note of the jumpers: my self made externals are set to slave or cable select......cable select (for me) just means my "C" drive is plugged into the end connector and the secondary drive is plugged into the connector towards the middle of the cable....as I said that is on my old HP Vectra 600.................

cmason

Autoplay will run if Windows discovers a new drive, so if you plug this into a running Windows, it will autoplay. However, if the drive is running before Windows, it won't autoplay..so just have it turn on before you start Windows, and no autoplay...I just leave mine running all the time. I suppose this may impact its life, but oh well too lazy to stoop down and shut it off.

You can also turn off Autoplay for the drive itself. Now I believe that you should define a specified drive letter for this hard drive first, but not sure. (see below) To turn off autoplay for the drive, go to My Computer> right click the drive and choose Properties. On the Autoplay tab, Choose 'Mixed content', then 'Take No action' in the box below. This way, you won't get the annoying pop-up asking you want to do.

To assign a drive letter that 'sticks'...rt click on My Computer, choose 'Manage'. Then under Storage, choose Disk Management. Select the drive in question, rt click and choose "Change Drive Letter and Paths". Click Change, and choose your drive letter. Now whenever the drive starts, it will always be that drive letter.

Pupator

Just so that there's a clear answer on this:

The answer is slave.

ChrisJ

Actually, most (but not all) of the pages I've found all say to set the jumper to Master. My hunch is that it really depends on how the external enclosure is wired.

cmason

For my USB IDE enclosure, I have the drive set to Slave. But the setting has nothing to do with USB anyway, so doesnt matter. The setting is specific to IDE drives. Technically, there should be only ONE Master on a drive controller, because drives are chained off the controller. Since USB doesnt work like this, the master and slave don't apply, since they are settings for the IDE controller. SATA drives do not function this way either, so there is no master/slave setting on a SATA drive.

Now, your USB enclosure is mimicing an IDE controller for the benefit of the drive, therefore you should refer to the instructions that came with the enclosure, not random info here or on the web.

i_worship_the_King

haha, a question for me!

You'll want it set to master. The USB enclosure is (as said above) mimicks your IDE controller. If it's a nice enclosure they'll recognise Master/Slave/CS. The cheapie's you'll want the Master.

To disable auto-play you'll want to do the following:

1) plug in the drive
2) open up My Computer
3) right click on the drive -> properties
4) 2nd tab "Auto play"
5) pick "Select an action to perform" radio button
6) "Take no action"

You'll also want to go to power options and tell it to "turn off hard disks" after like 10 minutes. This will (on a good enclosure) stop the drive and DRASTICALLY extend it's life. Study I read a few months ago showed that the life of a drive is dependent on up-time, not cumulative access time. Shutting it off is the only way to really extend drive life.

Happy Grinning!

David_S85

All good information from everyone. Thanks!

No matter what, the drive wants to auto-run as a music player in XP pro. I just click stop and then tell it to take no action. It is not a good drive enclosure - at $19.95. But it seems to work.

cmason

David_S85 wrote:

All good information from everyone. Thanks!

No matter what, the drive wants to auto-run as a music player in XP pro. I just click stop and then tell it to take no action. It is not a good drive enclosure - at $19.95. But it seems to work.

David try following my directions above, and choose 'photos' instead of "mixed content" see if that helps...not sure if it will

Andy

David_S85 wrote:

(time for Andy to step in to rib me on this again

I'm just glad you got off of Windows 3.1

David_S85

Andy wrote:

I'm just glad you got off of Windows 3.1 <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/lol3.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

To Andy only - nobody else read please...

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Might horrify you, but once the piccies and other goodies get transferred off the drive to newer computer, the old HD goes right back into the old box and lives on forever as a working Win95 machine. That beast will never die.
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