Remove smugmug "Hotlink"

BodleyBodley Registered Users Posts: 766 Major grins
edited March 7, 2005 in SmugMug Support
Needless to say - I just started really don't know what I'm doing (here's my link www.bodley.smugmug.com). What I'm wanting to do is remove the clickable Smugmug link in the "powered by smugmug" statement at the bottom of the page. Don't want people accidently going to the smugmug page and seeing what I pay for photo's and expect me to sell them at that rate.
Greg
"Tis better keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    You need to have Pro account
    Bodley wrote:
    Needless to say - I just started really don't know what I'm doing (here's my link www.bodley.smugmug.com). What I'm wanting to do is remove the clickable Smugmug link in the "powered by smugmug" statement at the bottom of the page. Don't want people accidently going to the smugmug page and seeing what I pay for photo's and expect me to sell them at that rate.
    And if you already do, simply go to the co-branding section and change the header/footer info to your liking. There is also a few threads with co-branding samples here at dgrin.

    HTH

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • BodleyBodley Registered Users Posts: 766 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    Nikolai,

    I do have a pro account and have already changed the footer but the "powered by smugmug(clickable)" still shows.

    Also checked out several other sites, including yours, and this line appears on all of them.
    Greg
    "Tis better keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    Oh, you mean the VERY bottom one?
    Bodley wrote:
    Nikolai,
    I do have a pro account and have already changed the footer but the "powered by smugmug(clickable)" still shows.
    Also checked out several other sites, including yours, and this line appears on all of them.
    I didn't not research that part it as far as it does not bother me.
    In fact I like promoting smugmug, it brings 1) referrals and 2) my very own customers:-)

    If you search dgrin for "cobranding" (or "co-branding"), you'll find a whole bunch of tips. E.g. this site: http://www.emphoto.com/ does not show any smugmugness whatsover...

    Try to put </body></html> in the end of your footer (WARNING: as many of other HTML tricks it may screw things up!)

    HTH

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • BodleyBodley Registered Users Posts: 766 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    Nikolai wrote:
    I didn't not research that part it as far as it does not bother me.
    In fact I like promoting smugmug, it brings 1) referrals and 2) my very own customers:-)

    If you search dgrin for "cobranding" (or "co-branding"), you'll find a whole bunch of tips. E.g. this site: http://www.emphoto.com/ does not show any smugmugness whatsover...

    Try to put </body></html> in the end of your footer (WARNING: as many of other HTML tricks it may screw things up!)

    HTH

    Cheers!<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/1drink.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
    Please don't take this as trying to argue-the-point because I really appreciate your efforts to help me.

    I'm up for promoting smugmug but I believe anyone wanting to investigate could and would without the hot-link. Having "powered bt smugmug" without being able to click and going to smugmugs site would be fine.

    Also if you go to the photo page in http://www.emphoto.com/ it has the same hot-link "powered by smugmug"
    Greg
    "Tis better keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    Bodley wrote:
    Please don't take this as trying to argue-the-point because I really appreciate your efforts to help me.

    I'm up for promoting smugmug but I believe anyone wanting to investigate could and would without the hot-link. Having "powered bt smugmug" without being able to click and going to smugmugs site would be fine.

    Also if you go to the photo page in http://www.emphoto.com/ it has the same hot-link "powered by smugmug"

    bodley, it's part of the site and you cannot remove or change it. deal.gif
  • BodleyBodley Registered Users Posts: 766 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    andy wrote:
    bodley, it's part of the site and you cannot remove or change it. deal.gif
    Andy, thanks for setting me staight :D , now I will move on with improving my page. This has been alot of fun so farclap.gif wish I done it last year.
    Greg
    "Tis better keep your mouth shut and be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    Well, I guess it's not possible then..
    Also, I would not worry too much about ppl going through all the links. Even if they go to smumug and spend the time searching for the original pricing - so what? You spent your time and efforts taking the picture, postprocessing, uploading, paying for hosting - add this all up, and $1 margin on 4x6 will seem tiny and totally irrelevant.

