Adobe Rant
Richard
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I am shopping for a new computer to replace my six year old laptop (Dell Latitude, Win2K). I am using CS2 and had vague thoughts of complementing it with Lightroom on a Mac. Turns out, Adobe will not let me move CS2 to a Mac unless I upgrade to CS3, which was not in my plan (or budget) at all.
They also told me that CS2 is incompatible with Vista, though they do support moving it to XP without charge. I was really surprised to hear that CS2 won't run on Vista. I would think that I would have heard a chorus of complaints about that, but I haven't. Are they just blowing marketing smoke? Actually, in the Windows world I would prefer XP at the moment, though it does limit the hardware choices. All the sexy 17" display models seem to have Vista pre-installed.
In the good ol' days, I really used to look forward to getting a new machine. It was a bit of a hassle, but in general application software could be transferred freely.
Arbitrary policies like Adobe's presumably are designed to increase revenue, but they create hostility among users as well. Had I been able to transfer CS2 to a Mac, I likely would have bought Lightroom. But now I am probably going to buy an XP machine from Lenovo and forget about Lightroom simply because I am pissed.
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They also told me that CS2 is incompatible with Vista, though they do support moving it to XP without charge. I was really surprised to hear that CS2 won't run on Vista. I would think that I would have heard a chorus of complaints about that, but I haven't. Are they just blowing marketing smoke? Actually, in the Windows world I would prefer XP at the moment, though it does limit the hardware choices. All the sexy 17" display models seem to have Vista pre-installed.
In the good ol' days, I really used to look forward to getting a new machine. It was a bit of a hassle, but in general application software could be transferred freely.
Arbitrary policies like Adobe's presumably are designed to increase revenue, but they create hostility among users as well. Had I been able to transfer CS2 to a Mac, I likely would have bought Lightroom. But now I am probably going to buy an XP machine from Lenovo and forget about Lightroom simply because I am pissed.
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"Incompatible" from a software vendor doesn't mean the same thing as "won't run." It can mean anything from "not tested" to "tested and some minor things don't work quite right" to "tested and big things don't work."
In any of those cases, they'd rather tell you that it won't work than have you come back and sue them because they said it would work but it didn't.
Oh, and yea they'd rather have you spend money on the new version too.
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Had to buy a new machine in a hurry with a small budget - ended up with an acer tower with Vista preinstalled. PSP XI is totally incompatible with Vista so(will not open) so had to buy XII.
Bought my son a dell laptop to do correspondance school on - Vista preinstalled ,and the correspondance coourse material incompatible. Found a work around, but apparently Dell will ship XP if you request.
I have moved to a Mac with PSCS3, and I am loving it. Lightroom is in my future, sometime before next soccer season.
Hmmm, what's my point? I had so many headaches with Vista (not all outlined here) and so far am thrilled with the apple and PS. So, might be worth taking a moment to evaluate where you want to be
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Hmmmmmmm CS2 works fine on VISTA wonder why they told you it didnt run on Vista <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/headscratch.gif" border="0" alt="" > .... Skippy
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Well, it seems that there are two possible explanations: either Adobe's customer support people don't know what they are talking about or they have been instructed to mislead customers in the hope of generating new upgrade revenue. Neither explanation gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the company. I should point out here that I was told that CS2 is "incompatible" with Vista, not that it was untested or unsupported.
I am not surprised that CS2 runs on Vista. Historically, Microsoft has been pretty good about maintaining backward application compatibility, though device drivers have been more of a problem. Probably the truth of the matter is that CS2 runs fine, but some things like printing or image capture don't work for certain printers or cameras because their drivers have not been updated yet. Which is an entirely different story than the one I was given.
I just loaded CS2 Master suite on my machine and it ran fine w/o a hitch.
I'm runing Vista Ultimate and CS3 but I downgraded to see if you would have any issues.
None on my machine at least.
If you do go w/ Vista and find compatibility issues, try this:
Right click your .exe file and go to properties, then the compatability tab. Then select the checkbox labeled "Run this program in compaiability mode for:" then select "Windows XP (service pack 2)"
I doubt if you have to do this. But it may save you some grief if youhave any issues.
While Vista has been a headache for allot of ppl. I've had a wonderful expercience w/ it. It looks like the machines overall performance is related to whether you like vista or not. If your not going for a fast machine, I'd go w/ XP. You can go to any major computer reseller or factory direct and request an XP load on your machine. THey don't make it easily accessable for many reasons. But it's still available. Maybe just not at retail locations.
Cheers,
-Jon
Thanks for the tips, Jon. I'm giving myself 24 hours for reflection before pulling the trigger, but I have pretty much settled on a ThinkPad T61 running XP. Won't be as much fun as a MacBook Pro running Leopard, but it should be good enough. I just think it's really sad that vendor irritation became a factor in my decision.
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