    In any case - good luck with your site design!thumb.gif
    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Shay StephensShay Stephens Registered Users Posts: 3,165 Major grins
    edited March 5, 2005
    People are not buying the paper the photo is printed upon, they are buying the content that is on the paper. The print could cost you one penny and that would not have any effect on the price you charge the customer to have the print.

    Your pricing should reflect the value of the finished product, not the cost of the raw materials. This is not a commodity like rice we are talking about here, it's art.

    Bodley wrote:
    Don't want people accidently going to the smugmug page and seeing what I pay for photo's and expect me to sell them at that rate.
    Creator of Dgrin's "Last Photographer Standing" contest
    "Failure is feedback. And feedback is the breakfast of champions." - fortune cookie
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 6, 2005
    Bodley,

    Despite what others have said you can actually remove it. icon10.gif

    Check out http://introversion.smugmug.com

    To do this, add the following to the Cobranding stylesheet...

    .nav
    { display: none; }

    Cheers,

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    devbobo wrote:
    Bodley,

    Despite what others have said you can actually remove it. icon10.gif

    Check out http://introversion.smugmug.com

    To do this, add the following to the Cobranding stylesheet...
    .nav
    { display: none; }


    Cheers,

    David

    wow - i thought this was not - doable. thanks for correcting me, i was wrong.

    david, lovely site.
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    question
    andy wrote:
    wow - i thought this was not - doable. thanks for correcting me, i was wrong.

    david, lovely site.

    once you do this, the "logout" button is gone, how do you get logged out?
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    I thought I saw something like that
    devbobo wrote:
    Bodley,
    Despite what others have said you can actually remove it. icon10.gif
    Check out http://introversion.smugmug.com
    To do this, add the following to the Cobranding stylesheet...
    .nav
    { display: none; }

    Cheers,
    David
    Nice work, David! And it seems that my short term memory is well akin Lori's (from Finding Nemo:-)

    I wish JT had his part of help (the one he promised to do about all these stylesheets) completed by now.. All this lore, lying there, not used by anyone but a few pundits..

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 6, 2005
    andy wrote:
    once you do this, the "logout" button is gone, how do you get logged out?
    who needs to log out ? icon10.gif

    I could add a custom button, but it doesn't really bother me.
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    devbobo wrote:
    who needs to log out ? icon10.gif

    I could add a custom button, but it doesn't really bother me.

    if you want to view your site as a customer would see it, you would need to log out.

    so, how do i add the logout button, and only for me?
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    Well,
    devbobo wrote:
    who needs to log out ? icon10.gif

    I could add a custom button, but it doesn't really bother me.
    I'm afraid, the proper question would be - if I got logged out (e.g. erased cookie file), how would I get back logged in:-)

    I remember a funny fact: I was just started to learn Novell (network stuff), it was the very first practical session. I noticed a directory with a lot of what seems to be "da junk" and decided to delete it. Well, guess what - it turned out to be my "home" directory, so once I logged out - I could not log back in - not until the admin's helped.

    As always, you gotta be extra careful when playing with the matches:-)

    Cheers!
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    Nikolai wrote:
    I'm afraid, the proper question would be - if I got logged out (e.g. erased cookie file), how would I get back logged in:-)

    I remember a funny fact: I was just started to learn Novell (network stuff), it was the very first practical session. I noticed a directory with a lot of what seems to be "da junk" and decided to delete it. Well, guess what - it turned out to be my "home" directory, so once I logged out - I could not log back in - not until the admin's helped.

    As always, you gotta be extra careful when playing with the matches:-)

    Cheers!

    you can log in/out via the smugmug homepage (upper right), that's cool...
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 6, 2005
    Custom Button for Andy
    andy wrote:
    if you want to view your site as a customer would see it, you would need to log out.

    so, how do i add the logout button, and only for me?
    How about this ??

    >Click here if you're Andy<

    <a href="http://williams.smugmug.com/index.mg?logOut=1">Click here if you're Andy</a>

    icon10.gificon10.gificon10.gif

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2005
    devbobo wrote:
    How about this ??

    >Click here if you're Andy<

    <a href="http://williams.smugmug.com/index.mg?logOut=1">Click here if you're Andy</a>

    icon10.gificon10.gificon10.gif

    David

    kewl... but i'll just do it via the smug homepage, i'm logged in 98.44% of the time :D
  • GerryDavidGerryDavid Registered Users Posts: 439 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    andy wrote:
    if you want to view your site as a customer would see it, you would need to log out.

    so, how do i add the logout button, and only for me?
    You could use an alternative browser. For example you can log in and do stuff from firefox but browse it as a customer in mozilla. I do this on a few sites where I have multiple accounts, so I dont have to log in and out all day long.
  • onethumbonethumb Administrators Posts: 1,269 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    devbobo wrote:
    Bodley,

    Despite what others have said you can actually remove it. icon10.gif

    Check out http://introversion.smugmug.com

    To do this, add the following to the Cobranding stylesheet...

    .nav
    { display: none; }

    Cheers,

    David

    I'm terribly sorry to have to do this, and I really do feel bad, but I'm afraid I might have to write some software to block this sort of attempt. :(

    The fact of the matter is that a $100/year fee doesn't buy you a multi-million dollar piece of software. Our brand is important, and while we're happy to not shove it in your face, having each page at least be associated with ours is vitally important to our business.

    There's a reason we leave that footer in, and it's not because we couldn't have done this in software ourselves. :)

    I'm not 100% sure about this decision, so the discussion is on the table, but I'd have to hear something pretty compelling. Just to give you some idea, if we were to partner with Google or Amazon or Canon or something, it would be a requirement in any deal we did with them, as well, despite the fact that any of those partners would be a multi-million dollar account for us.

    *puts on his flame suit*

    Have at me! :beatwax

    Don
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    onethumb wrote:
    I'm terribly sorry to have to do this, and I really do feel bad, but I'm afraid I might have to write some software to block this sort of attempt. :(

    The fact of the matter is that a $100/year fee doesn't buy you a multi-million dollar piece of software. Our brand is important, and while we're happy to not shove it in your face, having each page at least be associated with ours is vitally important to our business.

    There's a reason we leave that footer in, and it's not because we couldn't have done this in software ourselves. :)

    I'm not 100% sure about this decision, so the discussion is on the table, but I'd have to hear something pretty compelling. Just to give you some idea, if we were to partner with Google or Amazon or Canon or something, it would be a requirement in any deal we did with them, as well, despite the fact that any of those partners would be a multi-million dollar account for us.

    *puts on his flame suit*

    Have at me! :beatwax

    Don

    totally understand, and in fact that' swhy i wrote my first answer to this question.... i just thought that last line was "locked."

    thumb.gif
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    I totally understand...
    And, as I mentioned before, I have zero problems with this.

    Less than zero - I like to flash your brand name:-)

    Sometimes it gets me in trouble with "proud thatotherservice supporters", but hey, it's almost like here in LA:-) "Westside!"ylsuper.gif
    More users for you - more potential users for meiloveyou.gif

    I wish I could get you guys canon, google, oprah or amazon deal:-)

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 7, 2005
    onethumb wrote:
    I'm terribly sorry to have to do this, and I really do feel bad, but I'm afraid I might have to write some software to block this sort of attempt. :(
    Hey Don,

    That's cool I totally understand, I actually thougt twice before I posted that as I had a feeling this may happen. To eliminate this threat, you need to remove any <class> or <id> references in the footer and apply the styles locally in the html elements.

    Sorry for the inconvenience.

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • devbobodevbobo Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 4,339 SmugMug Employee
    edited March 7, 2005
    Nikolai wrote:
    More users for you - more potential users for meiloveyou.gif
    Well, until my SmugBrowser hits the streets :D:D

    David
    David Parry
    SmugMug API Developer
    My Photos
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    I like *healthy* competition
    devbobo wrote:
    Well, until my SmugBrowser hits the streets :D:D
    David
    Keeps everyone on his toes:-)

    Cheers!1drink.gif

    PS
    "I'm not 50, I'm 18 with 32 years of extra experience"
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • savannahgasavannahga Registered Users Posts: 225 Major grins
    edited March 7, 2005
    I have no problem with the "Smugmug" link at the bottom of my page. I greatful for Smugmug to be able to sell my prints with ease & trust.

    Cheers,
    Jeff
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